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[Quadraphonic]

Quadraphonic
XBONE Detective
(Today, 01:27 AM)

Nice tag

Yay!

"Not demos" is his way of admitting they were time-limited trials of full games. What a weasel.

 

[spwolf]

basically, they made it hard to understand to make themselves look good even though they knew at the end, everyone will get mad at them...

60 minutes is what you get with PS+ full game trials, you dont have to be a family member of anyone.

 

[_Ryo_]

*Sigh* Microsoft being Microsoft. Just sad at this point.

 

[Triggerhappytel]

I actually think it's a shame they didn't go through with all their initial policies, because I would have liked to see the market rebel against this piece of shit and it to flunk, big time. They may have u-turned on the most contentious aspect, but I think the whole pattern of he last few months shows that MS don't really give a shit about their customers, will absolutely lie, deceive and cloud the truth if it suits them and would rather appease their fellow conglomerates and multinational businesses than their existing customers.

 

[Air Zombie Meat]

lol, now geese has jumped in we know it's real.

 

[maquiladora]

Plus, reading between the lines, MS confirmed it from day one. Pretending it was an 'offline time out' when it was just a 'time out'.

Yep, it was hiding in plain sight and we all got fooled by that.

A shitty attempt to disguise a not very exciting feature into something that looked very cool and gamechanging, something that would create buzz, deflect attention from the restrictive policies and light up pre-orders before the nasty details about the reality of it would need to be aired.

smh

 

[Neuromancer]

The most disreputable person in games media vs crazy buttocks on a train.

Gee I wonder who to listen to...

 

[chubigans]

60 minutes confirmed.

Seriously, the amount of times he's been wrong is crazy.

 

[Cynar]

Every day something bad comes out about Microsoft's plans. This is such a huge marketing blunder it's kinda crazy. I wouldn't be surprised to see a book about this in a year or two discussing how to destroy your brand in less than a month.

 

[Brannon]

Of course they're full games. They just have time limits. Like Xbox Live Arcade games. So Gies isn't lying, just being a wordsmith, as it were.

 

[Boss Man]

Arranged over dinner with a cup of secret sauce.

 

[Roto13]

Who do we believe, CBOAT or Arthur?

lololol

The one who ever literally knows what he's talking about.

 

[Ikaruga!]

I'm sorry, did anyone really believe that family program would work like they first announced? You'd have to be pretty naive.

Buy 1 Game for 10 xBone Consoles, makes sense!

NOT!

But you have to admit, MS tried to be as vague about it as possible...

 

[soul creator]

implied this in the other thread, but the feature by itself would actually be pretty nice, but obviously it's not some "omg amazing Xbox redeemed" feature. This still implies that demos would be guaranteed for every game (even if just time limited), without it having to be an entirely separate version of the game, which is a plus, like on XBLA. I use the "Compare Games" feature when browsing my friends list all the time, so this is just a natural extension of that, I think (of course, there's no point in limiting this to a "family" at that point)

The problem with their terrible messaging (and other folks that are desperate for a silver lining) is that they're turning nice conveniences that someone could appreciate into "omg this is why Xbox One is so amazing, take that Sony".

And when the feature inevitably doesn't live up to the hype, you get the backlash.

 

[Iacobellis]

And the "secret sauce" is real.

 

[Deleted member 17706]

Hell, yeah. Just like that Secret Sauce, right Giesy?

Keep on truckin' you full of shit bastard.

 

[Ding-Ding]

Can we stop giving space to that piece of crap from polygon please.

 

[everyday math]

Yay!

"Not demos" is his way of admitting they were time-limited trials of full games. What a weasel.

Basically. Dat spin!

Nice tag btw.

 

[Durante]

So I guess this was the way the DRM plan would get "even worse" that CBoaT alluded to earlier.

 

[Amir0x]

Arthur Gies is so cute

 

[ebullientprism]

Never change Gies. You are way more entertaining being an idiot.

 

[markot]

Hahaha

What screwemups.

 

[I H8 Memes]

Whoa. This is lower than even I expected from MS. But then again should we be surprised? Why else did shared games have a 1 hour check in versus the 24 hour check in for main account holder? I hadnt really even thought about it before.

 

[DashReindeer]

Is there a gif that I can use of someone laughing hysterically? I think this is an appropriate time for one...

 

[Relaxed Muscle]

I'll side with CBOAT on this one.

 

[Acorn]

Guys ignore gies. He lives for attention.

 

[Averon]

CBOAT>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Gies

Gies has no credibility left. He's a clown.

 

[Leckan]

Too bad I don't have a family. Fuck you, Microsoft.

Batman?

 

[Goon Boon]

60 minutes confirmed.

Seriously, the amount of times he's been wrong is crazy.

At least Pachter seems like a nice fellow, Gies is just a welcher of bets and an all around cunt.

 

[mikey1123]

I'm starting to lose all the trust for Microsoft. They need to just be up front about their console.

 

[Meus Renaissance]

I anticipated some kind of catch but nothing to this extent. I am truly shocked that these "10 games" would have effectively been demos.

