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Uncharted 4 confirmed?

AngryMoth

Member
Hope they do something dramatically different with it. I liked 3 but I don't think there is much room left to explore within that formula. Would be cool to see them try doing more open environments, maybe even open world.
 
I'm kind of tired of this argument playing out in every Uncharted thread. I'm up for them making some changes to the formula, but lots of people actually like Uncharted so the persistent whining over Naughty Dog working on their most successful series ever that is still on the upswing just seems bizarre to me. Give it a rest or don't play it (maybe better still).

I think it is perfectly fine to discuss what you want from a new Uncharted, but I'm getting sick of seeing people asking for new IP. You just got one. Why do they have to keep cranking out new IP? What kind of standard are we holding them to?

If Amy Hennig wants to make a new one, she should get to. And if you don't like that you can go into the woods and sit in a hole.

Great post, and I agree. But I have to ask. Was the last sentence bleed over from recent Seinfeld viewings? ;)
 
I wouldn't mind an UC4, I just hope they take a bit from TLOU in their approach to combat. You don't have to throw 100 bullet sponge enemies at me in every encounter.
 
You're not going to see Demon Souls 2 before they release Deep Down. Too many similarities and Sony wouldn't want to torpedo a third party exclusive.

Sony have no problem showing a ton of hunting game for Vita, you have God Eater 2, Soul Sacrifice, Toukiden, Freedom Wars, probably more that I'm not aware of.

also, DeepDown is a free to play game, with random dungeon that will never look as elaborate as a properly crafted dungeon like Demons/Dark Souls.
 

UrbanRats

Member
I'm kind of tired of this argument playing out in every Uncharted thread. I'm up for them making some changes to the formula, but lots of people actually like Uncharted so the persistent whining over Naughty Dog working on their most successful series ever that is still on the upswing just seems bizarre to me. Give it a rest or don't play it (maybe better still).

I think it is perfectly fine to discuss what you want from a new Uncharted, but I'm getting sick of seeing people asking for new IP. You just got one. Why do they have to keep cranking out new IP? What kind of standard are we holding them to?

If Amy Hennig wants to make a new one, she should get to. And if you don't like that you can go into the woods and sit in a hole.
I don't understand the reasoning.

Naughty Dog has limited resources, so i would like them to work on IPs i think have more potential left than something i'm not interested in.
It's not simply a matter of "just not play it" because as they develop Uncharted 4, they are also NOT developing something more interesting.

Of course they're free to do whatever they want, this goes for anyone including Capcom to transform Devil May Cry in DmC or Square rebooting Tomb Raider or what have you, however i'm just gonna keep pointing out how not ok with it i am.

Besides, it's not like i was opposed to the idea of Uncharted having sequels, infact, it had 3 of them (including Golden Abyss, though it wasn't from them directly), i just think it's really limiting them and i started to feel a fatigue, playing 3, where the awesome set pieces didn't impact me as they did in Uncharted 2.

It's not the same as those people who just ask for a series (Assassin's Creed, Silent Hill, etc) to be over, just because they don't like it, the point is that their resources are limited and i would like to see their talent applied elsewhere.
 

Haha I love it. It fit perfectly though, because I've noticed the same thing. It's tough to go into a thread for Uncharted and expect a different outcome anymore. The upcoming Gen has me really hyped for what's to come. I would love to see a new game but would also love to see a new IP from ND that establishes itself like UC did way back when.
 

Rand6

Member
I'm kind of tired of this argument playing out in every Uncharted thread. I'm up for them making some changes to the formula, but lots of people actually like Uncharted so the persistent whining over Naughty Dog working on their most successful series ever that is still on the upswing just seems bizarre to me. Give it a rest or don't play it (maybe better still).

I think it is perfectly fine to discuss what you want from a new Uncharted, but I'm getting sick of seeing people asking for new IP. You just got one. Why do they have to keep cranking out new IP? What kind of standard are we holding them to?

If Amy Hennig wants to make a new one, she should get to. And if you don't like that you can go into the woods and sit in a hole.

I've never seen so much truth in one post.
 

Jarmel

Banned
That's fine, I wouldn't mind UC4. Fuck a TLOU sequel.

Honestly did people expect the next ND game to be Savage Starlight? It was always going to be UC4. They probably started preproduction on it awhile ago and the rumors/hints out of the studio was closer in line to another UC adventure. Besides you should want Druckmann and Straley doing Starlight anyway.
 

