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[LiquidMetal14]

I just got this feeling,
this feeling in my feathers,
that only a Dr. Bird would get,
That it's 6 GB .

justmyopinion mang.

With all the stuff people hear from devs, it corroborate memory not being an issue. Numbers aren't final and I can't further elaborate but the memory has always been touted as being plentiful and very fast on PS4.

 

[inpHilltr8r]

It would compile but it would crash and burn when you ran it on the PS4.

Not actually writing to the null pointer you got back from new means that the program will just complete silently. Even if you did, it's up to the OS to decide what to do when you write to protected memory, which NULL usually is.

 

[BigDug13]

I dont think this is a big issue. I mean the Xbox One is doing the same thing, but with slower memory. Both consoles are suppose to be these mass market devices. Implying there has to be resources dedicated to, perhaps, a more reliable user exerpeince than hardcore gamers need. I still feel like its a lot of very fast ram for devs.

But by the same token, very fast expensive video RAM is a lot to waste on OS.

 

[Vashetti]

I endorse this post because Digital Foundry has yet to obtain a launch system with REAL games in order to do actual tests.

Exactly.

DF is all about page clicks.

 

[amstradcpc]

What is clear is this gen hard disks are going to die like there is no tomorrow with constant game saving and virtual memories.

 

[Jonboy]

6gb!!! Quick everyone, pre-order before you miss out! Greatness awaits!

Smh. So disappointed with some ppl here over the past few days.

 

[Bam Bam Baklava]

What is clear is this gen hard disks are going to die like there is no tomorrow with constant game saving and virtual memories.

All about swapping in those SSD's

 

[SuperSonic1305]

What is clear is this gen hard disks are going to die like there is no tomorrow with constant game saving and virtual memories.

Infinite power of the cloud.

 

[DragonSworne]

why ban Digital Foundry what have they done? they provide a lot of unbias information to the community. let's not forget they basically called the xbox one a dvr in January

Digital Foundry was completely wrong on the time PS4 records gameplay, they said it's only 7 minutes.

Digital Foundry did a Xbox one head2head with PS4 and used said PS4 only had 4GB of GDDR5 RAM even though it was wildly rumored and accepted that it had 8 GB of GDDR5 RAM when they published their article. They later tried to recon their story saying they knew it had 8GB along but never reported it...

All in all, Digital Foundry and Eurogramer keep jumping through hoops and ignoring logic to male the Xbox one look as best as possible against the PS4. It's gotten to the point where we should question how credible the sites are

 

[Templar_Dante]

Can we please ban Eurogamer and digital Foundry after this nonsense?

Their fanboy articles against PS4 trying to spread FUD is getting pathetic.

MS moneyhats can net more than timed exclusives...
I agree with you. Ban them. Im sick of their fraudulent news littering the front page.

 

[Guymelef]

What is clear is this gen hard disks are going to die like there is no tomorrow with constant game saving and virtual memories.

What about Home DVRs working 24/7?

 

[smokeandmirrors]

It would compile but it would crash and burn when you ran it on the PS4.

I know I was being entirely too sarcastic for my own good, I think.

 

[Raytow]

Can someone do a wall of shame for the carnival of stupid part quatre?

 

[iamshadowlark]

i doubt it's anything about ram allocation he'll be breaking a NDA..

It may not be hard numbers but I'm pretty sure it would be about the articles at hand.

 

[Chumpion]

In brief, the PS4 ram usage is
4.5GB physical + 0.5 GB virtual (page swap in hard disk).

Is there anything wrong ?

Only everything.

Best guess (well, my best guess) for RAM allocated to games right now is...

physical: 6.5 GB + anything left over from OS and apps
virtual: unlimited

With the physical memory divided into 6 GB of direct and 0.5 GB of flexible memory.

This flexible memory thing sounds like a smart approach - even older games benefit from OS optimization, as more of flexible memory can be kept in physical RAM (e.g., reducing load times). So the amount of direct memory need not be increased.

 

[SEGAvangelist]

Can someone do a wall of shame for the carnival of stupid part quatre?

