something fishy
Member
I don't think they are loyal to anything and we've yet to see which will capture them.
might just be split, we shall see.
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DF/JF: Battlefield 4 PS4 vs XB1 videos/screens (900p PS4, 720p XB1)
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I don't think they are loyal to anything and we've yet to see which will capture them.
might just be split, we shall see.
Even with the DF miscues, the fact that there is even a slight chance that someone could think the XB1 version could look better, invalidates their opinions that the PS4 is much more powerful and that we'll see a noticeable difference.
It's a similar reason to why many people here ridiculed those who thought MK8 looked as good as some XB1/PS4 titles, or every time someone mentions Forza they get "lol racing game" and when someone mentions Ryse, they get "lol 900p".. Sometimes it seems like some people would just prefer us to all have the same exact opinion on everything.
Just read some of his older tweets, you'll figure it out pretty quick.
dragonbane
Member
Ouch.
Omnistalgic
Member
kudos...
Agree that this won't affect a lot of people initially, but word-of-mouth will spread if BF4 runs better on PS4 pretty quickly among early adopters. Should be an interesting launch to see who platform BF4 does better on after November and people have it at home.
anyone know the resolutions for COD?
Adam Boyes mentioned 1080p for PS4, but we dont have anything for X1.
Mr Moose
Member
Native 1080p on PS4, pretty much confirmed at native 720p on Xbox One
bigbaldwolf86
Banned
1080p for PS4 vs (rumoured) 720p for X1
Unless that's changed in the last 24 hours
BlazingDarkness
Member
There's a boat load of assumptions in there, if the 'you' in that post is referring directly to me. I'm buying a PS4, have no (and never have) had any intention of buying an Xbone.
My posts are trying to highlight the possibility that the PS4 blurriness in this footage is a result of the post-processing/upscaling and not, as some people are implying, simply a result of bad DF captures. I don't want upscaled PS4 games to all have a coating of vaseline on, especially if that's something which sacrifices the detail that would otherwise be visible because of the technical superiority. What's the point in lauding a higher res if all the detail is lost anyway? Why are people so quick to assume that a criticism of the PS4 version = a validation of the Xbone version? Because it doesn't. In this instance, I prefer an image being sharp to an image being blurry. Simple as that.
something fishy
Member
well if they lowered the detail to that extent the xb1 could of course have 1080 every time.
personally I hope they tend to lower res and keep frame rate with a decent iq in shooters generally. increasing it but losing isn't sensible.
ConteZero76
Member
...operating system?
Solid warrior
Banned
That is exactly how some people imagine the differences between the PS4 and Xbone.
Waow...
What it's go no hardware scaler? Can't believe that.
why even bother for the next gen versions? from this thread i learnd:
i just have to turn my TV settings to "Brilliant", maximum sharpness,horrible contrast etc. and voila - i have the ultimate version of the game. graphic fidelity beyond PS4/PC and since you cant see frames per seconds, i wont notice framedrops anyway.
well that saves me a ton of money.
i just have to turn my TV settings to "Brilliant", maximum sharpness,horrible contrast etc. and voila - i have the ultimate version of the game. graphic fidelity beyond PS4/PC and since you cant see frames per seconds, i wont notice framedrops anyway.
well that saves me a ton of money.
Sum-Mischief
Member
I enjoyed the gameplay ... Looks super on PS4. I cant wait to get down and dirty.
BloodMoney
Banned
Who is this guy?
Are there really journo's who don't know what "native" resolution is?
boredandlazy
Member
Should I retort by calling you dyslexic for your obvious inability to read the countless posts stating why in this thread?
Seriously mate, it would only of taken 30 seconds of your time.
Waow...
**this is meant as a joke**That is not a *real* comparison at all, both versions look fine and 99% identical. I thought, maybe, we could all crack a smile and laugh at ourselves alittle. The game in question is Operation Wolf i believe, kick ass game.
Loved Operation Wolf!
Canis lupus
Member
Are you kidding, the 180p difference between PS4 and the Bone is bigger than any multiplat difference on PS360, ever.
Don't forget to turn on the motion smoothing to get a framerate bump.
3rdamention
Member
Digital Foundry clearly said the washed out images captured from the PS4 could be a "capture situation" so it may not actually appear so "muddied" as you put it. It could have simply been their capture equipment, which they have already apologized for.
Kevin Dent isn't a journalist by any stretch of the imagination.
Solid warrior
Banned
Yes.
It might be that he loved the overall look of the XBO version and he though it's running at a better native resolution than the PS4.
XBO version looks much better.
I assume his "kidding" was the reason for why he got lead out of the thread.
Not this again.....
Many textures are randomized. If you see some texture differences, that's the reason.
The article itself also states that textures are equal.
BlazingDarkness
Member
PS4 version appears blurry in other publications also, including the IGN comparison.
Considering the amount of concern over how well the footage was captured (contrast and gamma levels) I will hold off my concern that scaling is going to be an issue with PS4 (like PS3)...
Is the software-based scaller a system developed by Sony or provided at the OS level or is it DICE's own software?
ricardo_sousa11
Member
I think it may have been the type of AA used on the PS4 that makes screenshots slightly blurry, and less crispy. Though I believe when you play it, the difference will be more noticeable.
Either ways, the X1 holds pretty good, was expecting worst.
