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Redditor claims MS employees monitoring Reddit; making positive posts about the Xbox1
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Saw an article about this at Tom's Hardware: http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Reddit-Xbox-One-Reputation-Management-upvote-downvote,23014.html
I'm now unsure about every positive Xbone comment. I thought it was weird that some people were excited about getting punched in the face.
I'm now unsure about every positive Xbone comment. I thought it was weird that some people were excited about getting punched in the face.
What "leaps" are there, here? We've had mod confirmation that this sort of marketing is happening and happens all the time.
The fact we have billion-dollar corporations involved in this industry practically guarantees that they'll be doing this.
yup. reputation management backfire.
What? Now it's our fault we have MS employees shilling here?
We should have just not discussed the rumors that eventually turned out to be mostly true?
Are you suggesting that we're not giving Sony shit too? Because that's untrue. Or are you saying that the XBox is getting way more negative press? Because that IS true.
We just know less about what Sony's plans are, which leaves more room for fans to express hope. Microsoft has been much more open about what they're doing, and we don't like it, so of course everyone's piling on. If Sony announced today that they're were doing everything the XBone is with the PS4 then they'd start getting the same kind of concentrated negative press.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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It wasn't until info on these practices started coming straight out the horse's mouth that the astroturfing on this issue started to become transparent.
crooked spin
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MikeXXIeaf
Banned
A perfect example is the Kinect issues with privacy, and needing it in order for the One to function.
Both were complete BS yet people ran with their base assumption.
People assumed the worst because Microsoft executives actually said it themselves. Then when Microsoft PR saw the negative reactions they lied, and said "oh everything is not final and has been misreported"
Now just a day or two ago we got confirmation pretty much everything is as shitty as we first thought it was.
When Sony executives start saying the same shitty things about DRM, people will be just as mad. If they ignore the issue at E3, people will be mad.
The privacy issue was clarified but the Kinect has to be connected to work.
In any case it's quite ironic how you're wrong while trying to correct others.
MikeXXIeaf
Banned
In any case it's not nearly as bad as what people were saying "it's always listening! MS is spying on you!"
Until we have the TOS, we won't know what data they are going to be collecting. But because data = money, its almost guaranteed they will be collecting data.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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People weren't willing to give MS the benefit of the doubt because the way the company has acted in the past. This is the manufacturer that made paying a subscription fee for online multiplayer a thing. This is the manufacturer that swept the massive issue of RROD under the rug. This is the company that got in major trouble back in the 90's under the suspicion of trying to create a monopoly in the PC market. Its much easier for people to believe that MS would bring these policies into motion(and they are) due to precedent.
But that's besides the point. Regardless of how people were acting back when these facts were rumors, no community deserves the toxic environment that's being caused by these scummy PR actions.
Dictator93
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Wickerbasket
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You mean those assumptions that turned out to be real?
Microsoft has no one to blame for their bad PR but themselves.
Their shilling just makes it worse in my opinion, as you can't trust anyone being positive about the XB one.
There it is. MS is totally justified to defend themselves from the flood of anger and negative opinions from actual customers who are outraged about horrible rumors that turned out to be 100% true. What choice is there but to fight back against all these angry customers.
Serious, no.
How do you know? Now its OK to assume things I see.
Yeah obviously microsoft deserves the benefit of the doubt. The NSA told me so.
no, the talking point isn't "in some respects."
it's " it's just like steam, so don't complain,"
make sense? your addition of"in some respects" is not what is being stated. it's entirety as a comparison isnt valid whole to whole, pricing, 24 hour check is vastly different.
if you understand this much,we can continue.
Just saw that Hix got banned. His last posts were not inflammatory/meltdown/flamebait stuff except the guy was VERY active in the Xbone E3 thread organizing stuff. Just wondering if there was any co-relation to this?
Axispowers
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SONY was doing the same thing the other day. Making Good guy Playstation pics and posting them.
LupinTheThird
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Sad, pathetic, and disgusting. I hope the eSRAM in every Xbone melts down and results in another class action lawsuit against MS. Wait, does MS even have to worry about a class action suit from the whopping 500 units that sell?
You didn't post for three months to post this little gem after all the work that's been done on this subject?
Go back to sleep.
I can't believe how blatant these guys are.
its going to get worse and worse every year. it'll be the thing that destroys the internet :<
New thread time?
He's worse than Orth;
Ron Berry: Go back to your NES and blowing your cartridges
Holy shit.
Lupin the Third
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Wow, we have almost the same username. I probably wouldn't have posted as abrasively, but hey, welcome to the forum!
Oh god. Like Sony and Nintendo don't do the same. They all do it. Welcome to reality...
