SatansReverence
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It was talked about as a "feature" which really doesn't bode well...
drugstore_cowboy
Member
If they haven't or cannot fix the offset I don't fancy our chances of open wheelers at all.
Stop papering over the fucking cracks and start again.
Stop papering over the fucking cracks and start again.
brotkasten
Member
Man, if FM5 doesn't have open wheelers, it's going to be hilarious. And a bloodbath. A hilarious bloodbath, if you like. Poor Helios.
Paladin CL
Member
For open wheelers? i dont think so, they are not that important, missing dirt, night or weather could be a worst fault.
Next thing you'll say is that you want oil changes that give your car more power... what a joke.
Oh man, the carwash comment made me giggle. Then you brought up oil change? I started laughing like crazy! Honestly I need a car wash feature!
SatansReverence
Hipster Princess
Fixed.
Pharaoh 117
Member
I'm already expecting the worst when it comes to all features that we want for ages. Been burned by their PR bs too many times.
May not be as important, but the Atom being in literally every other driving game of a similar ilk sure is a pretty obvious omission.
Yup. Personally, not only do they have to be as innovative this iteration than the last, but they need to sell me on the console as well. Honestly don't see them pulling it off, to be honest.
Heck, I see it coming down to the consumer thinking "Hmm... New Forza on new Xbox, or GT6 on a console I already own?". And I don't think they're going to win, at least as far as "sim" racers go.
SatansReverence
Hipster Princess
The biggest thing to stop me getting FM5 and the X1 is the X1. They would really need to do a full 180 and drop the anti consumer bullshit.
exactly
day night weather anything else is gravy and don't need every race iteration under the sun
Can someone please explain to me how a game engine can stop front and rear wheels from having different offsets? I just don't understand the logic at all.
Am I alone in absolutely, positively NOT wanting dirt/rally in the FM series? I'd rather have rally kept with the Horizon series so that FM can nail tarmac racing first. The game is already too diluted with all the non-racing guff IMO. Horizon can also have all the Top Gear gimmicks as well, they are a much better fit for that type of game.
Spaceman Spiff
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It baffles me as well. Given how long this has been a limitation, it might be tied with how the engine handles wheel and tire upgrades, but then it's not like plenty of other racing games don't allow for aftermarket rims while showing the correct stock offsets.
Perhaps a certain Forzacentral administrator could shed some light on this?
No, I agree, and for many of the same reasons. With limited development time and finite resources, I can't see what good it would do to shoehorn an inevitably compromised rally component in when there are plenty of dedicated rally games already out there.
brotkasten
Member
I was talking about the Atom or the X-Bow. And I'm sorry, but it would be simply pathetic if they couldn't get an open suspension model working. It's been 4 games now.
Yeah, open wheelers are a must, especially five games into the franchise. A guy in my village has an Atom and he's been buzzing around in it in all the recent sunshine. Damn, it's a sexy beast.
Five if you count Horizon (and you should... different dev but the same engine).
PS. That's the first I've ever heard of an X-Bow... holy hell, I want one NOW. It's like a kart on some mean HGH and whatever Lance Armstrong had.
If they did that, I don't think I'd hesitate in considering it if FM5 is as evolutionary as the last FM game. But man, it'd be almost impossible to make a game that would sell me on it the way it is. Seriously.
Echoing. Mainly because I don't think I've ever seen a new feature introduced into FM (not that there's that many I can think of anyway) that's been fully fleshed-out from the get-go. I just get the feeling that in theory T10 might have the right idea for a feature but they'd miss the mark by a small, yet significant margin. But they'll probably do it, though... I'm sure that's why we saw it in Horizon (as with any other feature we saw in it, such as day/night).
Next thing you'll say is that you want oil changes that give your car more power... what a joke.
lmao the Gif sold me. But I agree. Oil changes and car washes are retarded features.
brotkasten
Member
I know it's from that other game's sequel, but missing a supercharged go-kart like X-Bow or the Atom (which was in PGR4, btw) is a crime against all racing fans.
We need to keep in mind that this will be a launch game (or very close to launch anyway).
Launch games are notorious for being bad and light on the feature side. Heck, the EA sports games that launched on the 360 had less features than the previous year's edition.
I expect this problem to be far worse on games that are new (like Driveclub) than with Forza that already has a good base with FM4 but still.
Please, manage your expectations!
Launch games are notorious for being bad and light on the feature side. Heck, the EA sports games that launched on the 360 had less features than the previous year's edition.
I expect this problem to be far worse on games that are new (like Driveclub) than with Forza that already has a good base with FM4 but still.
Please, manage your expectations!
GT5 or 6? I mean, technically, all of them except the first were "that game's sequel"I know it's from that other game's sequel, but missing a supercharged go-kart like X-Bow or the Atom (which was in PGR4, btw) is a crime against all racing fans.
And yeah, I knew about the Atom in PGR4. I think I even mentioned it
One of the reasons why I think it was a mistake to launch the console with it. PGR would've been perfect, because it's always had basically the same goal without over-complicating things or adding too many features. All they would've needed is cars + locations + Kudos. Still beats the shit out of me why MS are choosing to launch with FM.
you know what a real crime against racing fans will be?
driving that xbow in gt6 with tearing and unstable framerate
Bollocks (Is that how you say it Mascot?)
