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[RionaaM]

"Why not 2k?"

"Because reasons."

lol Nintendo, they only make Mario games... and fund Bayonetta 2, and The Wonderful 101...

Yeah, they are a joke.

 

[gabbo]

Dark Souls™: Prepare to Die Edition - $10.19 at GamersGate

Box art shows GFWL, but in the details it says

DRM:Steamworks (Requires a third-party download and account)
Activation:Must be activated on Steam

That doesn't mean it is without GFW bs as well.

 

[Geoff9920]

A source engine game on Origin? Weird...

 

[morningbus]

Titanfall is a Source Engine game, right? There is no chance of it coming to Origin and not to Steam. Is there any other Source game, where that's the case?

The use of Source does not require Steam. We don't have many examples because the engine isn't very popular, but there are some: like Korean MMOs and the Kuma Games.

Dark Souls™: Prepare to Die Edition - $10.19 at GamersGate

Box art shows GFWL, but in the details it says

DRM:Steamworks (Requires a third-party download and account)
Activation:Must be activated on Steam

To help clear up any confusion: the game uses GFWL, but all its keys activate on Steam. Key activation is the only part of Steamworks the game uses.

 

[Divius]

Shank co-op any good?

Finished the SP in ~2Hrs, pretty fun.

 

[arts&crafts]

Is there a website where I can trade tf2 metal and items for cards? I have some refined and other stuff and I don't play tf2 anymore, may as well level up!

 

[woo and indeed hoo]

Dark Souls™: Prepare to Die Edition - $10.19 at GamersGate

Box art shows GFWL, but in the details it says

DRM:Steamworks (Requires a third-party download and account)
Activation:Must be activated on Steam

Yes but:

System Requirements

Requires a Games for Windows Live and Steam Account to play.

I have a Steam account and love it but I do not have a GFWL account. I hear so much complaining about it though. What's the issue with it?

£6.79 is sorely tempting!

 

[tjohn86]

Shank co-op any good?

Finished the SP in ~2Hrs, pretty fun.

I had a good time with my buddy. It's not perfect but its worth playing.

 

[RionaaM]

Yes but:



I have a Steam account and love it but I do not have a GFWL account. I hear so much complaining about it though. What's the issue with it?

£6.79 is sorely tempting!

You know how a kick in the nuts feels? (I don't, but that's beside the point.) It's exactly like that, but worse. So not really exactly. But worse indeed.

 

[Divius]

I had a good time with my buddy. It's not perfect but its worth playing.

Cool thanks, I'll give it a shot.

 

[morningbus]

You know how a kick in the nuts feels? (I don't, but that's beside the point.) It's exactly like that, but worse. So not really exactly. But worse indeed.

Now I'm having a hard time determining if GFWL is better or worse than Serious Sam.

 

[FloatOn]

This is a really, really cool youtube showing a turn of playing dragon commander:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAF-AAudfp8

It's long, but it is clear that there is a whole lot more going on than just a basic RTS game with a commander dragon unit you can control, something that may not be very clear from the screenshots of the game. Looks very neat.

Seems kind of like a fantasy themed xcom.

I'll keep my eye on this one. Thanks.

 

[Spazo]

Can someone explain me how the badge / card system works ?

I got the counter-strike first level badge by buying remaining card that I didn't received from drops.

Now to get level 2, I need to wait to receive a booster pack ? How long is it before receiving one?

I see people with level 5 badge. Did they buy all the cards ? What is the point of spending 10$+ on this ?

 

[woo and indeed hoo]

Dark Souls™: Prepare to Die Edition - $10.19 at GamersGate

Box art shows GFWL, but in the details it says

DRM:Steamworks (Requires a third-party download and account)
Activation:Must be activated on Steam

You know how a kick in the nuts feels? (I don't, but that's beside the point.) It's exactly like that, but worse. So not really exactly. But worse indeed.

Hm, I see.

Some people would pay good money to be kicked in the nuts you know?

I am not one of them :/.

