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GFWL marketplace purchases ending Aug 22, 2013.

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FACE

Banned
Hey stump, why don't you try opening GFWL marketplace to see if there's anything you want to download?

Good idea, stump

"You must install Windows Live Sign-in Assistant"

OK, I'm not sure why, but I'll install that. Whatever.

*installs*

http://i.imgur.com/kmUJziB.png[img]

Hey that's weird.

*googles*

Two possible causes:

[img]http://i.imgur.com/4TQOVwX.png[img]
1) GFWL does not support two-factor auth and blocks you from using it! Boy I love GFWL!

[img]http://i.imgur.com/NsudiZN.png[img]
2) GFWL apparently chokes on passwords with non-alphanumeric characters even when the same passwords work for other Live tools. Boy I love GFWL![/QUOTE]

B-b-but I can increase my gamerscore and it never gave me any problems!
 

Almost but not quite.

The Web store is dead as an always-online-policy so no new purchases obviously. For any individual games that have a marketplace, however, you can still buy DLC with MS points via their in-game store. So for anyone that doesn't mind buying content that's guaranteed to get Xboned in less than a year there's still a chance (for now anyway.)
 

morningbus

Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
morningbus
Member
(08-02-2013, 10:00 AM)

Edit: I quoted the wrong timestamp. Fixed!

JaseC
Member
(07-20-2013, 02:20 AM)

;)

On any other day I'd argue time travel, but today I simply lack the wherewithal to front an argument.

I sit corrected.
 

legacyzero

Banned
Just bring Gears of War to Steam, Microsoft. You know, so it can actually SELL.

Tangent, but it's sad when the PC market is like this. People won't buy a game for their PC from a PC store unless it's a specific PC store.

Well, when the store, and the company running it isn't complete crap, then sure. I mean, look at all the celebration in this entire thread.
 

Sentenza

Member
I like the other thread more. You know, the one where they accidentally confirmed that isn't just the store but the whole service going down.
 

Stumpokapow

listen to the mad man
Almost but not quite.

The Web store is dead as an always-online-policy so no new purchases obviously. For any individual games that have a marketplace, however, you can still buy DLC with MS points via their in-game store. So for anyone that doesn't mind buying content that's guaranteed to get Xboned in less than a year there's still a chance (for now anyway.)

I think the MSP->Cash conversion firmware update is going out today or tomorrow, so no one will have any MSP after that point :p
 

X05

Upside, inside out he's livin la vida loca, He'll push and pull you down, livin la vida loca
Tangent, but it's sad when the PC market is like this. People won't buy a game for their PC from a PC store unless it's a specific PC store.
Considering that the GFWL Marketplace wasn't avaiable in a lot of places, and Steam is available everywhere, I'd say it's not sad at all but an actually valid issue.

For example, I'd buy Gears of War if it where available in Steam (with GFWL removed), because I'd be actually ABLE to buy it.
 

morningbus

Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
Gears was also originally available only through Gametap, I believe.

The PC version has a weird history.
 

airblade

Banned
If you generate a per-application password (login.live.com) you can circumvent those two issues. Apparently I spent $1.09 on GFWL Marketplace during its long and sordid history.

I went through every single title that is not available on Steam and thus will officially disappear from digital PC sale when the marketplace closes end of today... and the vast majority of them are already not for sale.
afl live: not available for sale in canada on gfwl
battle vs chess: not available for sale in canada on gfwl
carneyvale showtime $9.99
crash time 4: not available for sale in canada on gfwl
gears of war: $19.99
halo 2: listed, but not actually available for purchase
hour of victory: not available for sale in canada on gfwl
game room: apparently not available for sale in canada on gfwl
quantum of solace: not available for sale in canada on gfwl
shadowrun: $9.99
juiced 2: not available for sale in canada on gfwl
legend of the galactic heroes: not available for sale in canada on gfwl
mahjong wisdom: $4.99
rugby league live: not available for sale in canada on gfwl
tinker: free
tron: evolution: $39.99
vancouver 2010: $49.99
viva pinata: $19.99

where's waldo: not available for sale in canada on gfwl

I wonder if you can get a digital copy of Gears of War PC somewhere else.
 

JaseC

gave away the keys to the kingdom.
What's baffling to me is that they even had the nerve to complain about it not being particularly successful on PC, at the time.

Not to mention CliffyB's little nugget on why Gears 2 would be an X360-exclusive:


I mean, on a primordial level, he wasn't wrong, but he was painting with a very broad brush.

