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SEGA Sammy acquires Index (Atlus) for 14 billion yen, now a subsidiary of Sega
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Sounds like you should buy Project Diva F...
AHA-Lambda
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Is this good or not?
Man, megatons everywhere today :O
Man, megatons everywhere today :O
Snapshot King
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It's easy for you to be sick of the whiners when you got to play it.
Yes, about 3-4x as much. Also, the difference there is that ATLUS has to sell very few copies to be profitable on their games. So for them 100k is generally a success.
distantmantra
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Nothing is stopping you from doing the same.
charlequin
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Yes, I agree.
Can we stop arguing about the wrongheaded idea that Nintendo would've been a good buyer for Index now, please?
Pureauthor
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If there's one thing you don't need to worry about in this transition, it's the continued existence and localization of Persona games.
fvng
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This thread is like worst game of telephone ever
grandjedi6
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Atlus's cross media experience: 2 Persona animes
Nintendo's cross media experience: a hollywood movie, several cartoons, several animes, toys, shirts, a trading card game, spagetti-os and countless more things.
I don't think "cross media experience" is the problem here.
Snapshot King
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So now you're going to play the card of "learn a language, or ruin your experience with the game by looking over at a printed out translation of every scene in real time, else quit whining for a game to actually exist in a language you want"?
Not to mention I'd have to give money to a company for a game they are actively denying me. Fuck them.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
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Cool, do you think Atlus USA would be too expensive for SEGA to continue running?
Almost directly analogous to Sega not localizing a Sonic game.
Bruno MB
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Well, Persona does seem to do sales that wouldn't NEED the system to be a success for it itself to be successful, just look at how P4G motivated many to buy a Vita. Still, it would hold it back and like noted is uprooting the fanbase that wasn't already inclined to own at least all relevant Nintendo/Sony platforms anyway, I may've brought up the Vita but it at least is a natural extension given the Persona PSP ports and the fact the series has been almost a pure Sony exclusive.
You know what... I'm going to be somewhat optimistic. I'm going to say that Atlus, the developer, ends up being treated just like the PC developers that Sega has acquired. Of course, Atlus and Sega can't both be publishers, so I feel it will be Sega Europe Ltd, and Atlus USA surviving intact with the latter being renamed to Sega USA. Save for Relic and Three Rings, Sega of America, I feel, will cease to be with everything marketing and localizationwise being handled by essentially Atlus USA in North America.
Sapphire Dreams
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SEGA is getting stronger as 3rd party publisher now, I just hope we get Atlus' games to be localized.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
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It's about as middle of the road as you can get. Far better than a console manufacturer, but probably worse than some company without a console/handheld game developer or an investment firm. Really, it's just good that Atlus got themselves away from the corrupt mess that was INDEX.
IrishNinja
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could've been way worse, GAF - ya'll aint want them exclusive to nintendo or sony, so this is preferable. now get Yakuza 5 localized so i can back this shit Segas!
edit ya'll serious huh...yeah, sega's totally still taking down videos right? cmon now
edit ya'll serious huh...yeah, sega's totally still taking down videos right? cmon now
Oh. That's bad.
Even if they keep making them, Sega's localization record is really discouraging. They didn't localize 7th Dragon or Valkyria Chronicles 3, just to name a couple (roughly) comparable titles.
Even if they keep making them, Sega's localization record is really discouraging. They didn't localize 7th Dragon or Valkyria Chronicles 3, just to name a couple (roughly) comparable titles.
Yes, with their OWN franchises. But niche ones? I wouldn't count on Nintendo. Simply put, there are BETTER options for the niche titles that Atlus puts out.
Pureauthor
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I cannot think of a single Japanese company that would actually be a better choice to purchase Index. At best Namco, and that's more of a lateral move than anything else.
Femmeworth
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Them not localizing 7th Dragon is pretty humorous in hindsight.
grandjedi6
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Dear god please. Its just devolving down to both sides making stupider and stupider arguments.
Modified that. If we're going to be crazy pessimistic lets at least recognize what's too big to sensibly scrap.
fvng
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Is the guy in your avatar cosplaying as papa Nier?
Palette Swap
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People cheering for a platform holder buyout tend to forget the write off associated with it could have seriously devalued Atlus.
I mean, if Sony or Nintendo had bought Atlus, they'd have cancelled or changed platforms for half the games in development. This has an obvious cost and it would make things harder to get investors on board.
I mean, if Sony or Nintendo had bought Atlus, they'd have cancelled or changed platforms for half the games in development. This has an obvious cost and it would make things harder to get investors on board.
scytheavatar
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Have you guys though that this might actually be good news for Sega games getting localized? Atlus USA probably has the resources to localize games (staff, experience, distribution channels, etc) which Sega lacks and they could put it into good use.
R_thanatos
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Something I've learned over the years is that enthusiast gamers can too often be militant and hyperbolic when it comes to change. Both Atlus and SEGA have a rich, admirable history of collaborations and partnerships with other developers, pursuing new series' and genres aimed across a wide spectrum of tastes.
We should view this partnership as yet another exciting step in the world of game creation. Who knows what their combined visions will conjure for our favourite franchises, and what surprising sequels we may see!
it hurts ...it HURTS
why does this hurt so much ?
Personally my only experiences with Atlus games are with Snowboard Kids (didn't know Atlus made that until recently, loved that game on N64) and SMT IV, which I haven't played yet (my brother though, he's addicted to that game.) In any case, SEGA Sammy acquired Index. Though it's fun to speculate about "so and so could have purchased Index instead" or to speculate about what would have happened if another company acquired Index, there's no need to be offended about a hypothetical scenario that didn't happen 
The truth is that SEGA Sammy purchased Index. We have the truth and can work from that. I'm curious to see whether certain localizations of the smaller games continue to be made. I'll take what I can get and hope for the best, as some have been brutally honest about, sales may be the driving force of certain decisions.
The truth is that SEGA Sammy purchased Index. We have the truth and can work from that. I'm curious to see whether certain localizations of the smaller games continue to be made. I'll take what I can get and hope for the best, as some have been brutally honest about, sales may be the driving force of certain decisions.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
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Yes it is
Snapshot King
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Sega used to have a really good localization outfit in Sega of America before they utterly gutted them.
Japanese company? Hell no. They'd all be terrible. As for outside japan, maybe Gungho could have worked, maybe. On the western side, the only ones I could have seen wanting them would be someone like Zenimax or Deep Silver and they'd probably be equally as bad as any of the other Japanese firms. The best bet would have probably been an investment group that let them live independently, but that never seemed likely.
Pureauthor
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Guys, I have to reemphasize here that SEGA-Sammy bought Atlus, not Sega.
There is in fact a difference.
There is in fact a difference.
It's probably one of the least likely things to continue being localized.
We covered this in the last thread, they aren't different entities. Sega is not being operated separately. That's why there is a question about what will happen with Atlus USA.
I was talking about previous titles, actually. The ones that came out in English, and sell like shit. They brought 4 fucking games, despite the sale. I actually amazed that we even got the 4th game.
The only problem is their atrocious marketing.
For the new page, since this is important to understand.
This is something I wished people would recognize, but I suspect most of those that don't are fairly loyal to one or the other, at least to the point of throwing logic out the window. I keep attacking the idea of Microsoft buying them, but I think one person actually suggested them in a prior thread.
Though now that I think about it Sony IS slightly worse purely because while Wii U would be a terrible platform for Persona 5, Sony owning Atlus would just kill FE x SMT instantly, and screw that.
It does help, yes, and makes the Hudson scenario seems more likely. But then has Sega themselves ever bought any company or was it always Sega-Sammy being the official buyer?
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