Radec

Member
I don't understand the reasoning.

Naughty Dog has limited resources, so i would like them to work on IPs i think have more potential left than something i'm not interested in.
It's not simply a matter of "just not play it" because as they develop Uncharted 4, they are also NOT developing something more interesting.

Of course they're free to do whatever they want, this goes for anyone including Capcom to transform Devil May Cry in DmC or Square rebooting Tomb Raider or what have you, however i'm just gonna keep pointing out how not ok with it i am.

Besides, it's not like i was opposed to the idea of Uncharted having sequels, infact, it had 3 of them (including Golden Abyss, though it wasn't from them directly), i just think it's really limiting them and i started to feel a fatigue, playing 3, where the awesome set pieces didn't impact me as they did in Uncharted 2.

It's not the same as those people who just ask for a series (Assassin's Creed, Silent Hill, etc) to be over, just because they don't like it, the point is that their resources are limited and i would like to see their talent applied elsewhere.

Naughty Dog has 2 teams (afaik), 1 already finished giving you a new IP, the other one is likely working on a sequel to one of Sony's (not only ND) successful franchise.

Asking for another new IP after TLoU and dismissing those who likes a sequel of Uncharted is pretty selfish.

Wanting a new IP after a new IP is ridiculous and noone in the right mind will do that if their IPs are a success.
 

Namikaze1

Member
I understand some of you would like ND to work on a brand new IP instead of an existing one. It's completely understandable. (They just released a new one a few months back.) But you guys are thinking like a gamer. You are not thinking like a businessman. Both Sony and Microsoft don't care about launch as much as they do the 2014 holiday season. I mean, yes they still care about launch but they both know the hardcore members of their fanbases will be there at launch. They know their systems will be sold out.

The 2014 holiday season is very important to them. They both need a big IP to release during that time period to get the casual market to buy their systems. Microsoft announced back at E3 that the next Halo is coming out late next year. That's their system seller for the holiday season. Halo will draw in the non-hardcore fans and lead to an increase in Xbox One sales. Sony needs to match that with a big IP of their own. The next entry in their biggest IP, Gran Turismo, won't be ready for the 2014 holiday season. Uncharted is their biggest new IP this generation. While it doesn't sell Halo/GT numbers nor sell as many system as either series, Uncharted is still a system seller. I personally know several people who would buy a PS4 the moment the next Uncharted is announce.

Would I love to see a new IP from Naughty Dog? Yeah. Does Naughty Dog possibly working on a new Uncharted bothers me? Hell no, I love Uncharted. I'll still be there day 1 for whatever game they are working on. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm gonna go back to playing TLOU MP.
 
I don't understand the reasoning.

Naughty Dog has limited resources, so i would like them to work on IPs i think have more potential left than something i'm not interested in.
It's not simply a matter of "just not play it" because as they develop Uncharted 4, they are also NOT developing something more interesting.

Of course they're free to do whatever they want, this goes for anyone including Capcom to transform Devil May Cry in DmC or Square rebooting Tomb Raider or what have you, however i'm just gonna keep pointing out how not ok with it i am.

Besides, it's not like i was opposed to the idea of Uncharted having sequels, infact, it had 3 of them (including Golden Abyss, though it wasn't from them directly), i just think it's really limiting them and i started to feel a fatigue, playing 3, where the awesome set pieces didn't impact me as they did in Uncharted 2.

It's not the same as those people who just ask for a series (Assassin's Creed, Silent Hill, etc) to be over, just because they don't like it, the point is that their resources are limited and i would like to see their talent applied elsewhere.
You're definitely entitled to do so, but I think the problem is: at what point does "Boo, new IP!" just become thread crapping noise in any thread about ND? I only read the first page but it's littered with it, and doesn't really seem to encourage discussion (IMHO).
 

Servbot24

Banned
I'm more interested in a new series... but honestly this game is going to be so damn beautiful I will gladly take it.

Anyone else expected to announce a game at the event? SSM maybe?
 

Marc

Member
You don't like the games. That's fine. But calling them poor games? That's an extreme exaggeration.

Handing off the series to another developer is a bad idea. Franchise still has room to grow and only Naughty Dog can do the series justice.

Personally I thought so, the shooting mechanics, enemies and cover system were poor to me. Graphics, sound, production values etc. were all high but I was commenting as per the game itself. Just an opinion though and I realise I am in a minority.