Edit: Battle vs Chess returned to Steam quite some time ago, though in select territories it sported a new title: Check vs Mate. The two are actually separate apps despite being the same game (I own both).
 

Sentenza

Member
I wonder if you can get a digital copy of Gears of War PC somewhere else.
I'm going to guess you will, at some point.

Oh, and on a side note, since during my unfortunate 2-weeks ban I wasn't able to comment on that, let me just say that unlike many other GAFffers I'm quite confident at some point Namco will patch GFWL out of Dark Souls.

The whole "they didn't make a good port so they won't bother" holds little ground, in my opinion. Sure, they didn't put much faith an money on the PC port, but it proved quite successful despise their skepticism and it is showing solid long tail sales every time it gets a discount on Steam, so I think they will patch it.
After all, half of the work is already done for the sequel.
 

JaseC

gave away the keys to the kingdom.
I'm going to guess you will, at some point.

Oh, and on a side note, since during my unfortunate 2-weeks ban I wasn't able to comment on that, let me just say that unlike many other GAFffers I'm quite confident at some point Namco will patch GFWL out of Dark Souls.

The whole "they didn't make a good port so they won't bother" holds little ground, in my opinion. Sure, they didn't put much faith an money on the PC port, but it proved quite successful despise their skepticism and it is showing solid long tail sales every time it gets a discount on Steam, so I think they will patch it.
After all, half of the work is already done for the sequel.

From is actually working on a patch for Dark Souls at the moment, but at this juncture it's too early to tell what it pertains to exactly. The timing is awfully suggestive, though. ;)
 

JaseC

gave away the keys to the kingdom.
Good. Very good.
Except... Why is the first time I'm reading about this? D:

It's been mentioned before, but there's no thread or even news articles about it due to the distinct lack of information -- literally all we can glean at this stage is that From began working on a patch on the 21st of August.
 
Why hasn't any developer that has their games on GFWL not come out with an official statement on what will be the status of their game after the service closes?
 

JaseC

gave away the keys to the kingdom.
Why hasn't any developer that has their games on GFWL not come out with an official statement on what will be the status of their game after the service closes?

One has!

Edit:
I wonder if beside patching out GFWL (which sounds like a safe bet) they will consider to unlock the resolution and so on.

From should just include DSFix and implement some of the settings into the game's own options menu. :p
 

bengraven

Member
This is like the ending of Return of the King, where the Dark Tower falls and everyone cheers, including Gandalf.

Then there's a moment of silence and Gandalf's face suddenly looks upset as he wonders what happened to Frodo.

That's kind of like me right now and Frodo = my games and future games. Yay, it's dead. But, uh, that means the games are dead too...
 

JaseC

gave away the keys to the kingdom.
This is like the ending of Return of the King, where the Dark Tower falls and everyone cheers, including Gandalf.

Then there's a moment of silence and Gandalf's face suddenly looks upset as he wonders what happened to Frodo.

That's kind of like me right now and Frodo = my games and future games. Yay, it's dead. But, uh, that means the games are dead too...

I do expect some titles to be left high and dry:

- F1 2010 and 2011 (non-current yearly instalments are quickly forgotten about by publishers)
- Fallout 3 (Bethesda can simply pull the game and give existing owners a Steam discount coupon for the GOTY version)
- Section 8 and Section 8: Prejudice (both games have an active player base of next to zero)
- Street Fighter IV and Super Street Fighter IV (Capcom may see fit to just give existing owners a discount coupon for the upcoming Ultra release)

The problem with the discount coupon approach is that, while catering to existing owners on Steam is painless, Capcom would need to set up some sort of system for those who'd bought a copy at retail or via the GFWL Marketplace.
 
I do expect some titles to be left high and dry:

RIP in Peace v_v

dead-rising-2-off-the-record-walkthrough-box-artwork.jpg
 

Totobeni

An blind dancing ho
Now Developers/publishers need to start patching out GFWL and also offer alternative for people having retail GFWL discs of the games that not available on steam

The problem with the discount coupon approach is that, while catering to existing owners on Steam is painless, Capcom would need to set up some sort of system for those who'd bought a copy at retail or via the GFWL Marketplace.

Telltale Games asked people who bought the retail TWD discs to take a photo of the disc and code, and they give them steam code for TWD and 400 days (because DLC don't work with the retail version) other publishers should do this.
 

Crawl

Member
So the games people really care about that need patches are:

Capcom's back catalog, Gears of War 1, Bulletstorm, Dark Souls. Anything else? Has codemaster's said anything about their games?
 

