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Polygon: Xbox One policy "gross, despicable, greedy, pathetic, cowardly"
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Shocking development: Publication not hive mind; different writers have different opinions.
lol yes, but he's been hiding behind a livestream of some Capcom port of some D&D game.
lol
Dark_AnNiaLatOr
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Can't believe Polygon did this. I'm glad. It would've been enraging if they said good stuff about it, as if they were paid or something.
3rdamention
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tinfoilhatman said:
Check your tabs. You're on a forum dedicated to gaming called NeoGaf. This isn't debatingchristianity.com or menshealth.co.uk
As to the topic, I rarely give praise to Polygon but in this case its warranted. Kudos.
rain elbows
Member
It says right on his editorial that it was cancelled.
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
Wait til E3.
Ah, I see.
Hmm... well I guess it'll take some time before he can get a job at MS. More importantly, that's an awesomely cute avatar. I am melting here.
It's fun taking things out of context
Spoilers: Brad was talking about the Downclocked GPU when he made that statement, not the DRM.
On the one hand I can totally understand the approach Microsoft is taking with pushing into a digital future. They still have to keep publishers happy and all that.
I just think they are going the wrong way about it. I say, remove the physical media DRM and give us a reason to purchase digital over the physical.
Evolve the industry that way, not the current way.
I'm interested to see how their policy evolves from here on with all the media attention. I'd say what they launch with in November will be different from what has been outlined as of now.
I just think they are going the wrong way about it. I say, remove the physical media DRM and give us a reason to purchase digital over the physical.
Evolve the industry that way, not the current way.
I'm interested to see how their policy evolves from here on with all the media attention. I'd say what they launch with in November will be different from what has been outlined as of now.
ambientmystic
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Dragon1893
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I guess that's one way to get rid of the bias accusations lol.
It's not the writer's opinion that is surprising, it's the fact polygon published it.
It's not the writer's opinion that is surprising, it's the fact polygon published it.
Chocolate & Vanilla
Fuck Strawberry
Wow! Great to see games and general media finally stepping up to defend consumers on this. Perhaps the fact it surprises me is a little sad but still, good stuff.
Paid shills are getting more and more obvious.
rain elbows
Member
Great editorial, a nice change from Polygon.
Trying to get some goodwill before the kickstarter? Too soon?
Off-Kilter
Banned
Never, never did I expect to read those words coming out of Polygon. Good god they completely tore Microsoft apart. Such a strongly worded article - and I enjoyed every bit of it.
*melts away*
SteveDaWonder
Neo Member
I have to say I disagree. Chris Grant and the other PolyUppers wouldn't let this go up unless they all felt similarly.
Just went through and made sure to read all of those articles. Thanks for putting everything in one place.
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
Yeah, the linked video is sooo tame.
They're basically not giving a fuck about it.
Shameful.
I like how you ignore my entire post just because you we're in such a hurry to look cool.
For the record, I'm not buying an XB1. If you want to have a mature discussion rather than this fucking childish bullshit let me know.
Thanx.
Using Wikipedia... All of the games you've mentioned date to, at the very latest, 1999. How much did you pay for them in 2005? How big was the used PC gaming section compared to a console's used gaming section? Not that I don't believe that PC gaming didn't have a used gaming market, but I'm saying it wasn't anywhere near as big as the used gaming market for console gaming even back then, let alone the size of the used console gaming market today.
3rdamention
Member
No wonder IGN is so quite, they may be cleaning the egg off their face!!!
hahaha
damn
Great greatttt post. This is what it feels like.
Polygon is doing the infamous shoot promo right now
Who is in charge at Microsoft? Who are the bosses? Who is responsible for the new Xbox, Windows Phone, Bing, Windows 8? Can you read about it somewhere?
EDIT: Here is some stuff, from January: http://www.forbes.com/sites/adamhartung/2013/01/20/sell-microsoft-now-game-over-ballmer-loses/
Microsoft makes more than 75% of its profits from Windows and Office. Less than 25% comes from its vaunted servers and tools. And Microsoft makes nothing from its xBox/Kinect entertainment division, while losing vast sums in its on-line division (negative $350M-$750M/quarter). No matter how much anyone likes the non-Windows Microsoft products, without the historical Windows/Office sales and profits, it’s hard to see how long Microsoft can remain sustainable.
EDIT: Here is some stuff, from January: http://www.forbes.com/sites/adamhartung/2013/01/20/sell-microsoft-now-game-over-ballmer-loses/
Microsoft makes more than 75% of its profits from Windows and Office. Less than 25% comes from its vaunted servers and tools. And Microsoft makes nothing from its xBox/Kinect entertainment division, while losing vast sums in its on-line division (negative $350M-$750M/quarter). No matter how much anyone likes the non-Windows Microsoft products, without the historical Windows/Office sales and profits, it’s hard to see how long Microsoft can remain sustainable.
3rdamention
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They are only going to be able to bring their NO DRM Policies to their 1st Party titles or titles they publish. They have already said it is up to the developer.
However, it also appears the PS4 is not built with these DRM restrictions built within the system like MS. Sony will probably let Publishers simply use online passes or something, and the publishers will charge like $20 for a pass compared to $10 this generation.
One thing that is a bit puzzling. Microsoft's DRM and used game policies seem so complicated, on the hardware and software side, they had to have spent a LOT of time developing this. Being able to have a family member play your games, being able to give it to one friend of 30 days only 1 time, being able to deactivate games at participating retailers and trade them in, publishers being able to utilize one, all or none of these features if they want.
These policies flat out SUCK, but are quite impressive from the software side that they were able to integrate all of this into their new system. Shows me they have spent so much time on integrating this system, they may have fallen behind on the hardware and software development side because of it.
Spring-Loaded
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where's the political cartoon gif of Polygon/Plante as Darth Vader throwing Microsoft down the chute?
ebullientprism
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Its GB. To expect anything else is silly on your behalf.
They will tow their neutral line. At best you might get the "I know its bad but it doesnt affect me" concession.
Baller. PhD
Banned
Well done... Polygon?
The Xbone is turning my world on its head.
The Xbone is turning my world on its head.
Playsation_
Banned
It's a trap..!!
Nikodemos
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Not a lot, true. I think it was somewhere around $25 for the whole lot.
It was surprisingly big. It even had room for several multi-CD games, like the Baldur's Gate series or Sanitarium. True, the console section was larger, but there were many more console generations. There were bins with NES/SNES/Master System/Genesis carts in some flimsy plastic bags (IIRC).
Correct, it was smaller, and it got smaller still, to nearly non-existent. But it definitely existed, and in its heyday it had a good selection of interesting niche (and not-niche) games. Not exactly "never had any real used gaming market".
And with the kind of news that keeps popping up about Xbox One, it looks like they'll be making no money from X1 at all, either.