I'm expecting:
Dynamic weather
Dynamic time
1001 cars including HDT, Holden,HSV,Ford,FPV and open wheelers
Spa, Bathurst, Brands Hatch, Dubai and Interlagos, Sydney Harbour Street Track
Revamped career
New audio
A plethora of new upgrades/tuning and customization options
A dynamometer
A garage
32 cars on track
Revamped damage model
Immersive experiences
Helicopters, confetti, balloons, camera crews, grid girls, track marshalls
Dedicated Drag Racing mode
Dedicated Drift mode
Radio chatter
Animated pit stops
New driver animations
Realistic tyre and drivetrain/line wear
Tyre blow outs, blown turbos, overheating engines
Overhauled AI
Automotive history mode
A new testing facility that tests everything including brakes, suspension, power..etc
Course maker
Car maker
Engine maker
Anything less equals no buy...or some shit like that.
I'm expecting:
Dynamic weather
Dynamic time
1001 cars including HDT, Holden,HSV,Ford,FPV and open wheelers
Spa, Bathurst, Brands Hatch, Dubai and Interlagos, Sydney Harbour Street Track
Revamped career
New audio
A plethora of new upgrades/tuning and customization options
A dynamometer
A garage
32 cars on track
Revamped damage model
Immersive experiences
Helicopters, confetti, balloons, camera crews, grid girls, track marshalls
Dedicated Drag Racing mode
Dedicated Drift mode
Radio chatter
Animated pit stops
New driver animations
Realistic tyre and drivetrain/line wear
Tyre blow outs, blown turbos, overheating engines
Overhauled AI
Automotive history mode
A new testing facility that tests everything including brakes, suspension, power..etc
Course maker
Car maker
Engine maker
Anything less equals no buy...or some shit like that.
eso76
Member
drugstore_cowboy
Member
Did a 30 lap race at old Le Mans yesterday in a D-Type (restricted the ai to 50s era cars too) and spent most of the race daydreaming how good this would be on X1 with day/night, dynamic weather and far larger grid.
Today that feeling of excitement has just melted away again, I'm losing faith in T10 and preparing myself for the worst.
Today that feeling of excitement has just melted away again, I'm losing faith in T10 and preparing myself for the worst.
It's okay, we'll still have PGR5 on 360!
Preparing myself for the best. Because it has to happen. It HAS to.
brotkasten
Member
I fixed that for you.
I would buy a whole new PC just to put Windows 8 on just to play that game*. Still be cheaper than a One and FM5
*Yes, I've heard of dual-booting before. That's not the point.
Weren't there pitstops in forza 4?
JorgePinto
Member
Animated. Right now the car just fixes itself. No pit crew or equipment at all.
Technically yea......But when did you ever need to pit?
True. I've had the game since launch and I pitted for the first time last week. That was only to see how it was.
ha sal if we get all this we wont need forza 6 anymore
Men's Minecraft!
In case you guys missed it:
Microsoft: Forza 5 runs at 60 fps, Xbox One has no fps/resolution requirements
Microsoft: Forza 5 runs at 60 fps, Xbox One has no fps/resolution requirements
Sounds like <1080p to me. That's quoting Phil Spencer.
He brought up Forza 5 as a example of a game pushing 60 fps, he never hinted or commented on the resolution of the game.
But on GAF I read Forza 5 is sub HD!
I can't believe NeoGAF is selective quoting, a new low.
A time ago when we got the first hardware rumors, I already said that I am fine with games not boing 1080p on consoles as there are other improvements made as well. For Forza 60fps is the most important thing graphically.
Oh, and windshields please
"Ruf is Porche", remember that? It happened today?
Selective quoting 1-0-1.
LOL
On topic: 60fps is most important, even at 900p or whatever non-FHD resolution. I have no single problem as long as it is solid 60 and 720p and above.
CassidyIzABeast
Member
Forza thread is hilarious. Apparently the 1080p shots they put out are bullshots even though the actual bullshots on the press site are 7680 x 4320.
Ravensmash
Member
That thread is full of so much negativity.
Everyone is so angry recently - E3 will be great.
Everyone is so angry recently - E3 will be great.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
I don't see the news in a Forza game being 60fps.
Yeah, it's not really news. But hey, the thread serves other purposes now.
I think that Turn10 is one of those studios who had something to say about the hardware and probably were under the first ones who get the devkits.
edit: ahh shoot dp again
Shit is insane. E3 be it good or bad, will be glorious.
'cos Xbox1 is only as powerful as 2 WiiUs?
aha... i couldnt care less. thousands of other festures are more important to me.
or tracks
Forza 5: An Xbox One Game Ten Years in the Making
http://www.gamespot.com/forza-motor...box-one-game-ten-years-in-the-making-6409324/
http://www.gamespot.com/forza-motor...box-one-game-ten-years-in-the-making-6409324/
Holy fuck. Haven't seen the video yet but 60 fps and 1080p!!!!
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