Unknown Soldier
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I can't wait for "Sony and Nintendo do it too" to become the next talking point after everyone's tired of "It's just like Steam" and "Welcome to the future".
Wolves Evolve
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Why don't company employees just identify themselves? Is it just because they can't be trained properly and be trusted not to say dumb things? The proposition of going onto boards to change opinions proposes that people come to them to have arguments and have their minds changed.
Honestly I kind of wonder if Astroturfing ever even occurred to Nintendo or looked like a worthwhile use of resources. They seem kind of slow on the internet in general so it wouldn't surprise me.
Sony though, yeah, I kind of expect it but I imagine if Sony doesn't announce anything extreme they're going to blend in relatively easily.
http://edition.cnn.com/2013/06/07/tech/gaming-gadgets/microsoft-xbox-one-answers/index.html
In the comments section: Sean Ackerman and Alec Jeffrey. If you look at their profiles and post history they each only have about 14 posts and almost all of them are in this article defending the Xbox One and Microsoft. I don't know about Reddit (there's no proof as others have said), but I'm pretty damn sure the ones I listed are textbook examples of shills, complete with Average Joe names and avatars.
If that's not blatant shilling then I don't know what is.
In the comments section: Sean Ackerman and Alec Jeffrey. If you look at their profiles and post history they each only have about 14 posts and almost all of them are in this article defending the Xbox One and Microsoft. I don't know about Reddit (there's no proof as others have said), but I'm pretty damn sure the ones I listed are textbook examples of shills, complete with Average Joe names and avatars.
If that's not blatant shilling then I don't know what is.
Your reverse psychology won't work on me.
I agree. I really hate this "defense". Sure, it's possible, but I haven't seen it yet from Sony and Nintendo, and I doubt they would do this in this scale and this blatant. Microsoft is on a whole different level.
I'm about 200% sure Ninty will never pull DRM on used games. Sony is 1/4 of that percentage right now. I'm hoping like hell.
http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/1fyjgr/regarding_xbox_one_and_allegations_of_voterigging/
Keep bandwagoning Gaf.
Keep bandwagoning Gaf.
People can have strong opinions. Stop being so paranoid.
Wolves Evolve
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What does that change? People have been caught here dozens of times. What are you suggesting - that people just made up a multi-million dollar industry which has thousands of employees, many of whom talk openly about what they do?
I actually did think of them as just people with a very pro-MS opinion, until I looked at their profiles and saw almost all of their posts were in that one article.
Wickerbasket
Member
It's been happening here; mods have commented on it and have been dealing with it by banning them.
If they're here, they're definitely on Reddit; they're less noticeable there though because people down vote them into oblivion and no one can see their comments.
IrishNinja
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GAF the people you're accusing of astroturfing due to their PR work are denying it, their firm says no way jose
here's 56 channels of American Gladiators GAF, go back to sleep
here's 56 channels of American Gladiators GAF, go back to sleep
you're kinda hopping on the bandwagon as well, no? i mean no where in that article does it even refute the original poster, it's entire foundation rests on someone who "chimed in". that's suspicious as hell.
i mean i don't need someone to tell me it's happening. it's obvious. it's been happening all around us for the last decade. i've caught companies doing it all over the time, just never have i found an outlet to talk about it. for someone like microsoft, getting ready to release "always online" console, keeping their reputation managed online is just so obvious. they're not putting their shareholders first if they don't do it
I somewhat don't get the surprise here.
Do people think there aren't posters on places like reddit, GAF, and other forums who are affiliated with big companies like Sony, MS, Nintendo, EA, etc.?
What those people say and do is another matter, but there have to be people at these companies who aren't so out of touch and actually read what people are saying in popular sites.
Do people think there aren't posters on places like reddit, GAF, and other forums who are affiliated with big companies like Sony, MS, Nintendo, EA, etc.?
What those people say and do is another matter, but there have to be people at these companies who aren't so out of touch and actually read what people are saying in popular sites.
LOL. I wonder if these sleeper agents have activation chip on them. On that note, I find it annoying that we have to deal with a batch of new members just a few days before E3. This kind of situation doesn't help obviously but I'm also concerned about the server load during E3 conferences.
LupinTheThird
Banned
Err..ummm...I mean. Xbone is the bom dawg! Those haters is just hatin cuz, cuz, well cuz theys haterz! Everyone wants an Xbone for Christmas...even yo dawg. No not you dawg, though he want one too, but yo dog. Yeah even the canine wants one. And I do not work for M$ so you know Iz legit!
Elaugaufein
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I don't have a problem with people affiliated with big companies being on web forums. People have jobs, that's life. People paid to market a product while hiding their affiliation is something I find much more questionable.
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