Incidentally, my partner tells me that post war [WWII] when everyone was convinced that it was only a matter of time before the next war and they all had to be trained to fight, they were told to kick prone combatants in the nuts in the field of war to see if they were dead or not. The thinking being that with bullets flying around it was the quickest way to tell if they were dead or alive and thus worth getting shot at to save. Fair enough. My neighbour is training to be a nurse and is having her exam today on what to do if she encounters a prone body like that. I was tempted to give her this tip but I don't think the examiner would consider that correct protocol. Shame.

Seriously though, what exactly is the issue with GFWL, apart from the kicking in the nuts business.

EDIT - oh and it's as unpleasant an experience as you might imagine, by the way.

 

[73V3N]

Now to get level 2, I need to wait to receive a booster pack ? How long is it before receiving one?

I've not gotten one since this started... but maybe you are luckier.

 

[Spazo]

I've not gotten one since this started... but maybe you are luckier.

Ok... so people are buying the cards instead of waiting to receive a booster pack.

and how they make money out of it..?

 

[derExperte]

Ok... so people are buying the cards instead of waiting to receive a booster pack.

and how they make money out of it..?

By selling the cards instead of crafting badges of course. You can't do both.

 

[morningbus]

Hm, I see.

Some people would pay good money to be kicked in the nuts you know?

I am not one of them :/.

Incidentally, my partner tells me that post war [WWII] when everyone was convinced that it was only a matter of time before the next war and they all had to be trained to fight, they were told to kick prone combatants in the nuts in the field of war to see if they were dead or not. The thinking being that with bullets flying around it was the quickest way to tell if they were dead or alive and thus worth getting shot at to save. Fair enough. My neighbour is training to be a nurse and is having her exam today on what to do if she encounters a prone body like that. I was tempted to give her this tip but I don't think the examiner would consider that correct protocol. Shame.

Seriously though, what exactly is the issue with GFWL, apart from the kicking in the nuts business.

EDIT - oh and it's as unpleasant an experience as you might imagine, by the way.

GFWL is bad (and I'll give some reasons in a minute) but it isn't worth skipping Dark Souls over. There's good reason why we're cheering its death.

1) It's a dead service. It hasn't received an update in years.
2) It's matchmaking is pretty much mostly broken.
3) Issues abound with saves, regardless of game. (Make sure to enable the back-up feature in the Durante mod).
4) As Stump can attest, it may be incompatible with your home networking setup (this is a rare issue, but one that's been diagnosed, repeated, and ignored for years).

These issues shouldn't stop you from grabbing Dark Souls (realistically, the only issue you may encounter is with the matchmaking, but it should still work eventually).

 

[Boss Doggie]

Aren't GFWL games activatable in Steam?

 

[morningbus]

Aren't GFWL games activatable in Steam?

Any key can be made to activate on Steam (even retroactively if the Publisher/Developer chooses). GFWL keys are not inherently redeemable on Steam.

 

[Maxwood]

You know how a kick in the nuts feels? (I don't, but that's beside the point.) It's exactly like that, but worse. So not really exactly. But worse indeed.

I do know how that feels, with a tennis ball atleast.
Games For Windows Live is better. It's more like a mosquito. The thing is, mosquito's are extremely annoying, and can even be quite dangerous.

Once upon the time Norton was so bad it literally killed PCs. Now it's one, if not the best av software available and I recommend it to everyone who asks but old people like me still remember the dark times.

I'm not old enough for those experiences, thank goodness.
Can't really blaim people for ignoring Norton after stuff like that. I'd probably feel the same.

 

[Dinosur]

GFWL is bad (and I'll give some reasons in a minute) but it isn't worth skipping Dark Souls over. There's good reason why we're cheering its death.

It's also weird with passwords. My Live password worked just fine on 360 and junk hotmail account, but GFWL refused to let me login to its services until I changed it to something dumber.

 

[woo and indeed hoo]

GFWL is bad (and I'll give some reasons in a minute) but it isn't worth skipping Dark Souls over. There's good reason why we're cheering its death.