Too many posts on both sides. These threads have seriously delivered. Luv NeoGAF.

 

[AyaisMUsikWhore]

Quit and switch? As if gamers are more sane on the other side?

Well, I love Sony and all but everything recently has been so controversial for them and developers who are associated with them. Though MS is trying to bring itself up from the shithole they put themselves in, its awfully quiet on their end as everyone is trying to get information from people associated with Sony about everything. Whether it be MS situation and Sony's all together. I'm just saying. I'm not saying Xbox fans aren't bad either because if anything, they are the most gullible out of ALL fanboys.

 

[chris0701]

Why don't the BIRD just fuck the DF's original statement about 4.5+0.5 figure is complete wrong ? Why Sony didn't comment on DF's figure , just correct how the flexible ram is pretty efficient ?

 

[LiquidMetal14]

If that RCR dev notes anything contradicting this, that needs its own thread. Too much lunacy around here over nothing and it's sad that clarification is even needed over a yet to be released platform still going through fine turning.

There is nothing I can contribute about this until I know more. Numbers can change.

Why don't the BIRD just fuck the DF's original statement about 4.5+0.5 figure is complete wrong ? Why Sony didn't comment on DF's figure , just correct how the flexible ram is pretty efficient ?

This has been asked like 40 times or more over the last 3 threads. No one including Sony is even required to say anything about this. Especially right now.

 

[cLOUDo]

i want a change title

 

[Krusenstern]

Edit: Nevermind.

 

[Raytow]

Too many posts on both sides. These threads have seriously delivered. Luv NeoGAF.

Have faith, someone has to deliver the internet crow.

 

[imtehman]

so it went from 5.5gb guaranteed with 1gb flex to 4.5gb guarenteed to .5 flex to 6gb guaranteed with .5 flex?

this thread lol

 

[Ryuuga]

Summary:

 

[lordchompy]

I like how people keep saying something to the effect of 'we now have 6GB of RAM to work with,' as if they themselves were developing the games.

6GB, 5GB; just play the damn games and judge the textures when you see them.

Remember the days when console gamers didn't care so much, or even know about hardware specs? It's like for a few months Gafers the world over become PC hardware experts and act like they're upgrading their rigs. Both consoles are close enough in hardware strength to make the differences negligible.

 

[beast786]

How can this be not disappointing. we went from 7 to 4.5?

I am still buying ps4 day one. But , being half of what I thought Naughty gods had to play with is disappointing. personally I don't care for fancy OS. just give me best eye candy on the games in open world

 

[Finalizer]

All in all, Digital Foundry and Eurogramer keep jumping through hoops and ignoring logic to male the Xbox one look as best as possible against the PS4. It's gotten to the point where we should question how credible the sites are

Honestly, I see it mostly isolated to DF, and to Leadbetter in particular. Fuck's sake, the EG article for when Defense Grid was revealed for Games with Gold had a smug Jack Tretton for the respective article pic.

 

[Guymelef]

Why don't the BIRD just fuck the DF's original statement about 4.5+0.5 figure is complete wrong ? Why Sony didn't comment on DF's figure , just correct how the flexible ram is pretty efficient ?

Yesterday he didn't know numbers, obviously now he has fresh info.

 

[chris0701]

So ur saying those guys with real names and sites have never been wrong before??

Their recent missed report is the PS4 game recording time, right ?

 

[TheRealTalker]

Title Change

after this whole mess I believe the OP title should be changed to reflect "DF sorcerors and their unholy army of Salmon and Bears exiled as Sony Rams charges down on them in bathtubs"

 

[SEGAvangelist]

Summary:

Perfect lol

 

[AyaisMUsikWhore]

Summary:

Lmao! Where do you find these gifs!? LOL!

 

[MrDaravon]

I've only been loosely following these threads and the back and forth of news and updates, I have no idea how outraged I should be!

 

[hydrophilic attack]

This thread is fun!

Carry on

 

[DragonSworne]

Sony isn't going to can bounce hard number yet because MS might plan on changing their RAM figures in response.

