That's not his Twitter, it's a fake. He's a consultant, and CEO of Cerny Games. He said he likes not being a Sony employee because it means that he doesn't have to worry about having people to be responsible for.
He gets hate because the people who pay him put him in a position to get hate.
Larry once said that they couldn't just flip a switch and turn the Xbox One into an offline console, it was designed to be online. Yet, here we are.
People hate bullshit. This isn't news.
A shill would be someone like you, only you aren't even being paid for it. Major Nelson's checks are actually paid by MS.
Herb is a mouthpiece, that's his job. That's all he does.
I can't believe people don't see the difference between Herb and Cerny.
Herb is a mouthpiece, that's his job. That's all he does. He exists to promote and sell things to people. He is dishonest, disingenuous, and has a penchant for stretching the truth and even lying to make this happen.
Cerny is a developer, he builds games and in this recent case was the architect of the ps4. When he speaks he is clear about his intentions and comes off genuine. He doesn't just exist to sell you the product, he exists to create the product and inform you and developers about it.
So, on-topic, it looks like XB1 is going to have community mods. That's both interesting and a little terrifying. I gather MMOs do this quite a bit. does it work, or is it always a disaster?
So, on-topic, it looks like XB1 is going to have community mods. That's both interesting and a little terrifying. I gather MMOs do this quite a bit. does it work, or is it always a disaster?
this x1000 people who compare cerny with this tool are crazy
So, on-topic, it looks like XB1 is going to have community mods. That's both interesting and a little terrifying. I gather MMOs do this quite a bit. does it work, or is it always a disaster?
He designed the console and is doing an exclusive game for free?
That's impressive.
Not comparing persons, but comparing their roles to the public. Keep being offensive though, hope it helps.
On the plus side it does look like reputation scores themselves are scored for accuracy, so each mod will end up with a sliding scale of reliability. Also seems like one or even a few people can't really force an account to take a nosedive or lose their gamertag. And it also seems like all the community mods themselves are just a check to balance the algorithms already running and presumably doing the lionshare of the work.So, on-topic, it looks like XB1 is going to have community mods. That's both interesting and a little terrifying. I gather MMOs do this quite a bit. does it work, or is it always a disaster?
So, on-topic, it looks like XB1 is going to have community mods. That's both interesting and a little terrifying. I gather MMOs do this quite a bit. does it work, or is it always a disaster?
Uh... not really. Common misconception, though.
Correct analysis. MS really needs someone like Cerny, but first they need to ditch the nonsense and start being honest to their customers.
oh..you again keep the good fight buddy
He gets information, it was wrong. I've seen plenty of people say a ton of shit that was wrong. Didn't Sony say it wouldn't ever charge for MP?
Either way, it's a GAF thread about MS, shouldn't have expected any less.
Disagree;
They are adding achievements for TV related stuff; as previously announced.
Wow. I guess Cerny isn't there to sell me anything. Are you serious? You don't think Cerny is trying to sell us the PS4 which he helped design? OK. Herb is of course a mouthpiece, EVERY person that works for these companies is in one way or another, but he actually enjoys the games. If he likes something, he's usually played it or is actually excited.
So you're saying Sony is paying people on Gaf to attack Microsoft threads?
...or you're saying they're shills that aren't getting paid?
Major Nelson IS PR.<open outlook email from Microsoft PR>
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--Major Nelson
He has spoke about things he is directly involved in, unlike Larry. Do you think Major Nelson was involved in the making of the Xbox One hardware?Don't diminish his role w/ Sony; he has spoken for them, been on Jimmy Fallon for them...he is their mothpiece. They haven't used anyone else in that role really, so he has been it.
Sure, but here's the deal, Sony doesn't have a face like Microsoft does. Larry acts, and has been acting for years, as the middleman between corporate Microsoft and its consumers in the gaming side. So, naturally, people will sling shit at him when he gets information that turns out to be bogus and when his employer has managed to anger millions of consumers with their new console and policies.
Mark Cerny isn't all about just selling a system and Sony's policies like Major Nelson is. Mark Cerny actually gives crystal clear info, and the reasons why he designed the PS4 the way he did, or why he's making an everybody game.
