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PapaJustify

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phosphor112 said:
So, using the example they have given, if someone in Japan purchased a console from Germany, they can still use the console and log in using their Japan account. But.. this is where it gets confusing. It seems like they only have a select number (13) of "locales" for their XBL info retrieval for the store. Does that mean that they would have to have one of those 13 locale addresses and billing address?

Can someone clarify?
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They need a valid billing address and payment instrument from one of the 13 launch locales to purchase content from the marketplace. The console won't be available in any other language than the one they chose for their locale. But other than that the console is fully functional.
 
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medze

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Ardenyal said:
I wonder.. would you be able to put your billing address as McD from one of the supported countries and still be able to buy stuff from the store with your credit card?
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Your billing address has to match the information on your credit card, like any purchase anywhere.
 
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Casimir

Unconfirmed Member
FinKL said:
I like how the user is a she/her. Easier to type as opposed to he/she or the customer is my guess.
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I have to guess that the cboat document was hastily adopted from a more personal answer. I assume for official release documents the more ambiguous "They" and "User" will be used.


medze said:
Your billing address has to match the information on your credit card, like any purchase anywhere.
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lol, no.
 
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phosphor112

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Garrett 2U said:
You can live in Japan, buy a console from wherever, use your Japan XBL account.
When you want to buy content from a marketplace you either need a payment method from that locale, or, more conveniently, you can use your pre-paid credit.
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How do we know that Japan is one of the Locales? That's what I'm asking really.

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PapaJustify said:
They need a valid billing address and payment instrument from one of the 13 launch locales to purchase content from the marketplace. The console won't be available in any other language than the one they chose for their locale. But other than that the console is fully functional.
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This was my impression. Meaning anyone who buys a console and uses it out of "Locale" can't buy anything.
 
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Casimir

Unconfirmed Member
medze said:
http://support.xbox.com/en-US/billing-and-subscriptions/account-management/xbox-live-credit-card-authorization-failure

First solution to recieving a credit card error when making a purchase on Xbox Live

"Make sure the billing address for your Xbox LIVE or Zune account matches the billing address used by your credit card company."

so... lol, yes
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medze said:
Your billing address has to match the information on your credit card, like any purchase anywhere.
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Garrett 2U

Member
phosphor112 said:
How do we know that Japan is one of the Locales? That's what I'm asking really.

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This was my impression. Meaning anyone who buys a console and uses it out of "Locale" can't buy anything.
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You would need to know one of the available languages.

So say you know English, you could select it, then select the US, then buy US microsoft points from Amazon, add them to your Japan account to use on the US marketplace.
 
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medze

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Casimir said:
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I'd like you to point me to some online retailers that allow you to use a different billing address than the one on file for the credit card you are using. I'll save you the work and tell you there aren't any. Hence why it is called "billing address".
 
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Delusibeta

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medze said:
I'd like you to point me to some online retailers that allow you to use a different billing address than the one on file for the credit card you are using. I'll save you the work and tell you there aren't any. Hence why it is called "billing address".
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I'm thinking more "this sort of thing is where PayPal would come in handy".
 
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Casimir

Unconfirmed Member
medze said:
I'd like you to point me to some online retailers that allow you to use a different billing address than the one on file for the credit card you are using. I'll save you the work and tell you there aren't any. Hence why it is called "billing address".
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oops. Read that as shipping for some reason.
 
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dragonbane

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There is the positive XB1 news people. Also, everyone that still doubted him looks clueless now.

And the best thing: More news next week!
 
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Casimir

Unconfirmed Member
dragonbane said:
There is the positive XB1 news people. Also, everyone that still doubted him looks clueless now.

And the best thing: More news next week!
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Only if Cboat leaks more positive Xbox One news. If not, the same regulars in the TRUTHFACT thread will continue to throw a fit.
 
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m23

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Did he give any hints as to what next week's news is even regarding? Games, apps, launch? Or is he leaking gamescom news before Gamescom?
 