Seemed a pretty generic formula to me unless they really take it a new direction with UC4, even UC fans would argue UC3 was essentially a remade UC2. And they both sold about the same so fans were obviously happy enough with that alone. I liked UC3 more though and do think there are a lot of differences, so not saying that myself. As for another dev, I thought the same about the likes of Bioware on KOTOR, Rocksteady on Batman etc. but I was wrong so would believe as long as Naughty Dog had creative control it would all turn out fine.

Anyway, too late now so wouldn't matter what anyone said... I hope they do ramp it up and take it in a new direction.
 
It could be possible that they're going underwater with this game. It's not space; but they could have been looking to experience the sensation of not relying on hard surfaces.

It would not be a big stretch for Uncharted; which has had a strong water presence in all their titles; which has even picked up over the titles. Deep diving for treasure?

A further out thought would be if the cordycep infection (mutation) came from an alien source? What if TLOU2 just goes completely insane and aliens just pop down half way through the game; with big messed up looking mutated freaks?


Those are some possible stretches for the existing projects; other than that, it could be a new title. Personally, I'd still like to see more of Uncharted and TLOU. They are both easily in the top ratio of best games I have ever played; both of which have a heck of a lot of room left to grow. Especially TLOU.
 
Adam Boyes watching is the real news :)



But yeah, I've talked about Uncharted 4 on these forums... like months ago. It's the worst kept secret at Sony.
 

Bodde

Banned
Would love the see a new uncharted on next gen. The franchise is well known and its something that will sell well even to the casual market.

They have 2 teams and I'm willing to bet the second team will work on a new IP just like they did with TLOU. IMO It just makes sense to do it that way. You need some exclusive franchises that are well known to promote your platform.
 

Gartooth

Member
Uncharted on the PS4 would make me crazy excited, I'd love to see how far ND can push it this early on. Glad I'm not the only one sick of all the bitching and crapping on sequels from high-tier developers, this gives me too much deja-vu back to the Retro outcry. (and honestly this situation is even more stupid when you consider TLOU just came out this year)

In regards to changes, I think Uncharted 2 almost had it perfect so I would like the team to look back at that. For instance, combat in Uncharted 3 got tedious at times due to the high volume of enemies that are bullet-sponges. I also thought the difficulty levels in Uncharted 3 were all over the place and "not fair" at times. Another issue I had was story, I actually love the premise of Uncharted 3's storyline but it was a little sloppy and could have used some refining. (Ex: Plot threads introduced only to never be addressed) Also they need to work on the pacing, I don't want to have several hours of shooting, do a single easy puzzle, and then have another several hours of shooting. Mix up the shooting/platforming/puzzle/adventure elements more so that the game feels more like an Indiana Jones style adventure rather than Gears of War. I would love to see more "open" elements of the game as well as some have desired, but at the same time I think the big setpieces should stay as they are in the series DNA.
 

Dysun

Member
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Uncharted 4 in my veins!
 

Samyy

Member
Adam Boyes watching is the real news :)



But yeah, I've talked about Uncharted 4 on these forums... like months ago. It's the worst kept secret at Sony.

And theres no indication at all its being made by ND? I mean, if they're making it its good in the sense that theres a 95% chance the game will be really good, on the other hand it means we won't see a new IP until 2016. On the flip side, wouldn't mind if Bend made it, but ND is a touch act to follow for those goes and I don't know if they can match that level of quality for a full console release.
 
I don't understand the reasoning.

Naughty Dog has limited resources, so i would like them to work on IPs i think have more potential left than something i'm not interested in.
It's not simply a matter of "just not play it" because as they develop Uncharted 4, they are also NOT developing something more interesting.

Of course they're free to do whatever they want, this goes for anyone including Capcom to transform Devil May Cry in DmC or Square rebooting Tomb Raider or what have you, however i'm just gonna keep pointing out how not ok with it i am.

Besides, it's not like i was opposed to the idea of Uncharted having sequels, infact, it had 3 of them (including Golden Abyss, though it wasn't from them directly), i just think it's really limiting them and i started to feel a fatigue, playing 3, where the awesome set pieces didn't impact me as they did in Uncharted 2.

It's not the same as those people who just ask for a series (Assassin's Creed, Silent Hill, etc) to be over, just because they don't like it, the point is that their resources are limited and i would like to see their talent applied elsewhere.

