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Polygon: Xbox One policy "gross, despicable, greedy, pathetic, cowardly"
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Haha it's so obvious the pr firm they work for have given them a list of things to say to derail threads, steam must be #1 on that list.
Good lord, really? What a joke.
Blimey, great list of articles in the OP!!! :Oo
I really can't see the One coming back from this anti-consumer bollocks, and I'm pretty sure that Sony will have changed their own stance on DRM after all of this unanimously negative press and backlash from gamers on boards across the world.
You can't even say that the 'casual' demographic is going to save it from abject failure because it isn't going to have the price advantage that the Wii had last gen, and that the Wii U is going to have this gen, and that's before you take into account that these 'casual' gamers won't be able to play their 360 games on their new console.
I really can't believe that Microsoft have fucked this up so badly tbh. They probably couldn't have fucked things up any more than this if they tried.
I really can't see the One coming back from this anti-consumer bollocks, and I'm pretty sure that Sony will have changed their own stance on DRM after all of this unanimously negative press and backlash from gamers on boards across the world.
You can't even say that the 'casual' demographic is going to save it from abject failure because it isn't going to have the price advantage that the Wii had last gen, and that the Wii U is going to have this gen, and that's before you take into account that these 'casual' gamers won't be able to play their 360 games on their new console.
I really can't believe that Microsoft have fucked this up so badly tbh. They probably couldn't have fucked things up any more than this if they tried.
Actually while nowhere as big as eu/us markets Japan does infact have a rental market for books games and dvds, and an expansive used game market too.
Malaccans101
Neo Member
Nice to see someone else has jumped off Polygon's balls for the time being.
Aaaaaaand gone. The Bish hungers for more.
Though I wonder how much Japanese developers would like being able to restrict/get a cut of used sales. Or is just charging high prices a better option for them.
Killing_Joke
Member
They don't even try to hide it. Bash TLOU and Zelda but praise the X1 policies because "it doesn't affect me"? lol
YouEnjoyMySelf
Banned
No.. this hasn't been the case for a while. We are free to do what we want now with our data plans.
Google "verizon tethering lawsuit", brah.
Lawsuit results doesn't apply to all plans. Hilariously, the removal of tethering restrictions only applies to the data capped plans.
dragonelite
Member
Forget japan.
Drop mandatory kinect and try europe probably more money to get from europe then japan for microsoft.
That all they really have to do drop kinect connection and im fine.
Will buy games when on sales and digital version.
They aren't in cahoots with Microsoft. Their self-indulging and embarrassing documentary was sponsored by Microsoft (or rather Internet Explorer), their self-indulging and embarrassing reviews editor is a corporate apologist, and their soft-balling, review re-rating, exclusive review-taking, clique-tweeting and tact-lacking attitude rubs people the wrong way.
Are you a viral marketer? You do know that you're on pretty much the largest video game forum on the internet. If the gold standard for making threads and discussing them is if the inconvenience is comparable to sex slaves, well then I guess neogaf is done. Someone notify Tyler to sell out.
My response to the thread:
I think Microsoft's games department is nuts. They have stiff competition in Japan and Europe, and abroad. These draconian rules without even the allure of really high end hardware is going to backfire so hard. They'll probably lose hard in Europe/Japan, and lose dominance in the US. I certainly don't give 2 shits about live TV.
SlipperyFishes
Banned
The worst.
Not enough use of Marketing scripts loaded with words like 'experience' or 'content', maybe 'added value to consumers'.
Well the content providers need to be reimbursed for their efforts. Can't have a third party reselling the used daughter without getting a cut. The providers have their own sons and daughters depending on their job.
Ha, that was great
oh man I Fucking knew it. I responded to that guy... the like steam, nonsense, is obviously a taking point. But it falls apart with anyone who knows what steam is.
that leads me to believe that Microsoft/pr has no idea what steam actually is ( to advise their shills.), which might explain why they seem so caught off guard.
I wonder if publishers painted a picture of gaming to ms that isn't exactly true.
Tye The Czar
Member
Biting the hand that feeds, eh? If that's so, then Polygon has got HUGE GUTS.
CouldBeWorse
Member
That's true of every video game magazine and website. The vast majority of their advertising is game-based. That's why it's important to separate editorial and advertising sales.
Oppo
Member
terrifyingly realistic
BRocknRolla
Member
That really is the future of gaming in a lot of ways. I have so little interest in 95% of that. Hope indies will revitalize their platform of choice.
NullPointer
Member
All it needed was more social/cloud/connected whatever.
I don't expect them to bring up DRM during their conferences, but I *do* expect them to sell us the conditions that will *require* their DRM or paint those restrictions as an enhancement if you tilt your head and squint.
So I expect to see plenty of reasons why I would never, ever, ever want to be unplug my internet cable or kinect or whatever murder-death-fun robot the PS4 will have watching over us.
I'm kind of surprised to see this article. Pleasantly surprised however. The more journalists, both gaming and mainstream, that call out this nonsense, the better it is for all of us.
Well, for now, we're all kind of safe. It's not going to be very different from the PS3, with a few changes, but who knows what the long-term future holds if MS ends up succeeding over these coming years. Maybe Sony will decide to take the absolute piss then too.
Looks like Polygon saw their credibility in the gaming community going down precipitously (apparent Xbox favoritism, the outlier TLOU review score), and now they're in a desperate haste to salvage their sinking ship.
I remember visiting Polygon by chance--a site I never even heard of--on the day of the disastrous Xbox One reveal, and seeing absolutely no negative articles about the Xbox One whatsoever. Maybe they're trying to align themselves a bit more evenly now.
I remember visiting Polygon by chance--a site I never even heard of--on the day of the disastrous Xbox One reveal, and seeing absolutely no negative articles about the Xbox One whatsoever. Maybe they're trying to align themselves a bit more evenly now.
Roland1979
Junior Member
Even if it was like Steam, WHICH IT IS NOT, how would that make it a justification?
Suddenly two wrongs make a right? F*ck off with this nonsense. Comparing it to Steam is grasping a straw. Sure there will be some sales for games in some stores. But they will be not like on Steam, they will not be discounted that quickly, every AAA game is like standard $10 more expensive, then there's the DRM (cloud being mainly a excuse for that, also trying to boost a somewhat crippled console doesn't sound too good), there's the camera plus the fact they can change there policies at any time. The thing is also too big, it's focus is wrong and annoying for a hardcore gamer, it's full of features that only work for US citizens, i don't want to pay for Kinect (PS sells Move separately) and i can go on for a while.
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Suddenly two wrongs make a right? F*ck off with this nonsense. Comparing it to Steam is grasping a straw. Sure there will be some sales for games in some stores. But they will be not like on Steam, they will not be discounted that quickly, every AAA game is like standard $10 more expensive, then there's the DRM (cloud being mainly a excuse for that, also trying to boost a somewhat crippled console doesn't sound too good), there's the camera plus the fact they can change there policies at any time. The thing is also too big, it's focus is wrong and annoying for a hardcore gamer, it's full of features that only work for US citizens, i don't want to pay for Kinect (PS sells Move separately) and i can go on for a while.
the controller is nice though
VS
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Lonewolf_92
Member
At this point, any gaming focused website that hasn't taken a shot at this crap MS is pulling has to know they're flushing their credibility down the drain. There's comes a point where all the moneyhats in the world don't make up for the loss in clicks siding with MS would cause, those rats not abandoning ship now likely won't be around in the next few years.