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Final Fantasy Agito (iOS/Android) announced [Tabata Producing, Details In OP]

AmanoBuff

Member
Why SE, why?!?! Why you have it all backwards?!

The one doing the mobile title should be Toriyama. Give him a free pass to do as many FFXIII spinoffs on mobile and leave him there for good.

Then go take Tabata and make him lead a multi-million budget Type-0 sequel game for consoles and handhelds.

Well, at least you had the sense to make Tabata co-direct XV...
 

Kagari

Crystal Bearer
Why SE, why?!?! Why you have it all backwards?!

The one doing the mobile title should be Toriyama. Give him a free pass to do as many FFXIII spinoffs on mobile and leave him there for good.

Then go take Tabata and make him lead a multi-million budget Type-0 sequel game for consoles and handhelds.

Well, at least you had the sense to make Tabata co-direct XV...

Why? Because mobile is the future! Screw everything else! Oh you wanted mobile games with depth and not F2P schemes? :lol
 

Dunan

Member
Given that it's for phones (seriously, SE, stop obsessing over phones), I'm glad it's F2P, since digital content can't be sold. If it's even as playable as the other major phone-spinoff-of-a-never-translated-PSP-game (Valkyria Chronicles Duel), it should be worth at least trying out.

The part about 一巡目の歴史から (from the first 'turn' of history), does that mean that we're going to begin
at the real beginning and not at Arecia's 6-billionth iteration or whatever it was
?
 

MagiusNecros

Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
The part about 一巡目の歴史から (from the first 'turn' of history), does that mean that we're going to begin
at the real beginning and not at Arecia's 6-billionth iteration or whatever it was
?

Very first cycle.

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As for depth. There will be depth. That is. If you pour a money pit into transactions.

What did happen to Type 0? wasn't it Vita bound?

It's on Vita via JP PSN.
 

TGO

Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
What did happen to Type 0? wasn't it Vita bound?
 

Goli

Member
Can you name a mobile Final Fantasy that is F2P that doesn't suck? I can't.

I can name one that DOES, though.

No, but other F2P mobile FF games aren't anywhere near as ambitious as this one, though obviously there's a chance this will end up being a pretty depthless game, however, my point is I think it's silly to assume that just because a game is free to play it won't have any depth.
 

CorvoSol

Member
No, but other F2P mobile FF games aren't anywhere near as ambitious as this one, though obviously there's a chance this will end up being a pretty depthless game, however, my point is I think it's silly to assume that just because a game is free to play it won't have any depth.

I think it's a matter of 1)Square hasn't ever put out a good F2P mobile game, 2)Square sticking iaps and time limits onto the game is not a good sign that there will be any depth to it at all, and 3)people are not exactly inspired to have confidence in a company like Square Enix anymore.

Consider: Square puts two Final Fantasy games on the iOS etc platforms. One is full of depth, contains a chapter-based, job-class filled, full-length RPG adventure with no iaps, no time limitations, and no other mobage/social hijinks. It is in every way considerable a classic-style Final Fantasy game. The other is a mobage game with no music, iaps, time-limit/energy limitations, full of advertisements like a piece of freeware, and can be played with one hand while taking a dump for all the player input and thought it requires to get through it. Literally tapping one button will get you through basically the entire game until your time points run out.

The first game is Final Fantasy Dimensions, and it costs 20 dollars American to play, which is a ridiculous price for a game on Android or iPhone or whatever else. The other is Final Fantasy Airborne Brigade, and costs you only what they can swindle out of you by misdirecting your thumb toward the cash button.

Call me cynical, but would a company like Square Enix, which charges an arm and a leg for an SNES level experience, really just give away for free a game that is on par with something they were selling on the PSP for 60ish bucks?

I cannot honestly fathom a world in which Square offers any manner of "deep" gameplay experience for free or even "free". Heck, if I was running the company I sure wouldn't. It would be a colossal waste of money to expect people's iaps to pay off a game like Type-0.
 

MagiusNecros

Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
I would have gladly taken FF Agito as a 3DS game and Curtain Call as an iOS/Android game.

But eh. I'll just scoop up Bravely Default and be on my merry old way.
 

Toth

Member
Just saw the new screenshots on Twitter. The game looks fantastic. The battle system looks a little weird though. I wonder how it will work.
 

Goli

Member
I think it's a matter of 1)Square hasn't ever put out a good F2P mobile game, 2)Square sticking iaps and time limits onto the game is not a good sign that there will be any depth to it at all, and 3)people are not exactly inspired to have confidence in a company like Square Enix anymore.

I think Guardian Cross is a pretty good free to play game, I enjoyed my time with it. Sure, it has micro transactions to replenish your energy and all that, but they're completely optional. Granted, I never "finished" it i.e. I didn't see the storyline to completion, but I got pretty far before the 2.0 update hit and it was pretty well balanced, which is why I don't think this game will be a cash-in.
I think there's a huge problem re: mobile games, where a lot of people tend to associate free to play with something like mobage/GREE games which aren't really... games, I think, but there's also the free to play games that actually have gaming to be done in them, like Kingdom Conquest, Puzzle and Dragons, Guardian Cross, Sengoku Rumble, Real Racing 3 and many others. SE has already released a lot of free to play games for the mobage/GREE/mixi/Facebook/whatever else platforms which are basically all money grabs, but they've released just a few "real" free to play mobile games, all of which, in my opinion, are of high quality with balanced gameplay mechanics that don't force you to make microtransactions to win, and I have the feeling Agito will be like that, and not a mobage/GREE-type game.
For that reason I think it's silly to assume that just because a game is free to play and has microtransactions automatically means it's gonna be terrible, whether it's made by SE, EA, Capcom, or whatever. There's a lot of great free to play games both on mobile and other platforms.