1) It's a dead service. It hasn't received an update in years.
2) It's matchmaking is pretty much mostly broken.
3) Issues abound with saves, regardless of game. (Make sure to enable the back-up feature in the Durante mod).
4) As Stump can attest, it may be incompatible with your home networking setup (this is a rare issue, but one that's been diagnosed, repeated, and ignored for years).

These issues shouldn't stop you from grabbing Dark Souls (realistically, the only issue you may encounter is with the matchmaking, but it should still work eventually).

Thank you morningbus. It does indeed sound like being kicked in the nuts! :/ Let's hope the rumours that it is being retired are true.

However, from what you've said there shouldn't be any reason for me not to pick up Dark Souls, especially at that price, so thanks for the encouragement.

 

[NaM]

Once upon the time Norton was so bad it literally killed PCs. Now it's one, if not the best av software available and I recommend it to everyone who asks but old people like me still remember the dark times.

I use MSE, I didn't know norton changed so much, still will never use, ever.

Spoiler

I feel old.

 

[SteveWinwood]

I use MSE, I didn't know norton changed so much, still will never use, ever.

Spoiler

I feel old.

omg mse tested bad that one time you should have switched i mean how computer illiterate are you

 

[tjohn86]

NOD32 4 lyfe!

 

[morningbus]

Thank you morningbus. It does indeed sound like being kicked in the nuts! :/ Let's hope the rumours that it is being retired are true.

However, from what you've said there shouldn't be any reason for me not to pick up Dark Souls, especially at that price, so thanks for the encouragement.

No problem! Make sure you use Durante's mod with the game. It's a must. (Also ignore the warning about the 60fps unlocker potentially leading to a GFWL ban - it's never happened and would require non-existent people to be at a surely-empty office actively looking for people who've unlocked the framerate)

omg mse tested bad that one time you should have switched i mean how computer illiterate are you

I use MSE and do all my sketchy internet shit in Linux on a separate partition. It's like a modern day version of Avatar.

 

[woo and indeed hoo]

No problem! Make sure you use Durante's mod with the game. It's a must. (Also ignore the warning about the 60fps unlocker potentially leading to a GFWL ban - it's never happened and would require non-existent people to be at a surely-empty office actively looking for people who've unlocked the framerate)

Will do, thanks .

*takes off tin foil hat and logs off DavidIcke.com*

 

[Grief.exe]

To help clear up any confusion: the game uses GFWL, but all its keys activate on Steam. Key activation is the only part of Steamworks the game uses.

It actually has cloud save built into the registry app, but they never got it implemented correctly.

Thank you morningbus. It does indeed sound like being kicked in the nuts! :/ Let's hope the rumours that it is being retired are true.

However, from what you've said there shouldn't be any reason for me not to pick up Dark Souls, especially at that price, so thanks for the encouragement.

Dark Souls is worth experiencing, even with GFWL.

The next game is looking to be pure Steamworks, no GFWL in sight.

 

[morningbus]

It actually has cloud save built into the registry app, but they never got it implemented correctly.

Weird. I'm kind of glad they didn't implement it, though. If GFWL's saves mess up, Steam Cloud can exacerbate the problem by syncing an empty file with the cloud (like it did for me for Arkham City).

 

[woo and indeed hoo]

It actually has cloud save built into the registry app, but they never got it implemented correctly.



Dark Souls is worth experiencing, even with GFWL.

The next game is looking to be pure Steamworks, no GFWL in sight.

Message received and understood cap'n.

Also it's being developed with the pc as the lead platform I understand so it's a win win!

 

[Syphon Filter]

Don't see why people are still worried about gfwl, no one will use it anymore,it's dead.

 

[HoosTrax]

Don't see why people are still worried about gfwl, no one will use it anymore,it's dead.

As dead as my Flatout UC save game progress when the XBL/GFWL servers went down a few months ago. If only if were possible for me to pretend like it doesn't exist.

 

[morningbus]

Don't see why people are still worried about gfwl, no one will use it anymore,it's dead.

