"Finally" as in, in addition to. They said one thing in quotes, and then decided to say another thing, but not in quotes.
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Xbox One DRM policy changes waited on gamers knowing complete story
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"Finally" as in, in addition to. They said one thing in quotes, and then decided to say another thing, but not in quotes.
DenogginizerOS
BenjaminBirdie's Thomas Jefferson
I don't trust them. What a dumb way to spin this!
Wow. Really sounds like gamers are losing out, according to VG24/7. Maybe it was all a mistake! What if we don't know what's good for us?
No, we knew about them before. Granted the family plan details were unknown because Microsoft wouldn't answer shit. Still, I'm surprised at how many people are just a-okay with buying a Xbox 180 now. I don't have much faith in them as a company to not reinstate shitty policies nor do I trust their vision of 'the future.'
It was probably asked and no answer given. They've gotta be careful what they say at this point.
One definitely does not = the other.
And if they had more you would assume that they would put it in the story.
But, as you have witnessed over the past months the MS mouth pieces have a habit of giving non answers to direct questions so they may have just not answered when asked directly.
Megapsychotron
Banned
Some Grade A, top quality, BULLLLLSHEEEET!!!
zomgbbqftw
Banned
Because the Polygon dude asked for a guarantee or assurance that they wouldn't change the policy back, and he was fed a PR line about what they currently do. That means no assurance that they won't change it back.
Freeza Under The Shower
Member
I really love this sentence. Being excited about motherfucking policies and all.
And adding things!, when you're actually striking them off the board.
Amazing.
Not the same. The backlash pressured them to change. A change back to it would cause an even bigger backlash. There's absolutely no benefit for them to do it at this point. If they had a long term plan to change back to it, they'd stick with it. The "trojan horse" analogy doesn't work.
palpabl_purpura
Member
Remember $49.99 Xbox 360 first party games? How long did that last?
Lord Panda
The Sea is Always Right
Are they simply incapable of being honest?
Please tell me you dont actually think they'd do that?
Can't really expect them to tell the truth in this case can you?
"Umm, preorders were abysmal, public opinion was negative....Xbox one eighty gogo!"
Don't you get it? Microsoft installed that rootkit DRM on computers without asking. Who knows the kind of evil they're capable of!
ProfessorMoran
Member
I guess they've seen Titanfall.
Yeah, really makes no sense why they couldn't have kept this for those buying the digital versions through the MS store.
For physical disc, they could have just disabled the feature to scan the game and make it digital (thus also fore-fitting the sharing/cloud stuff). That way physical could also do offline. This screams to me like MS was either exaggerating what the plan could do, or publishers rejected this model.
Unspeakable Evil
Member
Whatever Microsoft .
everyday math
Banned
I smell something. And it's called bullshit. :/
Hitokiri03
Member
Whitten said:
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Microsoft's arrogance during all this has been so pathetic. They've been on the wrong path for 3-4 years now and this doesn't change hardly anything considering they are still more expensive and cram Kinect down your throat.
I'm very happy to see them reverse their DRM stance and it assures I will be getting one when it's cheaper though.
I'm very happy to see them reverse their DRM stance and it assures I will be getting one when it's cheaper though.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
WOW--can't assure us they won't change policies again?
So there's a possibility they could screw people over AFTER they've bought it? Please. I was actually considering buying this thing one day down the road. Goodbye to that thought.
So there's a possibility they could screw people over AFTER they've bought it? Please. I was actually considering buying this thing one day down the road. Goodbye to that thought.
gutter_trash
Banned
pre-order numbers, that is what changed your mind Microsoft
ElRenoRaven
Member
You know I'd be ok with that. Give people the choice and the option.
It's a joke man, sheesh.
FantasticMrFoxdie
Mumber
ASIS said:Sooo... we went from 360, to one, to 180 now it's... 720?
#dead
CadetMahoney
Member
So now it's confirmed not to be always online after the backlash?
Wonder how many more bullet points on Sony adverts in newspapers they will counter after the fact lol.
So no more sharing games with friends and making nice little savings :/
why_not_have_both.gif
Happy-Bunny
Banned
Well... just let it happen, it'll be over soon
This is so funny but so hard. I love MS and no DRM seriously has me considering ore ordering a Xbox One. However I just can't. With comments not guranteing policies will change in future and the fact that they even tried to pull this shit means I'm still siding with Sony. Better luck next time MS.
Hmm...you know I can completely see MS doing a quick patch job of this whole "Family Plan Sharing" thing after the backlash of E3 and the calling them out on a lack of advantages they kept alluding to knowing full well they were going to do a reversal at that point. The suddenness and lack of details on the sharing plan that seemingly would be worse for them and publishers at face value just seemed like one of those BS quick made up things that would never come true and now with this reversal makes sense as a sort of parent or someone making shit up to guilt trip you thing "Well I WASSSSS going to take you to Disney World but you were acting like a little shit so now forget it"
All of this together makes MS look like such a douche of a company. If I wanted a guilt trip or made to feel bad I can call my mom MS, don't need that shit from you.
All of this together makes MS look like such a douche of a company. If I wanted a guilt trip or made to feel bad I can call my mom MS, don't need that shit from you.
FranXico
Member
Sony paid for that fuckup dearly. Both with the class action lawsuit and lost sales. Don't you think they learned their lesson already?
I still laugh whenever people quote "rootkit" to make Microsoft look like saints in comparison.
If you want to talk about evil deeds done in the past, let's remember Netscape, the DOS long con on IBM, the DBLSPACE debacle, and the Linux FUD campaign in the 90s. And yes, these things did impact consumers A LOT in the long run.
Even nowadays, they repeatedly get fines from EU for repeated anti-consumer practices.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
So they wanted to make sure everyone thought the XBO sounded as awful as possible before making it sound a little better? Yep, makes sense.
blitzcloud
Banned
So the power of the cloud needs always online.
Every exclusive game is "power of the cloud". right?
Every exclusive game is "power of the cloud". right?
dragonelite
Member
With mandatory kinect yeah i am worried who knows how many back doors there are on the X1. While i have no problems with kinect sending data while playing a kinect or better with kinect game. I dont want that camera connected if im playing a non kinect game.
Microsoft build in NSA backdoors in windows 98 or so. Not sure if they are still in the later versions
But lets not forget that other companies like sony for instance rootkit cd pull that shit too.
Ea with origin not sure if that was confirmed or busted. How origin scanned your files on your pc. There are hundreds more of those stunts.
So yeah not giving confirmation about not changing this DRM policy is logically over 20 years people could use it against you.
Hell sony can't even confirm that the specs on the specs sheet are the specs you will get at launch. Historically seen most consoles at launch get a down clock probably to supply demand better.
/Inbe4 paranoia
RobbieNick
Junior Member
David"CheapyD"Abrhams on Facebook said:
It's one thing to be a fanboy because you like a certain company's console or IP's over another. It's another thing to champion a system and corporation trying to fuck you over. I use to love listening to Cheapy D and the CAcast, but after this I'm starting to wonder about him.
Also, they removed family sharing. The one thing attracting me to the system in any way.
Fried Food
Banned
Next story: Microsoft mandates all games use The Cloud.
I do like the idea that Microsoft put forth they're original plan with the intention of showing what could be. There were some good aspects to the plan.
I do like the idea that Microsoft put forth they're original plan with the intention of showing what could be. There were some good aspects to the plan.