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dragonbane

Member
Casimir said:
Only if Cboat leaks more positive Xbox One news. If not, the same regulars in the TRUTHFACT thread will continue to throw a fit.
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Probably yeah. But this document looks very legit. So still useful to disprove those that said that he is just someone that runs with rumours he read somewhere on the internet.
 
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dragonbane

Member
nib95 said:
Can someone summarise what's in the OP?
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"Small bits for Europe:

Not the news for next week no. Just something that crossed my desk, thx anonymous gaffer friend!

See you next week!"

Document talks about that XBL account country setting won't be used anymore in the future. Everything is displayed according to the country you choose in the XB1 directly. You can change your country at any time and how often you want. No region locking. If you import the console, since you are not in a launch country, you can download the Day 1 patch and use the console without problems. However, you can only select languages and countries that are currently available at launch. No IP checks for the marketplace, so if you live in Sweden you can select UK as your country and buy from the marketplace. However, you need an UK address to buy something with your credit card.

Certain apps will impose IP checks just like Xbox 360. That's pretty much it.
 
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nib95

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dragonbane said:
"Small bits for Europe:

Not the news for next week no. Just something that crossed my desk, thx anonymous gaffer friend!

See you next week!"

Document talks about that XBL account country setting won't be used anymore in the future. Everything is displayed according to the country you choose in the XB1 directly. You can change your country at any time and how often you want. No region locking. If you import the console, since you are not in a launch country, you can download the Day 1 patch and use the console without problems. However, you can only select languages and countries that are currently available at launch. No IP checks for the marketplace, so if you live in Sweden you can select UK as your country and buy from the marketplace. However, you need an UK address to buy something with your credit card.

Certain apps will impose IP checks just like Xbox 360. That's pretty much it.
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Cool, sounds pretty good actually! Cheers for the summary dude.

So theoretically, can people from the countries (Tier 2/3 etc) buy an Xbox One, and just play imported foreign games on it? Eg a UK XO and import UK games, set up a UK account. And then later switch it to a Swedish account when the console releases in that country?
 
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Hrothgar

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Why do I have the feeling Cboat is lifting us up only to drop us down again next week?

Good news for people wanting to import atleast.
 
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dragonbane

Member
nib95 said:
Cool, sounds pretty good actually! Cheers for the summary dude.

So theoretically, can people from the countries (Tier 2/3 etc) buy an Xbox One, and just play imported foreign games on it? Eg a UK XO and import UK games, set up a UK account. And then later switch it to a Swedish account when the console releases in that country?
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Yes, that should work. Discs would always work I assume, but digital as well.

So you can:

-Buy XB1 in UK
-Travel to Germany and buy some German XB1 games
-Return to Sweden and unpack your console (needs power adapter lol)
-Download the Day 1 patch without problems
-Set Spain as your country, since you can speak Spanish
-Log in with your Japanese XBL account you created for fun
-Dash and Marketplace is still displayed in Spanish
-Buy games from the Spanish marketplace using a fake address in Spain (probably won't work with a credit card)
-Download and play those games and those you bought from Germany without problems in Sweden
-Kinect voice control is obviously in Spanish
-When you travel to your friend in the UK you can play all your games on his console too as long as you are logged in
-When you travel to your friend in Germany, you won't be able to download Dead Rising 3, since they decided to ban it for whatever reason. However, if you bring your own console, you can still play it as long as it is downloaded and installed

-Once XB1 launches in Sweden, you can change your country to Sweden, enjoy Swedish Kinect controls, buy from the Swedish marketplace and still play the games you bought in Germany and from the Spanish store (includes DLC)


Sounds pretty reasonable lol
 
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Raist

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medze said:
I'd like you to point me to some online retailers that allow you to use a different billing address than the one on file for the credit card you are using. I'll save you the work and tell you there aren't any. Hence why it is called "billing address".
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Amazon.
 
LiquidMetal14

LiquidMetal14

hide your water-based mammals
dragonbane said:
Yes, that should work. Discs would always work I assume, but digital as well.