We still worry about it because good games are still trapped in a prison fashioned out of shit.

If anything, we are now even more worried because that shit-brick and turd-mortar prison is collapsing and its inmates are still inside.

 

[Out_Of_Ammo]

We still worry about it because good games are still trapped in a prison fashioned out of shit.

If anything, we are now even more worried because that shit and turd-mortar prison is collapsing and its inmates are still inside.

I just tried to imagine that for real. Made me laugh, so thanks for that.

 

[morningbus]

I just tried to imagine that for real. Made me laugh, so thanks for that.

If you like that, may I suggest some of my other work, such as:

My high school band's song Fighting For Our Lives, which features this in the lyrics:

Imagine a man in a forest
Now Imagine him on fire
If you laughed at that, my friend you are heartless.

 

[kaskade]

I can't wait for the sale. I finally need to get Bioshock.

 

[Grief.exe]

I can't wait for the sale. I finally need to get Bioshock.

Good time to get the whole series with System Shock 2 now available and BioShock 2 getting cleaned up.

Weird. I'm kind of glad they didn't implement it, though. If GFWL's saves mess up, Steam Cloud can exacerbate the problem by syncing an empty file with the cloud (like it did for me for Arkham City).

That was my theory as well. I'm sure they ran into issues with GFWL.

 

[Glix]

Dark Souls™: Prepare to Die Edition - $10.19 at GamersGate

Box art shows GFWL, but in the details it says

DRM:Steamworks (Requires a third-party download and account)
Activation:Must be activated on Steam

FUCK YES. I've been looking for a good sale on this for about a month. Thank you so much just grabbed it and DSfix.

Someone should let Durante know his Download link on the DSfix blog is broken.

 

[morningbus]

FUCK YES. I've been looking for a good sale on this for about a month. Thank you so much just grabbed it and DSfix.

Someone should let Durante know his Download link on the DSfix blog is broken.

The current DSfix is always available here, too: http://darksouls.nexusmods.com/mods/19/?

 

[Glix]

The current DSfix is always available here, too: http://darksouls.nexusmods.com/mods/19/?

Nope. They all took me to an error page as well. Although I was able to find it with google-fu

 

[woo and indeed hoo]

I can't wait for the sale. I finally need to get Bioshock.

I just played the Steam Bioshock demo last night for the first time and now have multiple fingers crossed that it is in the Steam Sale at a really keen price .

Good time to get the whole series with System Shock 2 now available and BioShock 2 getting cleaned up.

May I ask what you mean by that Mr .exe?

 

[derExperte]

StarDrive is the daily deal, 50% off. http://store.steampowered.com/app/220660/

 

[morningbus]

May I ask what you mean by that Mr .exe?

Grief has been watching the Bioshock 2 entry of the Steam registry and has noticed it is being updated. It also recently got Steam achievements which are not yet active.

Everything else is an assumption that GFWL is being removed and Steam is being subbed in. It's a good assumption, but there hasn't been anything officially announced yet.

 

[fokkusu]

May I ask what you mean by that Mr .exe?

GFWL off?

 

[MMBosstones86]

Now I'm having a hard time determining if GFWL is better or worse than Serious Sam.

What if Serious Sam had GFWL??

 

[morningbus]

What if Serious Sam had GFWL??

It'd be proof that there is not only no God but that there is only the Devil.

 

[Geoff9920]

StarDrive is the daily deal, 50% off. http://store.steampowered.com/app/220660/

Is that the 4x game that was developed by one guy?

 

[woo and indeed hoo]

Grief has been watching the Bioshock 2 entry of the Steam registry and has noticed it is being updated. It also recently got Steam achievements which are not yet active.

Everything else is an assumption that GFWL is being removed and Steam is being subbed in. It's a good assumption, but there hasn't been anything officially announced yet.

GFWL off?

Oh I see, thanks .

 

[v0rtikal]

and what if they just added Steam achievements to Bioshock 2...?
Batman Arkham City is a good example, you get both GFWL and Steam achievements.