Sony wants MS to screw themselves by dedicating too much RAM to their bloated 3 OS causing their games to be gimped.

Sony is playing it smart, Eurogamer is playing it dumb.

 

[Lion Heart]

3 posts in 4 years.

Truly these threads are something special.

Dem alt accounts are really poppin up lately.

 

[NoirVisage]

At this point, ANY piece of info from DF with Leadbetter's fingerprints on it should be flushed down an airplane toilet.

 

[amstradcpc]

What about Home DVRs working 24/7?

The HD heads dont jump like crazy from one sector to another on those.

 

[imtehman]

How can this be not disappointing. we went from 7 to 4.5?

I am still buying ps4 day one. But , being half of what I thought Naughty gods had to play with is disappointing. personally I don't care for fancy OS. just give me best eye candy on the games in open world

seriously, get a PC sheesh.

I like the OS stuff. I love watching netflix on my consoles, all these extra bells and whistles that they can think up with is going to be awesome.

 

[harrypmgaga]

Digital Foundry...

GAF of all sites should know better. P)

 

[terrdactycalsrock]

But by the same token, very fast expensive video RAM is a lot to waste on OS.

Thats true. I mean I guess if I had to complain it would be how homogenized both consoles are. Both systems dedicate 4 gigs ( give or take) of ram to the OS. From what I hear both systems are based on the same APU. Both dedicates 2 Jaguer cores to the OS. I know the PS4 is a bit more powerful, and the Xbox One might either have eDRM or eSRAM. But it just feels like Im being offered the same packaged by two different people. I dont think power has ever made a big difference in consoles anyways. It just seems like devs make games for the lowest common denominator. Unless your first party or just exclusive. In a lot of ways the most important thing this gen, the biggest selling points, are policies. How do you handle your subscription model? What apps are going to be for download, and are they free? Whats your stance on indie development? That sort of thing.

 

[Lifesontheline]

It may not be hard numbers but I'm pretty sure it would be about the articles at hand.

that is true

 

[chris0701]

Yesterday he didn't know numbers, obviously now he has fresh news.

Figure that didn't happen in Sony's mind?

IMO, MS never comment on 5GB Xbone ram usage but everyone takes it as confirmation now.
The way Sony didn't address the hard number is really interesting.

The flexible ram explanation from Sony is worse than I thought, it is a virtual ram instead of physical one.

 

[Anhkow]

6 GB? FUCK!

Is it too late to get my pre-order back?!?!

 

[JonathanPower]

Why don't the BIRD just fuck the DF's original statement about 4.5+0.5 figure is complete wrong ? Why Sony didn't comment on DF's figure , just correct how the flexible ram is pretty efficient ?

But now we also have a dev saying clearly the article is false and ridiculous. I think that's enough confirmation, ultil we hear something official from Sony.

 

[Chamber]

How can this be not disappointing. we went from 7 to 4.5?

I am still buying ps4 day one. But , being half of what I thought Naughty gods had to play with is disappointing. personally I don't care for fancy OS. just give me best eye candy on the games in open world

Well PS4 has flexible RAM. That seems to mean that it's 4.5 GB if you're buying Xbox One this fall and 6 GB if you plan to purchase PS4. I imagine ND are PS4 fans so we should get 6 GB of goodness from their next adventure.

Pre-orders back on.

 

[amstradcpc]

Title Change

after this whole mess I believe the OP title should be changed to reflect "DF sorcerors and their unholy army of Salmon and Bears exiled as Sony Rams charges down on them in bathtubs"

That sounds almost like shakespearean.

 

[Raytow]

Is that Good Fellas or some other movie? either way I have to watch it.

 

[prwxv3]

Honestly, I see it mostly isolated to DF, and to Leadbetter in particular. Fuck's sake, the EG article for when Defense Grid was revealed for Games with Gold had a smug Jack Tretton for the respective article pic.

Hahahah oh wow

 

[Yawnier]

Is that Good Fellas or some other movie? either way I have to watch it.

Yes that's Goodfellas.