DryvBy

Member
We need laws against this stuff. The activation list is insane. I can't play games my game because you used a busted system that no one asked for?

No, every company should be required to patch in their stuff, especially if it's on Steam.
 

Crawl

Member
We need laws against this stuff. The activation list is insane. I can't play games my game because you used a busted system that no one asked for?

No, every company should be required to patch in their stuff, especially if it's on Steam.

I think this just further hammers in the point of EVER jumping into any microsoft eco-system.
 

JaseC

gave away the keys to the kingdom.
Telltale Games asked people who bought the retail TWD discs to take a photo of the disc and code, and they give them steam code for TWD and 400 days (because DLC don't work with the retail version) other publishers should do this.

Alternatively, it shouldn't be too difficult to set up a system where a user inputs their GFWL key and is automatically given a Steam key.

Edit: There's the matter of DLC purchases, though, as GFWL assigns keys only to base games. A manual system akin to the one you mentioned would be the only option here, unless Capcom and other publishers would prefer to be particularly kind and just give transitioning owners all the available DLC.
 

Grief.exe

Member
So the games people really care about that need patches are:

Capcom's back catalog, Gears of War 1, Bulletstorm, Dark Souls. Anything else? Has codemaster's said anything about their games?

The most important one has to be Dark Souls. No other GFWL game has the kind of depth and replayability that Dark Souls provides.

Capcom's back catalog, Dead Rising 2, Resident Evil 5, Lost Planet: ECCE, I wouldn't describe these titles as necessary plays. I don't see people clamoring to replay these games in 10 years.

Gears of War, Halo 2, and Viva Pinata would be a welcome edition to my Steam library, especially the multiplayer modes from Halo 2 and Gears of War. I could see myself playing many hours of those games.

Halo 3 port easily tops my wishlist though
 

Htown

STOP SHITTING ON MY MOTHER'S HEADSTONE
So the games people really care about that need patches are:

Capcom's back catalog, Gears of War 1, Bulletstorm, Dark Souls. Anything else? Has codemaster's said anything about their games?

Iron Brigade is GFWL. Figured Double Fine doesn't have resources to spare to go back and fix that, so I'm playing through it right now.
 

ArjanN

Member
Iron Brigade is GFWL. Figured Double Fine doesn't have resources to spare to go back and fix that, so I'm playing through it right now.

Double Fine is probably nice (dumb?) enough to patch it anyway.

paging Steven Dengler...
 

kuYuri

Member
So the games people really care about that need patches are:

Capcom's back catalog, Gears of War 1, Bulletstorm, Dark Souls. Anything else? Has codemaster's said anything about their games?

I would add:

Red Faction Guerrilla
GTAIV + EFLC
Halo 2 (although the Steam rumor is still bound to happen)
 
We need laws against this stuff. The activation list is insane. I can't play games my game because you used a busted system that no one asked for?

No, every company should be required to patch in their stuff, especially if it's on Steam.

You want governments to get involved in deeper regulation of the video game market... I see... well, what could go wrong?

Paging Senator Leland Yee...

19th-leland-yee.jpg


"Gamers have got to just quiet down," Yee, D-San Francisco, said in an interview Tuesday. "Gamers have no credibility in this argument. This is all about their lust for violence and the industry's lust for money. This is a billion-dollar industry. This is about their self-interest."
 

Big_Al

Unconfirmed Member
I would be so sad if Red Faction Guerilla never got patched. But since Volition are now with Deep Silver and Nordic Games now own the Red Faction IP I can't see them doing anything about it.
 

Bulzeeb

Member
Guys, amazon is having a pc digital sale rigth now but I don't know if I should buy Dark souls because of all thos GFWL mess =/
 

JaseC

gave away the keys to the kingdom.
Guys, amazon is having a pc digital sale rigth now but I don't know if I should buy Dark souls because of all thos GFWL mess =/

There are 9 months until the service shuts down, so you have plenty of time to play it even if Scamco doesn't patch out GFWL -- but as noted earlier in the thread, an update is in the works, and the timing couldn't be more intriguing.
 

Bulzeeb

Member
There are 9 months until the service shuts down, so you have plenty of time to play it even if Scamco doesn't patch out GFWL -- but as noted earlier in the thread, an update is in the works, and the timing couldn't be more intriguing.

oh, didn't read about the update, if that is so then I guess I'll buy it, thanks
 
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