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TRUTHFACT: MS having eSRAM yield problems on Xbox One
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For truth is hidden where light cannot unveil it.
MS and Sony surely have good relationships with multiplat companies and I'm certain they are constantly talking back and forth about the other one's console. It's no surprise they both ended up pretty much similiar in terms of hardware. MS is just a mess these days (see: Windows 8, Windows Phone 8, Surface, ... )
tfur
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This should probably be the thread title...
Can Crusher
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Can't believe they didn't have a plan B considering they knew they were going to have terrible yields last year, and had no certainty they could resolve them in time.
They rather launch this mess now, just so this mess is really cheap to make two years from now.
They rather launch this mess now, just so this mess is really cheap to make two years from now.
Wishmaster92
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TRUTHFACT: The only good thing about the xbone reveal was the countdown music. Thatisall....
I agree. I don't think a delay will be detrimental to MS. The Xbox brand is still very much alive and well. A six-month delay with a launch in the Spring of 2014 won't be so bad. Sony launched a full year later than the 360 at a $100 premium and still managed to get to parity with the 360 in terms of lifetime sales. Delaying will ensure any manufacturing defects are minimized and developers can produce a decent lineup of games.
The high price will help to curb demand from casuals. As will the poor-availability that comes from low-yields.
Uno Venova
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Everybody was so hyped by that inception music.
That's the last time there was a somewhat positive vibe toward the xbone,
Crazy to think things snuck up on them after such a long generation. It really is a "wtf".
IHaveCandy
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This thread is on track to surpass the amount of posts in the Xbox conference thread in less than a day...
They could focus on the PS4 and down port. The xbox is the harder to port for afterall due to ESRAM management. It will likely be easier to program for the PS4's unified ram then modify it to work with the esram than doing the reverse.
Double flops can still mean much better fps, (even 60 fps games) vs 30 fps games. Does not take much to tweak things to look substantially better on the PS4. Look at what a few checkboxes can do on the PC.
soulassssns
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He has no source, he is the source.
maabus1999
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Well if the yields were bad last year, they would've had time to respin, unless the respin didn't go well. Without knowing their stages of manufacturing, it literally is impossible for us to understand the decisions that were made.
Other issue is TSMC is just having crappy yield problems again, and not much MSFT could've done since a FAB would've been tooled for their chip, and finding another FAB would be nigh impossible now.
It's not hard to read. Theres a few extra letters and first letters at the end of a couple words. All it says is the rumor is confirmed.
metalslimer
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I cant say that I wont enjoy watching ms struggle immensely. Sounds like ms was definitely planning on sticking with the 360 and kinect for a few more years and were caught off guard
fredrancour
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His track record is good and there have already been several posts explaining the drunkenness.
Altough games are what matters most, hardware is also very important in the sense that its gonna affect every (multiplatform) game I buy in the future for the next 5-7 years (my pc is not that good...to say the least). Ps 4 is just infinitely more appealing as of now, and I prefer to only have 1 console (already bought wii u). However, I might make an exception and buy a ps4 if money allows it.
That said, I am curious about the launch price of both the x1 and ps4.
Slightly more ontopic, I am quite baffled how microsoft was so badly caught off guard by the competition. I mean, they launched first with 360 nearly 8 (!) Years ago. And their precence on 360 has been dwindling since the last 2 years so I assumed they were working night and day on the successor already. Werent they continually researching future tech like everyone else onwards the launch of a new console? If you'd ask me 2 years ago I wouldve said microsoft was in a better position to launch a new console coming from the massively succesful 360 than sony, who were, certainly the first two years since the launch of the ps3, struggling.
Surprising how some things turn out, although this outcome as of now may have quite complex reasons.
That said, I am curious about the launch price of both the x1 and ps4.
Slightly more ontopic, I am quite baffled how microsoft was so badly caught off guard by the competition. I mean, they launched first with 360 nearly 8 (!) Years ago. And their precence on 360 has been dwindling since the last 2 years so I assumed they were working night and day on the successor already. Werent they continually researching future tech like everyone else onwards the launch of a new console? If you'd ask me 2 years ago I wouldve said microsoft was in a better position to launch a new console coming from the massively succesful 360 than sony, who were, certainly the first two years since the launch of the ps3, struggling.
Surprising how some things turn out, although this outcome as of now may have quite complex reasons.
Wickerbasket
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Read the OP, it's been updated. It even includes a translation.
RadarScope1
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Getting to some Deep Throat level shit here, lol.
Leadershitfailure FTL.
soulassssns
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Lol, trust worthy? Because that is one horrid post to read.
I've always been interested to see the REAL installed userbase figures. I know a few people that have bought as many as 3 x 360s due to hardware failure. As far as I can see the 360 is in a distant third place, and has been for a while. Aren't the stats something like a 1 in 3 failure rate or something..?
CBOAT needs no source.
And no translation either. It's done on purpose so he/his sources doesn't get fubar'd in a brief google for rumours by MS etc.
AstroZombie
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You really think the casual crowd is going to care that much about all this watch TV on your TV shit? To the point that they'd buy a graphically inferior yet for all we know similarly priced console? Oh and make no mistake, the graphically inferior reputation will make it to the casuals if its as bad as this thread makes it out to be.
He is the source
Anyone have links to said music? Shit was awesome.
Well, the 360 was the lead platform because the PS3 was hard to code for and came out a year later. This time around the PS4 could very well be the lead platform getting the best graphics while the Xboner could get a 720p/60fps version with less details and stuff. Toning down graphics is pretty easy as PC games usually support a wide array of configs too.
That's just common sense on my side though, we'll see how it turns out.
ethomaz
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How expensive is the 16x 4Gbps GDDR5? I guess the APU with yield issues cost more than RAM.
Lol, the multiple layers of trolling is nicely implemented. Well done.
metalslimer
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What? They still arent close
Wickerbasket
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Read the OP.
AstroZombie
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No disrespect but read the OP.
Can Crusher
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Casuals don't buy 400$/E consoles at launch. Casuals aren't like "Oh look at that, the new Xbox. Sure I will fork over 470$ this month on this videogame console, why not?".
MS is playing around with their hardcore fan base like they had no care in the world, and that's simply because the people making decisions don't understand how a core fan base works at all. The ones who did got replaced, and now this is just another MS product.
Dems the breaks
MS is playing around with their hardcore fan base like they had no care in the world, and that's simply because the people making decisions don't understand how a core fan base works at all. The ones who did got replaced, and now this is just another MS product.
Dems the breaks
Kill Your Masters
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Leadershitfailure is probably the correct word to use in this case.
Miles Quaritch
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In terms of games it was great, in terms of everything else like Europe waiting months for games sometimes and a general disregard towards Europe as an important region is something I can't forget.
Not to mention what happened with the PS3 was a direct response to the overwhelming dominance they had with the PS2 and that's what I was really referring to. Any one company dominating leads to them becoming overly arrogant and taking their fanbase and the gamer in general for granted.
That's what I'd want to avoid because no-one realistically wants a return to those bad days leading up to the PS3 launch.
bigbaldwolf86
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I come back to the thread and see that CBOAT has posted and in doing so destroys any hope of MS actually not being further buried in the preverbial shite
Wow
Wow
BlazingDarkness
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He is legit.
RedNumberFive
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TRUTHFACT had become my new favorite word.
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