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Forza 5 - Bathurst circuit debut

saladine1

Junior Member
http://news.xbox.com/2013/09/games-forza-bathurst-track

Forza5_BathurstReveal_01_1X_WM.jpg

HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!!!!!!

What a way to wake up. Muverfucking Mount Panorama!!

It looks so fucking good.

Damn Turn 10, finally, after all these years you have finally done it.
Thank you, thank you, thank you!!

Now, all that's needed is some Monaros, Brock Commodores, Toranas and GT Falcons.

Joy to the world!
 

SatansReverence

Hipster Princess
HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!!!!!!

What a way to wake up. Muverfucking Mount Panorama!!

It looks so fucking good.

Damn Turn 10, finally, after all these years you have finally done it.
Thank you, thank you, thank you!!

Now, all that's needed is some Monaros, Brock Commodores, Toranas and GT Falcons.

Joy to the world!

You wake up at 6 in the afternoon?

Must have had a damn good night last night lol.
 

p3tran

Banned
A little defensive I see. I own all previous Forza's, GT's and Horizon. So please, wash your mouth out of that troll garbage. A new generation is upon us, and what I'm seeing just isn't enough IMO.....see that, IMO. Everyone has one so please, cut the crap and jog on.
I dont really understand this "a new generation is upon us" marketing bullshit.
you may not understand this, but forza, like ANY other game indeed, is bound by the tech that the hardware it runs on offers.

now, if you where dreaming about something that goes far beyond 1080p/60, laser scanned tracks, new physics, multiple texture layers on cars, and the graphical update we have seen, and on top all this day1, then you should take your beef to microsoft and the dudes who decided on what the xbone will pack inside.

for what the machine packs, what you are getting here is AAA day 1 development. (i.e. THE BEST way to start your "new generation upon us" thingy...)
if you cant understand it, thats not a problem I have to deal with.


HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!!!!!!

What a way to wake up. Muverfucking Mount Panorama!!
I woke up the same way not long ago 8)
cheers!
 

saladine1

Junior Member
You wake up at 6 in the afternoon?

Must have had a damn good night last night lol.

Life's short. Party hard mate.

Oh man, SpaHurst. The holy fucking grail!

I was holding back because of the wheel but I can't do it anymore.

I can see it now, Brocky's HDT A9X Torana snaking it's way down through the Esses and past Forest's Elbow onto Conrod Straight at 300km/h all the while I'm listening to Wiswell's rendition of that wonderful 308 5.0 at 7000rpm's.

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Seanspeed

Banned
That's a seriously crappy photo to show off the game, I think. I'm not surprised some people aren't impressed by it. The tires in the barrier are polygonal, the texture of the hill behind the barrier isn't very good and then of course there's the meteor about to hit the earth in the background.

I think anybody who has seen the actual gameplay will know what a leap it is over previous Forza's and looks plenty next-gen. Some people are either out to bash Forza or maybe just haven't seen that gameplay yet.
 

p3tran

Banned
come on guys, its 300-400 tires stacked up in one turn of a 6.2km long circuit.
how many polys per stacked-up tire you need to be happy? :)
 

Seanspeed

Banned
If you expecting much more than what you see there you're setting yourself up for massive disappointment.
I don't follow. This isn't exactly our first glimpse of Forza 5. I've seen gameplay already and think that looks great.

Most games will have visual aspects that aren't great. The trick is to minimize them and then hide them as much as possible. So I think it was a bit of a bonehead move to use a pic that blatantly highlights a couple of these areas for the announcement. I guarantee we'll see much better photos from users once the game comes out.
 

JAYSIMPLE

Banned
Oh look. Turn 10 put a blazing sun right at eye level again on another track.

So fucking obnoxious. Every track they've shown has this and it's really annoying in the gameplay videos.

Look at the low polly/textured hill behind the sign to the left, its obvious this blinding sun is a mindtrick to make your eyes look at that focul point/be blinded and not notice the lower quality assets
 

SatansReverence

Hipster Princess
I don't follow.

Basically, if anyone expects a tyre wall to look much better than that, they are indeed setting themselves up for disappointment.

I honestly can't even see what's wrong with the texture on the other side of the track either even though it's apparently "PS2" quality.

The only issues in that screenshot are the white road marking getting blurred and the tyres aren't getting shadows applied properly (from the outer skin mostly).
 

JAYSIMPLE

Banned
Basically, if anyone expects a tyre wall to look much better than that, they are indeed setting themselves up for disappointment.

I honestly can't even see what's wrong with the texture on the other side of the track either even though it's apparently "PS2" quality.

The only issues in that screenshot are the white road marking getting blurred and the tyres aren't getting shadows applied properly (from the outer skin mostly).

Can't expect a tyre wall to look much better than that, it is very nice.
 

Seanspeed

Banned
Basically, if anyone expects a tyre wall to look much better than that, they are indeed setting themselves up for disappointment.

I honestly can't even see what's wrong with the texture on the other side of the track either even though it's apparently "PS2" quality.

The only issues in that screenshot are the white road marking getting blurred and the tyres aren't getting shadows applied properly (from the outer skin mostly).
I don't see why somebody couldn't expect the tire barrier to look better than that. Its not impossible to do, after all. It just seems to be one of the areas that Turn 10 decided wasn't as important so they could focus some of that graphics power elsewhere. A perfectly understandable decision, but it seems really silly to use a photo that plainly highlights, front and center, this deficiency in the graphics for such an important reveal.

Personally, I think the only disappointing aspect is the hill texture. Its kinda just not very good. That's something that will actually be seen on a normal basis, unlike the 'roundness' of the tires in the tire barrier. Not a huge deal, but I cant fault somebody for pointing it out.