Consider: Square puts two Final Fantasy games on the iOS etc platforms. One is full of depth, contains a chapter-based, job-class filled, full-length RPG adventure with no iaps, no time limitations, and no other mobage/social hijinks. It is in every way considerable a classic-style Final Fantasy game. The other is a mobage game with no music, iaps, time-limit/energy limitations, full of advertisements like a piece of freeware, and can be played with one hand while taking a dump for all the player input and thought it requires to get through it. Literally tapping one button will get you through basically the entire game until your time points run out.

The first game is Final Fantasy Dimensions, and it costs 20 dollars American to play, which is a ridiculous price for a game on Android or iPhone or whatever else. The other is Final Fantasy Airborne Brigade, and costs you only what they can swindle out of you by misdirecting your thumb toward the cash button.

Call me cynical, but would a company like Square Enix, which charges an arm and a leg for an SNES level experience, really just give away for free a game that is on par with something they were selling on the PSP for 60ish bucks?

I cannot honestly fathom a world in which Square offers any manner of "deep" gameplay experience for free or even "free". Heck, if I was running the company I sure wouldn't. It would be a colossal waste of money to expect people's iaps to pay off a game like Type-0.

Regarding the pricing on paid mobile games SE puts out, I think... they're fine. It's true their games are generally more expensive than the dollar many users seem to be used to paying, but their quality is also a lot higher. I have no problems paying for quality if that means getting games like Chaos Rings II or Drakerider which would have cost something like $40 on 3DS/Vita/PSP available for a half of that or less on launch day.
And even then and despite how SE's paid iOS/Android games have been hugely successful for them, they've been lowering their prices even more lately, with things like Bloodmasque costing like $7 at launch and like $3 on sale. And now they're selling even more.
 

cafemomo

Member
Have you never heard of Final Fantasy All the Bravest?
I hate that game to death. i curse myself everyday for downloading it and it makes me cringe whenever I see its name

I spent 10 bux just to get Lightning and 5 bux just to get terra holy shit what was i on
 

Fuu

Formerly Alaluef (not Aladuf)
Hahaha, sorry everyone. I'll check this out when it's released, hope it doesn't suck so at least those of us who don't have a problem with mobile gaming can enjoy it.
 

Takao

Banned
F2P Final Fantasy games:
Final Fantasy Airborne Brigade
Final Fantasy Artniks
Final Fantasy All the Bravest

You know what they also have in common? They're shit.
 

Goli

Member
F2P Final Fantasy games:
Final Fantasy Airborne Brigade
Final Fantasy Artniks
Final Fantasy All the Bravest

You know what they also have in common? They're shit.

ATB isn't F2P.
And you forgot a bunch, but all of those are on mobage/GREE, not iOS/Android.
 
So they fixed Agito when they made Type-0 but then they broke it again with Agito.

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Go ahead folks, reexperience that youth. That nostalgia. That joie de vie!
 
Sounds like good social fun! What's the catch?!

- The game is Free2Play.
- There will be Energy used up when you do missions, which can be replenished via microtransaction items. You can also pay to continue if you fail a mission, and so on.

oh dear lord. It seems Square does not know how to do free-to-play games. They should ask Valve for help.
 

CorvoSol

Member
I hate that game to death. i curse myself everyday for downloading it and it makes me cringe whenever I see its name

I spent 10 bux just to get Lightning and 5 bux just to get terra holy shit what was i on

Is there a GAF post of your experiences? I'd read that.

F2P Final Fantasy games:
Final Fantasy Airborne Brigade
Final Fantasy Artniks
Final Fantasy All the Bravest

You know what they also have in common? They're shit.

I don't think ATB is free. It SHOULD be, but somehow they charged 5 bucks for it and then like a million bucks after that. You can literally put money into it and get nothing out of it. Unlike a vending machine/gachapon machine, where if I get doubles, I have two solid doubles, you don't get like, double Clouds.

Anyway I can't even be mad. It's so them to pull this shit.
 
So this is er, disappointing. Not surprising, but still a tad... disappointing. If this comes to Playstation Mobile, I may try this so I can use buttons like I did with Chaos Rings.
 
So, if the images are any indication, cut-scenes are going to be static character art with dialog underneath them, not unlike a dating sim.

No thank you, Square.
 

Wilsongt

Member
Okay this isn't a prequel or a sequel to Type-0. It's definitely a reimagining. Another version of the same cycle in Type-0? The main characters from Type-0 are all in the game, along with new characters. The player is a student you can customize.

- There's a job system
- There's a mission system

So far so good?

- The game is divided into story chapters you can replay.
- They plan on releasing a new chapter every 2 weeks.

Still good? Sounds like a real game on mobiles! Whoa!

- Within those 2 weeks, 10 days will be for Solo Play where each player takes on their own missions, while 4 days are for Team Play where players work together to beat bosses.

Sounds like good social fun! What's the catch?!

- The game is Free2Play.
- There will be Energy used up when you do missions, which can be replenished via microtransaction items. You can also pay to continue if you fail a mission, and so on.

I LOVE JAPAN! <3 <3 <3


Edit: Damnit Ryouga I was typing up my masterpiece!!! >_<

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so..this will be the answer SE came up with for the localization??

Probably. Like I said, they are probably thinking, "Well, the West loves F2P games! They are demanding Type-0!!! Let's give them THIS one instead of the the PSP one!!".

If that's the case, damn, I don't care if Type-0 was one of the games I wanted localized the most, Square Enix could take this F2P version and shove it up their ass!
 

Toth

Member
It is interesting that this is the original Agito game that was made into Type-0. It's come full circle.

Let's be honest here and admit SE will reach FAR more potential users with this than PSP and I really want the PSP version as well.
 
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