frankie_baby
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I believe from previous discussions here about this recently that the game was basically a Yoshi reskin of an existing puzzle game which they licenced, licences are usually finite
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Yoshi's Cookie VC being discontinued, buy or redownload by 9 AM this Friday (Oct 18)
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I believe from previous discussions here about this recently that the game was basically a Yoshi reskin of an existing puzzle game which they licenced, licences are usually finite
I believe Iwata said at one point that Nintendo was developing a way for you to make eShop purchases via PC and begin remote downloading if your system had an Internet connection. There hasn't been much talk of it after its initial announcement.
Digital is not the problem, it's the implementation. Your digital purchases from download services like these are entirely dependent on the service remaining available. Most companies do not want to decouple the re-download service from their system, so they're not allowing you to, for example: sideload apps, allow syncing purchase downloads to an external cloud storage provider, and/or allow user backups of the install or apps. If they did any of the above, digital purchases would last far, far longer than physical ones.
This is a new world, however, and an equivalent process for recovering physically-distributed software does not really exist. The evolution process of their business models will be slow.
Ah. So basically like licensing Tetris and giving it a Nintendo theme?
Yeah this is what I recall and haven't there also been report from like Emily Rogers or Rich or I'm not too sure but saying this would be added ? Not too sure but either way I remember it being mentioned at some point.
frankie_baby
Member
pretty much yeah
That's not quite the case... my understanding is that BPS was developing a puzzle game, showed it to NCL, and NCL folks wanted to make it into a Mario themed game. BPS agreed -- part of the agreement was that BPS published the SNES version, with NCL publishing the NES/GB versions.
All I can assume is that some sort of VC licensing period ended.
Nintendo published all versions of Yoshi's Cookie, as far as I know.
Petrae
Member
This is the scary side of the Digital Future-- the possibility of forever losing a game you paid money for because it's no longer able to be downloaded. Storage space is finite, and sometimes you need to "clean the fridge" to make room... but what if you get that hankering to play ________ again and, when you try to download it, it's gone?
Stuff like this keeps me buying physical copies.
Stuff like this keeps me buying physical copies.
You can make your own backups.
OrbitalBeard
Member
It would be sleazy if it were actually true, but it's not. I've been able to re-download every de-listed VC game I've bought and I've purchased quite a few titles over the years that are no longer available on the shop. I'm sure that will be the case with Yoshi's Cookie as well.
encephalon
Member
I once saw this title listed on an import store as "Yossie's Cockies."
Petrae
Member
Unless it's a Nintendo communication error, the warning explicitly states that Yoshi's Cookie should be redownloaded by a specific date. This is atypical of most delistings, hence the discomfort with the situation.
Yeah, if it was just "bar from purchase" I'd rush to buy, but "can not redownload" leaves me flatfooted.
OrbitalBeard
Member
I own 11 VC games that have been de-listed and can re-download them with ease. It would be really odd for Nintendo to start this now. It's probably an error.
Alex
Member
Typically when they're delisted they remain available for download on most services though, as far as I'm aware.
Petrae
Member
Indeed. I can still redownload games like Double Dragon and Midway's arcade games on XBLA that were delisted. This is the first situation I've seen where a warning to redownload by a certain date-- indicating complete removal of the game from the service-- has been issued.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Maybe when Yamauchi died his loyalty to them dried up? Lol
Aquamarine
Member
Never mind.
Seeing this thread inspired me to go and download other de-listed VC games: the Donkey Kong Country games, Sim City, R-Type III, Cybernator, and, of course, Yoshi's Cookie.
I don't know why Yoshi's Cookie would be any different from the rest, as far as redownloading it goes. Guess we'll see.
I don't know why Yoshi's Cookie would be any different from the rest, as far as redownloading it goes. Guess we'll see.
MaverickHunterX
Member
almost forgot about this...thanks OP!
LittleToaster
Member
Around 3 years ago, PSN gave away Flow on one day as part of the make.believe promotion. The free version of the game was pulled the next day, and the free version was also pulled from everyone's download lists.
Also, there were all those purchased videos that disappeared after downloading them once, but all of those videos came back to the download list months ago.
CambriaRising
Member
Digital future, guys.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
I have that copy of flow. I guess I'm never deleting it.
Can you backup PSN games to USB or whatever?
Hmm... I think you're right, although now I'm wondering if BPS had something to do with the Japanese release. The SNES version was developed by BPS, and they have nice developer logos on it, but I thought I remember reading something about them publishing that version...
LittleToaster
Member
Individually, no. You can only back up the entire hard drive.
What's possible is that legal issues forcibly remove the option period, IE the contract explicitly barred continued access or otherwise didn't allow it to be an option, or a court order mandates something be pulled entirely (makes me wonder if anyone can still download Too Human on that note.) Perhaps those came off without those issues, but this has that issue and will be sunk for it.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
If they're actually not letting you redownload the game after that date, that's uh... wow. That's bad.
I hope that's not the beginning of a new trend.
I hope that's not the beginning of a new trend.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
I believe BPS did publish it. Pretty sure the spine of the cart has a purple stripe instead of red, indicating third party.
sixteen-bit
Member
What a shitty practice.
Crap like this ensures I'll never buy anything digitally off a Nintendo service unless drastic changes are made.
The Mana Legend
Banned
Isn't this being released on Wii U VC by the end of the year?
To be precise, the NES version of Yoshi's Cookie was revealed in a sizzle reel of upcoming Wii U Virtual Console games from April 2013. You can see it at 0:24 here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6V5NJ9ZKfPo
The game has been delisted. When you search for it, it does not appear.
It also does not appear when you go to Titles You've Downloaded.
In Account Activity, Yoshi's Cookie and the transaction you've made involving it will still appear in your history. Clicking on the name of the game, however, will send you to a page called Details, saying only the following:
North American Wii U here.
I have the SNES cartridge in front of me, and it does in fact have a purple stripe. It also has the BPS logo and name on the label, and says "Licensed by Nintendo", so it definitely was published by BPS and not Nintendo.
Also, you just blew my mind with the purple vs red stripes on all SNES games. I never noticed that before, but it's true that all first party games are red while third party are purple.
Thanks for the verification. I guess now people will just have to back it up manually. :\
I wonder if the Wii-to-WiiU transfer process still works for this title, or if it has been added to the list of download software that can't be transferred (EDIT: nope, FAQ is still the same).