 

[MikeE21286]

Hahahahahahahaha



Hahahaha ha

Oh my. Apologizers for this you had to have known. C'mon seriously we all knew there was a catch. Glad we got rid of that damn DRM...

 

[Nobility]

This is incredible to even consider, could you imagine if they actually had launched with these policies...

Microsoft seems so distant from the company I knew in the past.

Some part of me would like to see this happen just to see the mass revolt. Ingenious idea but omission of this information would have devastated any possibility of wide acceptance.

I should show this to the countless people I know who were trying to convince me that the DRM removal meant the world missing out in this 'ideal' digital gaming future.

 

[everthustodeadbeats]

lol, Microsoft takes us for fools even now. I guess we are fools for helping pay these empty suits' salaries.

No longer.

 

[Ysiadmihi]

Someone should tell Arthur the best defense he can give Microsoft is to shut the fuck up.

 

[Wolves Evolve]

Yeah I imagine it would be some publishers. That makes it worse. Complicated, multi-layered.

This is the "new experience" they touted? This is why they make fun of the PS4 as 360 part 2? Its a better version of a great console? Oh that sucks!

They don't get it at all.

Innovate on content not on form. Develop games. Spend on games!

 

[not psycho]

Heh, not surprised. The game sharing with 10 people thing sounded waaaay too good to be true. Even Sony cut it down from 5 to 2.

Not to mention it is a gray area with Sony, their terms of service don't technically say game sharing is legal even for 2 people.

And yet some people thought MS was going to allow global game sharing among groups formed online, risk free, no accounts or physical discs involved, so you would never have to buy a game again.

The very same MS that days earlier was bragging about how when you played a game (using your account) on another system the "bits" would still be there afterward, so the friend would have instant access to the game (just had to buy it at full price).

 

[mightynine]

Hmmm, you'd think if he wanted to debunk this, he would've mentioned the timer.

 

[Deus Ex Machina]

Since people have been asking for a separate thread regarding this revelation, here is a little background:

http://www.heyuguysgaming.com/news/12507/heartbroken-xbox-one-employee-lets-rip-must-read



CBOAT confirmed it as 60 minutes.



Then



Discuss...

Microsoft is full of shit

 

[Conflict NZ]

I still can't believe anyone thought 1 purchase = 10 people play for free

Well when I buy a disc now it's one purchase and I can let 10 people play for free. A lot of people, including myself(because of the way MS phrased it), though this would be the digital equivalent where one person plays at a time and others can't play until that person exits the game.

 

[Eric C]

a 60 minute restriction of a full game is still a demo

 

[SRTtoZ]

But how would your disc even WORK on a friend's console at their house if NOT for the sharing feature? Remember, you'd need to connect online for it to work.

Nice tag

 

[JABEE]

Yep, it was hiding in plain sight and we all got fooled by that.

A shitty attempt to disguise a not very exciting feature into something that looked very cool and gamechanging, something that would create buzz, deflect attention from the restrictive policies and light up pre-orders before the nasty details about the reality of it would need to be aired.

smh

It's basically Microsoft's approach to everything at this point. It's why we were hearing people talk about how "the cloud" can make the system 40x more powerful than the Xbox 360, when it is really just doing things MMOs and games with dedicated servers have done for years. It's a cool universal feature for a console, but it doesn't do fast latency intensive computations remotely to every Xbox in the world.

That was supposed to be the "secret sauce." It's all just deflection and bullshit.

 

[Neuromancer]

The Xbone trainwreck continues, long after we thought we knew everything there was to know.

 

[Splint]

this is even worse than the DRM issue. Before they were scumbags but now they are liars too.

 

[Poltergust]

Something doesn't make sense here, though. Now that the Xbox One supposedly has no more DRM, what's the point in removing such a feature? It's just a one hour demo, not the full game.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

Microsoft continues to show how arrogant and misleading they can be. And they have plenty of folks who defended this and are bending over backwards buying this thing day 1 when they don't deserve anything for all the BS misleading snarly remarks we've had.

But it's ok now, the DRM is gone. MSFT shouldn't be let off the hook for this. They could have been upfront about these new revolutionary features but you know what we got when the questions were asked? "Have you seen TitanFall", "There's another offline console that's called the Xbox 360, go play that", and "Are you a lawyer?". Those are just the few gems that MSFT has spit back when they got any questions which took them to bat on the issue.

 

[alr1ght]

a 60 minute restriction of a full game is still a demo

Not for PR spinners

 

[JetBlackPanda]

I anticipated some kind of catch but nothing to this extent. I am truly shocked that these "10 games" would have effectively been demos.

Really? Shocked?! This was the least suprising thing of all. The system was setup to charge you whatever they decide on every copy of every game for the life of the console and you thought they would let you share games for free?!

 

[TAJ]

Yay!



"Not demos" is his way of admitting they were time-limited trials of full games. What a weasel.

Lol, I almost jokingly made that argument on the last page, before that AGies quote was posted.