So you can:

-Buy XB1 in UK
-Travel to Germany and buy some German XB1 games
-Return to Sweden and unpack your console (needs power adapter lol)
-Download the Day 1 patch without problems
-Set Spain as your country, since you can speak Spanish
-Log in with your Japanese XBL account you created for fun
-Dash and Marketplace is still displayed in Spanish
-Buy games from the Spanish marketplace using a fake address in Spain (no 100% on that, but should work)
-Download and play those games and those you bought from Germany without problems in Sweden
-Kinect voice control is obviously in Spanish
-When you travel to your friend in the UK you can download all your games on his console too and play them as long as you are logged in
-When you travel to your friend in Germany, you won't be able to download Dead Rising 3, since they decided to ban it for whatever reason. However, if you bring your own console, you can still play it as long as it is downloaded and installed
-Once XB1 launches in Sweden, you can change the country to Sweden, enjoy Swedish Kinect controls, buy from the Swedish marketplace and still play your games you bought in Germany and from the Spain store


Sounds pretty reasonable lol
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It's both good and sad in some ways. But, like many other systems, it should work fine in other regions since it's not region locked.
 
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Despera

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dragonbane said:
Yes, that should work. Discs would always work I assume, but digital as well.

So you can:

-Buy XB1 in UK
-Travel to Germany and buy some German XB1 games
-Return to Sweden and unpack your console (needs power adapter lol)
-Download the Day 1 patch without problems
-Set Spain as your country, since you can speak Spanish
-Log in with your Japanese XBL account you created for fun
-Dash and Marketplace is still displayed in Spanish
-Buy games from the Spanish marketplace using a fake address in Spain (no 100% on that, but should work)
-Download and play those games and those you bought from Germany without problems in Sweden
-Kinect voice control is obviously in Spanish
-When you travel to your friend in the UK you can download all your games on his console too and play them as long as you are logged in
-When you travel to your friend in Germany, you won't be able to download Dead Rising 3, since they decided to ban it for whatever reason. However, if you bring your own console, you can still play it as long as it is downloaded and installed
-Once XB1 launches in Sweden, you can change the country to Sweden, enjoy Swedish Kinect controls, buy from the Swedish marketplace and still play your games you bought in Germany and from the Spain store


Sounds pretty reasonable lol
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So if I set one of my accounts' language/country to Japan, I should be able to enjoy downloading and playing all the Japanese games, unless it is banned in my country?
 
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Stumpokapow

listen to the mad man
dragonbane said:
-When you travel to your friend in Germany, you won't be able to download Dead Rising 3, since they decided to ban it for whatever reason. However, if you bring your own console, you can still play it as long as it is downloaded and installed
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You're missing that your friend can switch his console's locale away from German and then the two of you will play DR3 no problem.
 
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SwiftDeath

Member
DMPrince said:
speaking of switching. what about bans in certain countries like censoring certain things. does this bypass that.
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A lot of censoring is done on the game disc itself so not sure what you're referring to?

I.E. Australia is getting it's own version of Saints Row IV (if only slightly gimped)

Edit: Just realized it might mean you can switch to the US XBL and download the uncensored verision

Or at least with this system I think you can
 
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dragonbane

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Despera said:
So if I set one of my accounts' language/country to Japan, I should be able to enjoy downloading and playing all the Japanese games, unless it is banned in my country?
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Your XBL account settings don't matter anymore. Only the setting in the XB1 itself matters. You should be able to select Japan as your country and buy Japan only games from the Japanese marketplace using your American XBL account yes. Obviously you need to figure out a way to navigate your console and the marketplace, as everything would be displayed in Japanese. Even Kinect would only accept Japanese input. If you manage to find the stuff you want in the marketplace, set up a fake address in Japan and buy the games you want. Then download them and change your country back to America.

This should work. Two requirements though: XB1 needs to launch in Japan (2014/2015?) and obviously we don't know if there are going to be any Japan only games at all.