And I'll repeat again that the gameplay shown looks great, so I have no fear about the 'next-gen'ness of the game and neither should others(though I doubt 'fear' is the right word for some of the posters).
 

Mascot

Member
Those aren't polygonal tyres, they are perfectly round tyres with flat spots.

Realism extreme, only on Xbone.
 

p3tran

Banned
Oh man, listen to that thing.

Fuck's sake Turn 10, when are we getting a video?
I need to hear the cars. I need some stress relief and listening to a V8 bang around Mount Panorama would be the ideal scenario.

NOVEMBER 22, THE REAL DEAL.

fuck videos and other people's photos!
let them twerk on the game until then 8)


only one more thing I want confirmed for full marks. laser scanned ring. 8)
 

twobear

sputum-flecked apoplexy
I was firmly in the 'downgrade from E3 is a conspiracy theory' camp but after seeing this, I'm beginning to believe it. The track detail looks barely improved (if at all) from FM4.
 

p3tran

Banned
Badneds comments on the ring give much hope of that.
yeah I know. just want a small article on fm.net with a crappy pic saying: WE SCANNED YOUR RING BIATCHES!




btw the "star" of the above pic is the tarmac itself, not the tires or the grass on the hills across goddamit!! where's your attention at? you a driver or a passenger? :D
 

derFeef

Member
I was firmly in the 'downgrade from E3 is a conspiracy theory' camp but after seeing this, I'm beginning to believe it. The track detail looks barely improved (if at all) from FM4.

But the E3 demo was already looking like FM4 apparently, so how does that work.
 

Seanspeed

Banned
I was firmly in the 'downgrade from E3 is a conspiracy theory' camp but after seeing this, I'm beginning to believe it. The track detail looks barely improved (if at all) from FM4.
So this is the first you've seen of Forza 5 then?

Its not a good shot. The game looks great, don't worry. And there's no downgrade, either. We've actually got confirmation of several bumps up in performance CPU and GPU-wise.

You're either not in the loop or looking for reasons to bash.
 

G Rom

Member
I was firmly in the 'downgrade from E3 is a conspiracy theory' camp but after seeing this, I'm beginning to believe it. The track detail looks barely improved (if at all) from FM4.

Some of you should really race a few laps in FM4 to get your rose-tainted glasses removed. You would be surprised. It's hard to go back after seeing gameplay videos and bullshots of FM5...
 

twobear

sputum-flecked apoplexy
But the E3 demo was already looking like FM4 apparently, so how does that work.
The E3 demo looked great, probably one of the best looking next-gen games (at the time). But there seems to be a lot of stuff that's disappeared, not least the haze. Obviously part of it is city track vs track in the middle of nowhere but everything seems worse; lighting, effects, track detail.

Maybe it's all down to different lighting conditions, I dunno. If that's true though they really need to sort out their lighting because they're ruining the visuals of their game.
 

Grassy

Member
Well about bloody time. They need some good Aussie muscle cars to top it off though.

Time to pre-order an Xbox One...
 

G Rom

Member
With all the fan-requested stuff making their way in FM5, maybe I should update this gif I had done upon FM4's reveal :
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twobear

sputum-flecked apoplexy
Perhaps you should look at some screenshots from FM4 before claiming such rubbish.

Some of you should really race a few laps in FM4 to get your rose-tainted glasses removed. You would be surprised. It's hard to go back after seeing gameplay videos and bullshots of FM5...

Really? Texture detail looks similar to me. Polygonal detail is hard to judge because they're very different tracks, but the awkward looking, flatly lit verges in the Bathurst shot don't do it any favours.

I think there is the volumetric haze in Bathurst still, but it's thinner so it's harder to tell until you see it side by side with F4, so I stand corrected there.

Maybe it's just similar to what they did with F4; lead the PR with the super pretty, hand-crafted tracks (Monserrat, Prague), then when the recreations of real tracks follow they don't look nearly as good...because reality doesn't look as good.

Honestly though you guys have spent a lot more time with the game than me, I only play it when I go to my friend's house, so I'll defer to your opinion if you think it looks like a big improvement. It just doesn't look very much like one to me.
 
Really? Texture detail looks similar to me. Polygonal detail is hard to judge because they're very different tracks, but the awkward looking, flatly lit verges in the Bathurst shot don't do it any favours.

I think there is the volumetric haze in Bathurst still, but it's thinner so it's harder to tell until you see it side by side with F4, so I stand corrected there.

Maybe it's just similar to what they did with F4; lead the PR with the super pretty, hand-crafted tracks (Monserrat, Prague), then when the recreations of real tracks follow they don't look nearly as good...because reality doesn't look as good.

Honestly though you guys have spent a lot more time with the game than me, I only play it when I go to my friend's house, so I'll defer to your opinion if you think it looks like a big improvement. It just doesn't look very much like one to me.

Never been the prettiest games and screen grabs let you focus on the jank but they look decent in motion.
 

Putty

Member
"you may not understand this, but forza, like ANY other game indeed, is bound by the tech that the hardware it runs on offers."

Thanks for that glowing insight. Current gen racers offer more than whats been offered here.

"now, if you where dreaming about something that goes far beyond 1080p/60, laser scanned tracks, new physics, multiple texture layers on cars, and the graphical update we have seen, and on top all this day1, then you should take your beef to microsoft and the dudes who decided on what the xbone will pack inside."

So mainly a graphical bump with an exploding sun on every track?

"for what the machine packs, what you are getting here is AAA day 1 development. (i.e. THE BEST way to start your "new generation upon us" thingy...)
if you cant understand it, thats not a problem I have to deal with."

PR at its finest.
 

eso76

Member
That's the best tirewall ever, what's wrong with you guys ?

I just hope one day T10 drops the dramatic lighting conditions and gives us something less..spectacular and more realistic.
 
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