Either ways, the X1 holds pretty good, was expecting worst.
He's talking about the blurry look caused by AA, not the lower contrast (caused by Df captures it seems)
Shit, I forgot the monitor, desk, chair, and electricity bills, too.
Edit: Whoops, forgot rent!
right, i forgot that. Max Smoothing equals 200hz = 200fps, RIGHT?
phosphor112
Banned
See, there they go again with the limited RGB on the xbox, making it look more vibrant.
Waow...
**this is meant as a joke**That is not a *real* comparison at all, both versions look fine and 99% identical. I thought, maybe, we could all crack a smile and laugh at ourselves alittle. The game in question is Operation Wolf i believe, kick ass game.
Pseudo judo
Member
The comparison of PS4 to PC is a poor one. If been in the PC screen shot thread and PS4 really isn't up to that standard...at all.
I cant quite believe it either, so I shouldnt have put it that way even though its what other people directly compared it said, yeah.
But still, since this whole thread is about the X1/PS4 comparison, point still stands that X1 is massively more inferior than I thought. I thought it would be a reversed situation of last gen maybe and not like... this.
Waow...
**this is meant as a joke**That is not a *real* comparison at all, both versions look fine and 99% identical. I thought, maybe, we could all crack a smile and laugh at ourselves alittle. The game in question is Operation Wolf i believe, kick ass game.
Don't you know that there are gamers in here calling other people "morons" just because they don't visually see things the same way?
This is serious business man! No time for jokes!
Maninthemirror
Banned
Should the topic and OP have JF/IGN and take out everything DF as they are admitting they f'ud up
BloodMoney
Banned
maf is fun
1600x900 = 1,440,000 pixels (PS4)
1280x720 = 921,600 pixels (XBOX1)
a difference of 518,400 pixels.
1600x900 = 1,440,000 pixels (PS4)
1280x720 = 921,600 pixels (XBOX1)
a difference of 518,400 pixels.
mangochutney
Member
Not to mention that to the best of my knowledge every other game we know the resolution for is 1080p so won't require any scaling anyway...
I would really hope I could for the cost of buying a PS4, and XBone, and a Wii U, with a little left over for a game or two.
The impressive thing here is that the current consoles are pumping out visuals and the multiplayer scale that are on par with the PC version of battlefield for a fraction of the price of building a high end PC.
PC will always be better - being able to upgrade components keeps the edge there for those willing to shell out more than the price of a console just to upgrade their video card, or to throw in more than one video card to push things even higher. Part of the appeal of the consoles for those that use them is the low cost of entry and the 5-8 years of good times we can get out of those consoles for that low cost of entry. I love my PC and have been gaming on it a lot more than any of my consoles recently, but I really look forward to getting my paws on the PS4 all the same.
As for the comparison of the console versions, it really is hard to tell from the DF video on any of the machines and devices I've watched it on - the two versions do look similar in the video that is not full-frame and not 60fps. I do see more jaggies on the XBone version but some of the times the textures do look a bit more crisp and detailed.... not always, but a few scenes made me like the look on that half of the screen more than the PS4 half. That said, though - the fact that it's dropping more frames while also running in a lower resolution says a lot... especially if at the time of this capture it also wasn't doing any AO. Those facts, combined with the fact that everyone that's played both in motion says they could perceive a difference in the quality in favor of the PS4 version tell me all I need to know.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
So we basically have this going on:
XBone is clearly superior.
XBone is clearly superior.
MikeE21286
Member
Looking this over, in my opinion yes there are visual differences. They become apparent when comparing the two versions against each other.
Will the visual differences hamper your enjoyment of the Xbox One version? No, assuming that you can handle the fact that there is a better version of the game out there that's not on PC.
As far as the other differences, I think the framerate differences seem to be where the real version differences will come into play for the PS4 version showing superiority not only in visual tweaks but in a true reason where one version will change a persons enjoyment of the game.
With all that being said, I can't see why a person who has the option would choose the Xbox One version of the game over the PS4 version.
Will the visual differences hamper your enjoyment of the Xbox One version? No, assuming that you can handle the fact that there is a better version of the game out there that's not on PC.
As far as the other differences, I think the framerate differences seem to be where the real version differences will come into play for the PS4 version showing superiority not only in visual tweaks but in a true reason where one version will change a persons enjoyment of the game.
With all that being said, I can't see why a person who has the option would choose the Xbox One version of the game over the PS4 version.
BibiMaghoo
Member
I'm surprised.
Mainly because the Xbone version looks great. I have no interest in buying an X1, but damn, the difference was really overblown. Both versions looks great.
Mainly because the Xbone version looks great. I have no interest in buying an X1, but damn, the difference was really overblown. Both versions looks great.
eot
Banned
It's not fair to compare the PS4 version with downsampled 4K screenshots
This is really just like 360 and PS3 cross platform ports in terms of gamma and contrast. The Xboxs have always seemed to favor punchier colours and deeper blacks, while the playstation goes for an all around brighter image which is probably the more natural.
Punchier vs natural can be debated, just like smartphone screens and TVs.
Punchier vs natural can be debated, just like smartphone screens and TVs.
So we basically have this going on:
XBone is clearly superior.
But the Xbone is so much sharper. I cant stand that muddied look of the PS4 comparison picture at all!