Stumpokapow said:
You're missing that your friend can switch his console's locale away from German and then the two of you will play DR3 no problem.
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That's true of course lol
 
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nib95

Banned
dragonbane said:
Yes, that should work. Discs would always work I assume, but digital as well.

So you can:

-Buy XB1 in UK
-Travel to Germany and buy some German XB1 games
-Return to Sweden and unpack your console (needs power adapter lol)
-Download the Day 1 patch without problems
-Set Spain as your country, since you can speak Spanish
-Log in with your Japanese XBL account you created for fun
-Dash and Marketplace is still displayed in Spanish
-Buy games from the Spanish marketplace using a fake address in Spain (no 100% on that, but should work)
-Download and play those games and those you bought from Germany without problems in Sweden
-Kinect voice control is obviously in Spanish
-When you travel to your friend in the UK you can play all your games on his console too as long as you are logged in
-When you travel to your friend in Germany, you won't be able to download Dead Rising 3, since they decided to ban it for whatever reason. However, if you bring your own console, you can still play it as long as it is downloaded and installed

-Once XB1 launches in Sweden, you can change your country to Sweden, enjoy Swedish Kinect controls, buy from the Swedish marketplace and still play the games you bought in Germany and from the Spanish store (includes DLC)


Sounds pretty reasonable lol
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All sounds right expect buying. You won't be able to just make up a billing address during purchsses. It would have to match the address your credit or debit card was registered to.

One way you could do it is buy foreign points cards off eBay (using paypal) from the country your XBL account is registered, and use the codes.
 
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jaypah

Member
This sounds reasonable, nice even. I'm in MS's Princess Palace (USA Tier-GoldStar) but this rocks for others and people who move around a lot. The CBOAT rides again! Thanks CBOAT! I can't wait to see the news next week. This shit is just TOO entertaining.
 
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MCD

Junior Member
This is amazing.

BTW, this is already the situation in Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8.

In Windows 8, all you need to do to go from one store region to another is simply change local country in PC Control Panel.

Windows Phone 8 is the same, just change your region to your desired country, reboot and the store will reflect that.

I am glad MS got rid of the old account system and made it all local based.

Thank you cboat, for once you delivered a positive news to the Xbox people!
 
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Despera

Banned
dragonbane said:
Your XBL account settings don't matter anymore. Only the setting in the XB1 itself matters. You should be able to select Japan as your country and buy Japan only games from the Japanese marketplace using your American XBL account yes. Obviously you need to figure out a way to navigate your console and the marketplace, as everything would be displayed in Japanese. Even Kinect would only accept Japanese input. If you manage to find the stuff you want in the marketplace, set up a fake address in Japan and buy the games you want. Then download them and change your country back to America.

This should work. Two requirements though: XB1 needs to launch in Japan (2014/2015?) and obviously we don't know if there are going to be any Japan only games at all.



That's true of course lol
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Wouldn't changing the country back to America disable the Japanese games? Am I required to go back n forth whenever I want to play different region games?
 
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nib95

Banned
Despera said:
Wouldn't changing the country back to America disable the Japanese games? Am I required to go back n forth whenever I want to play different region games?
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Well it doesn't with the PS3, and I'm hoping it's the same with the PS4, and by virtue Microsoft follow suit too. It's convenient as you can download demo's, games etc specific to certain regions.

Hopefully Swapping your account country over is an easy and quick task.
 
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airborn

Member
dragonbane said:
-Once XB1 launches in Sweden, you can change your country to Sweden, enjoy Swedish Kinect controls, buy from the Swedish marketplace and still play the games you bought in Germany and from the Spanish store (includes DLC)
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Only the prepaid credit that's in your account will not migrate with you from Spain (Euro) to Sweden (Krona).

You can move your Microsoft account from the region it’s associated with now to any other region up to one time every three months. However, after your Microsoft account transitions, the currency in your account will not move with you, so be sure to spend your currency before you change your account location!
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Not sure if they consider the Eurozone a region, probably not.
 
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