titusandronicus
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Mavericks is up on the US store apparently. Link still loading though.
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Apple iPad Media Event |OT| 'We Still Have a Lot to Cover'
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chickdigger802
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I think I might actually just get the air... Does mini have a date or is it just 'November'?
Vanillalite
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Basically because iOS doesn't scale apps. It just runs apps at multiplier resolutions Apple's only choice with the mini was to go to the full size iPad display. This also meant they had to go with a chipset fast enough to power the thing without having another iPad 3 situation on their hands.
So they were forced to go this route, and there for we got the price increase. In theory if iOS did app scaling ala Android Apple could have gone for the same PPI as the regular iPad but not needed to go as high of a resolution, and maybe in turn not needed as fast of a chipset to power the thing. So maybe the price could have stayed the same.
That's just not possible with the way iOS is designed though.
So they were forced to go this route, and there for we got the price increase. In theory if iOS did app scaling ala Android Apple could have gone for the same PPI as the regular iPad but not needed to go as high of a resolution, and maybe in turn not needed as fast of a chipset to power the thing. So maybe the price could have stayed the same.
That's just not possible with the way iOS is designed though.
Vyse The Legend
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iPad mini price hike and month delay soured me. I was set to sell my iPad 3 today, but I guess I will wait.
jts
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Not sure if lying or clueless.
Xplatformer
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SOMEONE TELL ME HOW MUCH SYSTEM RAM is on the new tablets!!!
Is it still 1GB?
Is it still 1GB?
ok you are right, the price increase from 329 to 399 is strange. And something apple seldomly does. Well might be because the mini cannibalized the market of the big ipad more than they though
I wouldn't be surprised if the "air" has more RAM and a higher clocked CPU.
Definitely expected both, still probably going to do the trade-down from the iPad 3, but I might splurge for the Air, we'll see.
dem
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Because that would be turning a tablet into a laptop... or a laptop into a tablet.
Actual innovation
Something they just poo pooed today..
I'm just going to have to disagree with you there.
The 15" Pro no longer coming with a discrete gpu standard is very disappointing
If the Nexus was just as smooth as the iPad, had decent dimensions and a better app store I would be all over it.
Watching comparison videos on YouTube shows how rough the N7 is. So slow and laggy in comparison to the iPad.
The good news about it going to $300 is you can get the refurb model for like $249 or less now.
difficult - the value will drop in ten days when the air is out. Can't you live without it for a little while?
The A7 performance isn't unmatched in any other devices, though.
But not that much thanks to the iPad 2 price, though.
captmcblack
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Even a higher-clocked CPU would be okay, as long as both have that 2GB RAM.
If it's just 1GB though, that almost $200 difference between the new mini and other tablets is painful.
killer_clank
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Mavericks is up. At least in the UK. Downloading now.
What's "new" about any of that? I just want something a little more exciting than the logical progression of technology i.e. more powerful and smaller.
Bob Dobalina
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This is absolutely not the case, "rough" is the furthest word from what I would describe the new N7's performance. Going to stop posting about it in this thread before I begin sounding like a google shill.
The iPad air looks great in the press shots. I already miss the black/silver color though, space grey looks nice on the iPhone but dirty on the full size iPad.
its only £20 more than your good price (£319 vs £299) thats not too bad?
Kung Fu Jedi
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Looks like I'll drop by the Apple Store for a new 13" MacBook Pro Retina with 8GB of RAM and 256 GB SSD later this week. Nice pricing at $1499 for that model.
Xplatformer
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Is it a free upgrade to go from OS 9 to Maverick? Since were talking free number upgrades.
Iris pro should be roughly equivalent to the old dGPU anyways, now at a price that's -$200. Honestly, the upgrade from the old baseline price to the new high-end price is $400, and you get a ton of stuff with that.
Still on the fence though ~$3000 is a hefty price and my buddy just quit working at the Apple store so I can't get a discount...
I know A7 is pretty powerful, but it doesn't justify the cost for me.
I don't know, the new N7 is pretty damn smooth with 60fps OS, the zooming in looks awfully unsettling and stuff, so I give iPad credit for that.
They're offering updates to some devices released in 2007. That's like Microsoft releasing Windows 8.1 for free to everyone with Windows 7, or even Vista.
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Vyse The Legend
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Doubtful. Pretty sure I'll be able to get the same price for it, given the absurd iPad 2 pricing.
njean777
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Have you actually used one? I have, and it was not laggy at all. My friend has 2 and I think it is great for the price, but I wouldn't buy one because it is android.
It's not equivalent to what the old dGPU would/should/(is on the more expensive model) would have been refreshed too though.
FYI it looks like all the models are just available for shipping right now. Wonder when they will have them in stock?
Shalashaska161
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I need a new phone, and I'm either going to go Nexus 5 + iPad Mini, or just upgrade my iPhone. So it's up to Google now. It may turn out to be cheaper for me to get a Nexus 5 and an iPad Mini.
I don't have a Nexus, but my Shield is much more smoother than my mini. Android has really progressed on that front. And as for Apps, both store are interchangeable for me. :/
Do you want/need the boost in CPU performance? It's not a whole lot (10% extra performance in turbo) and extra frequency does cost a bit of battery under load.
Macbook Air numbers:
Clockspeed differences are much larger here so the differences won't be as big. "i7" and "i5" are brand names and is just a vague way of differentiating the CPUs. The cores are exactly the same. Note that small laptops have dual core i7s while my desktop has a quad core i5.
Valkyr Junkie
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Mavericks download at 20%!
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
Again can someone explain to me WTF Apple was suppose to do with the Mini giving how iOS is built at it's core? I'm not saying I like the Mini price hike (I don't), but can someone explain to me how Apple was suppose to somehow magically get around iOS's core design in handling apps?
OS 9 - Introduced on October 23, 1999
Windows 7 - It was released to manufacturing on July 22, 2009, and became generally available for retail worldwide on October 22, 2009
Super fair comparison.
Oh, I thought retina iPad Mini was £350.
Fairdo, I guess.
Still, original Mini needs to drop.
Xplatformer
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You know, you're right.
But Apple has always made it's software to sell it's premium priced hardware.
Why else would the $399 iPad 2 with 512mb be reasonable for any current tablet manufacture?
True, we're sort of at a time currently where technical innovations will be stifled awhile until next gen tech comes down in price...
Next stop, OLED/bendable devices.
Right now Samsung is at manufacturing capacity for AMOLED panels, so they will need to open other fab plants. LG and AUO are just coming online with their OLED facilities for mass production.
Interestingly, LG also just developed a bendable cable-like battery.
chickdigger802
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I need something that's a pound in weight for reference.
Diprosalic
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guys guys, i'm about to order i need to know if i should upgrade to 8GB or not?i had an air with 4GB and it was fine for what i did but i want to know how taxing the display is.
Betta Lines
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Great for people still on an iPad 2 who are looking to sell - Apple has held up its value for years!
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