They both have products to push, but Mark Cerny doesn't come off as a salesman like Major Nelson does. Cerny isn't fake, and comes off far more genuine. Major Nelson will play both sides of the fence (Before and after 180) and feed you a bunch of bullshit that paints both sides as golden.
I don't know anyone who trusts what Major Nelson has to say, but I haven't heard anyone say Mark Cerny is untrustworthy, and comes of fake like Major Nelson definately does. So, one has earned respect, and the other gets made fun of for being the joke that he's become
Can you guess who gets the Joke award?
Wow. I guess Cerny isn't there to sell me anything. Are you serious? You don't think Cerny is trying to sell us the PS4 which he helped design? OK. Herb is of course a mouthpiece, EVERY person that works for these companies is in one way or another, but he actually enjoys the games. If he likes something, he's usually played it or is actually excited.
True, but achievements for TV and other media/app stuff do not earn you gamer score. They will be segregating everything else from games, so any and all achievement hunters have naught to fear but those blasted multiplayer achievements.
S¡mon;74241219 said:It would have been a more believable 'personal blog post' if it didn't look like copied marketing material.
Good point. For that topic. But for this article none of that is relevant. You can only work with the news you have.
He has spoke about things he is directly involved in, unlike Larry. Do you think Major Nelson was involved in the making of the Xbox One hardware?
Sure; but why add them to begin with. What is the purpose of achievements for watching 30 movies; or whatever? I guess they could give you one for every single movie you watch, if you wanted to show off how much a movie buff you are, but it still seems like a weird addition.
Mark Cerny isn't all about just selling a system and Sony's policies like Major Nelson is. Mark Cerny actually gives crystal clear info, and the reasons why he designed the PS4 the way he did, or why he's making an everybody game.
They both have products to push, but Mark Cerny doesn't come off as a salesman like Major Nelson does. Cerny isn't fake, and comes off far more genuine. Major Nelson will play both sides of the fence (Before and after 180) and feed you a bunch of bullshit that paints both sides as golden.
I don't know anyone who trusts what Major Nelson has to say, but I haven't heard anyone say Mark Cerny is untrustworthy, and comes of fake like Major Nelson definately does. So, one has earned respect, and the other gets made fun of for being the joke that he's become
Can you guess who gets the Joke award?
He was directly involved in making the PS4 and has went on Fallon to hype the shit out of it. He is the go to because there isn't anyone else doing it for Sony like Nelson. Nelson is paid to do what he does; Cerny was paid to be the lead for the PS4 so why is he on Fallon hyping the PS4?
Cerny went on Fallon because he is the Director for Knack. He isn't a PR mouthpiece like Major Nelson, he isn't told what to say.He was directly involved in making the PS4 and has went on Fallon to hype the shit out of it. He is the go to because there isn't anyone else doing it for Sony like Nelson. Nelson is paid to do what he does; Cerny was paid to be the lead for the PS4 so why is he on Fallon hyping the PS4?
S¡mon;74241219 said:It would have been a more believable 'personal blog post' if it didn't look like copied marketing material.
who gives a shit. It's giving us information...
people are so negative and jaded to any Xbox related info
Sure; but why add them to begin with. What is the purpose of achievements for watching 30 movies; or whatever? I guess they could give you one for every single movie you watch, if you wanted to show off how much a movie buff you are, but it still seems like a weird addition.
Cerny went on Fallon because he is the Director for Knack. He isn't a PR mouthpiece like Major Nelson, he isn't told what to say.
I don't think Sony intended for Cerny to be the one promoting the console like he has been. They probably saw that he had a very warm reception at the reveal and went from there.
He does what he wants to do. If he doesn't, he's got the wrong job.Let's not take a shit on the guy for doing his job.... I'm not mad at him.. He has to do what he has to do...
Its not really a personal blog post though...its cross posted on Xbox.com. Major Nelson's "blog" has never really been a personal blog. Its always news about things Xbox/XBL related.
Major Nelson seems like the cliche old guy gamer who tries too hard to be an equal to his fanbase. It's like he's clinically studying us and cloning our behavior.
So you're saying Cerny is better at feeding you PR?
Framing it to sound like it's his personal opinion is where people are taking issue.
Cerny went on Fallon because he is the Director for Knack. He isn't a PR mouthpiece like Major Nelson, he isn't told what to say.