SneakyStephan
Banned
It's selling the skin of the bear before you catch it.
Or are you part of the 'killzone 2 looks as good as the target render' crowd too
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XBOX ONE Reveal: UI faked from the start. Very choppy, and CBoaT
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It's selling the skin of the bear before you catch it.
Or are you part of the 'killzone 2 looks as good as the target render' crowd too
BRocknRolla
Member
This is a much better gif than the original. Shows a clear comparison. I'm surprised MS would be down with them showing off the UI if it was such an early build.
chickdigger802
Banned
Hearts out to the OS team. Probably gonna be some serious crunch before launch.
Oh fuck, the day 1 patch is gonna suck lol.
Oh fuck, the day 1 patch is gonna suck lol.
Because the performance is largely at the behest of the DVR or TV tuner you're using, not just the Xbox One hardware itself.
rudieboy77
Member
A press demo is obviously going to not be real time. But... that was not laggy and really wasn't all that slow. Also if you noticed the cable being used was Directv, which gets buggy as hell in the rain, it doesn't rain in Seattle much does it? BTW what an awkward grin on the guy from MS at the end of the vid.
SloaneRisette
Member
This console really seems Xbotched.
Sandy Nipples
Banned
I need 8GB of GDDR5 just to load this fucking thread.
rain elbows
Member
Doesnt look anywhere near as polished as what they showed on stage.
Yeah, I don't necessarily trust sony's representation of their os either.
super-heated plasma
Member
Man, it truly is amazing how some posters completely ignore the logical posts of why the Ones OS is at its current state. The either truly expect it to be completely finished and running smooth as silk months before launch, and on an early build no less, or... their trolling. I'll assume the latter.
The whole Reiko and inside knowledge on hardware improvements debacle?
Portugeezer
Member
The current version is clearly unfinished.
It works and as it's been said in the video it's still early.The video is question, from Wired, shows the UI in real time, it is choppy and slow.
Credit to alr1ght for the gif.
Video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifa9Q7ATfVA
Is this supposed to be backslash?
CassidyIzABeast
Member
That was my thought. She even said its an early build and they are working to get it ready for launch. There will inevitably be growing pains, and it won't necessarily be buttery smooth, but the concept is there.
Well at least the in game share overlay worked. They actually did show things running on the machine.
It's really not fair to show definitive, inarguable evidence he's wrong, where can he go from there?
R3TRODYCE
Member
That can't be right Sir.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
I honestly expected the software to be 100% complete.
What with the hardware being out in 5 months and everything.
What with the hardware being out in 5 months and everything.
But you, unlike lostones, seem to know Sony actually showed a ton of their OS
Well maybe he meant that they didn't give an actual live demo of it like ms did :\ Not entirely sure what he meant though.
Edit: Or did they show the press a private demo? I'm actually not sure on that myself.
Angelus Errare
Banned
Xbox Choppy.
#xboned
Green screen of death is being used as the separator.
10101
Gold Member
Haha yeah I noticed that too! Made me chuckle.
Pretty choppy vid in the snapin there, but it will probably be polished before launch. They have time to work on the performance.
captscience
Member
That GIF is deceptive. When she says "go home" it goes to the Bing search screen off camera. The perceived delay is from her issuing another vocal command that's visually off camera.
I do. I actually expect it to become like that demo LATER. Much like how the 360 dash is now sluggish as hell.
Future PhaZe
Member
Eh normal functionality looked fine, the only thing that looked terrible in this new vid was the snap to frame rate and I don't really plan on fucking with that feature.
But yea, boo on this bullshit anyway. Just give me games. Ps4 looking better and better.
But yea, boo on this bullshit anyway. Just give me games. Ps4 looking better and better.
the junior graveyard.
The ol' hidden clicker trick. Gets people every time!
I suppose, although I'm not sure what that has to do with the performance of the UI?
Wolves Evolve
Member
Why does it fall to us? The stage show was faked and this video is terrible. How is it my responsibility as a consumer to wait to see how things pan out? They decide what to show.
I assume that we'll get what they showed during the conference at or around launch since they are still working on the interface. I'm fine with that.
What I'm not fine with is passing off the UI as being at the level they showed at the conference without saying something about how the final build will have this level of snappiness. They passed the whole thing off as working and running on the box, but it was all just per-recorded video. It's not a matter of knowing that it wasn't happening live, it's that they passed it off as such to pretty much everyone.
What I'm not fine with is passing off the UI as being at the level they showed at the conference without saying something about how the final build will have this level of snappiness. They passed the whole thing off as working and running on the box, but it was all just per-recorded video. It's not a matter of knowing that it wasn't happening live, it's that they passed it off as such to pretty much everyone.
I definitely agree. If they were just selling the capabilities of the Xbox One, that's completely understandable if it was just a concept demonstration. Boasting performance is misleading.
This would matter if I claimed Microsoft did not show their OS. I know Microsoft showed their OS; it's simply that Sony did too. A lot of it. So nobody can possibly claim they didn't without just being, ya know, wrong.
shinra-bansho
Member
Oh, snap!
Sandy Nipples
Banned
Thin Sans Serif Fonts, Metro, DDR3 Ram, Camera Toy, VCR Box, Watercoolers, Dogs.
We are worse than the 80s right now, truly, this is Hell.
rudieboy77
Member
Ha, not quite that would be the Saturn announcement/release. That was was funny.
Because the UI has to wait, or be dependant on the correlating signal and information from the DVR/TV Tuner, at least with respect to the TV functions. If the Xbox One had it all built in, I could believe it, but because it's going to rely somewhat on third party hardware, I don't believe it will ever be as silky smooth as they pretended in the conference.
If the OS runs nice and smooth at release no one will remember except the next time something like this happens, in which case it'll be trumpeted as an example of how an OS months before launch =/= the final product. I suspect it looks worse than it would have because the TV integration is something they REALLY pushed, and the fact we're interconnected enough to have this stuff spread like wild fire, even relative to 10 years ago.
Of course if they DO screw this up at launch then, yeah, this will be another black mark.
It IS hard to top spontaneously launching a console at an unheard of price.
Opus Angelorum
Member
An early build of software looks unfinished? Shocking news.
It's just that fast! See that?
*queue fake applause*
Yeah. As much as I can't stand the Xbox One at the moment, even I know this isn't going to be the state it releases in.
I think the more legitimate thing to be up in arms over is them showing a 'faked' version (without informing everyone it was simply a proof of concept), which to me is no better than Sony showing Killzone CG and claiming it was realtime.