Series go up and down. Sequels aren't always better. UC2 and UC3 were also different teams. If they still have more story to tell and want a safe financial bet, they can do that.

They also said they're only interested in doing character based, narrative drive games. Should we be whining they're not doing platformers anymore too?
 

SSReborn

Member
I wouldn't mind an UC4, I just hope they take a bit from TLOU in their approach to combat. You don't have to throw 100 bullet sponge enemies at me in every encounter.

That would be amazing if they used the AI systems from Last of Us in UC4 but applied the verticality of the series to it.

Edit: What are the chances of 60fps?
 
you sure that's a real account?

Yep. Someone asked him to tweet "buttercup" and he did (which he has since removed, or I just can't find it). He also had a few tweets about... which he also removed.


But yeah, unless someone had control of his google and twitter account... it was him. He was only there for a little while... didn't give any info but did ask about PC games people wanted to see on the platform.
 

Gartooth

Member
I thought the AI was a big weak point in TLOU. I do hope they give UC4 more of a tactical approach though.

At times I agree, but I think TLOU was certainly a step up from enemy AI in Uncharted. There were times that I was significantly pissed off when playing high difficulty scenarios in Uncharted 3 due to poorly planned enemy encounters.
 
Adam Boyes watching is the real news :)



But yeah, I've talked about Uncharted 4 on these forums... like months ago. It's the worst kept secret at Sony.

It's was expected and anyone that thought otherwise would be stupid .
The need a IP to push systems in 2014 if they can get it out , UC is big and can maybe grow some more .
My only worry was Sony handed it off to someone else .
 
And theres no indication at all its being made by ND? I mean, if they're making it its good in the sense that theres a 95% chance the game will be really good, on the other hand it means we won't see a new IP until 2016. On the flip side, wouldn't mind if Bend made it, but ND is a touch act to follow for those goes and I don't know if they can match that level of quality for a full console release.


ND has two teams now... as you know. And they already made a new IP... as you know.



That's why I don't get the whole "but they always make a new IP!" They did. It's called The Last of Us.
 

VillageBC

Member
I'm hoping UC series explores Sully's past. I think they can pull off a 3 series arc that features Sully up to the point he meets Nathan. =)

I hope they don't do a TLOU2. It was an excellent contained story. I don't see a reason to go back and revisit it.
 

Mark1

Member
This interests me. I liked Uncharted 1 and the one on PS Vita. Still need to play 2 + 3. This may sound weird but I hope the team make him shirtless this time.
 

Gartooth

Member
I'm hoping UC series explores Sully's past. I think they can pull off a 3 series arc that features Sully up to the point he meets Nathan. =)

I hope they don't do a TLOU2. It was an excellent contained story. I don't see a reason to go back and revisit it.

Just from a gameplay/setting point of view I would wholly support a TLOU sequel, but at the same time I don't know if it is really something that has to be made.
 

Superflat

Member
Everyone is quick to lob disappointment when there's nothing of it to see. Once they release screens and trailers, many of those same people will be all over it like prawns to cat food.
 
Such whiners in here, yikes.

Yea, they made one new IP every generation. But they are much bigger now and can support two projects side by side and the console generations have been longer than usual. Quit your bitching.
 

UrbanRats

Member
Naughty Dog has 2 teams (afaik), 1 already finished giving you a new IP, the other one is likely working on a sequel to one of Sony's (not only ND) successful franchise.

Asking for another new IP after TLoU and dismissing those who likes a sequel of Uncharted is pretty selfish.

Wanting a new IP after a new IP is ridiculous and noone in the right mind will do that if their IPs are a success.
They can have two IP running.
I'm not asking team A(let's call it that) a new IP after LoU, if they intend to work on LoU 2 and 3 after that, fine with me.
Team B just came out of the THIRD Uncharted, i don't think it's crazy for them to start working on something else.

Besides, LoU sold incredibly well, so it's not like a new IP would be a financial suicide.

You're definitely entitled to do so, but I think the problem is: at what point does "Boo, new IP!" just become thread crapping noise in any thread about ND? I only read the first page but it's littered with it, and doesn't really seem to encourage discussion (IMHO).
Well in a thread about Uncharted 4 being a concrete possibility as their next project, i don't see people saying they're disappointed as someone shitting up threads.
If in the future, Uncharted 4 threads keep on having people complaining about how they wanted something else, then you'll have my sword.
I sure don't intend to stalk every Uncharted 4 thread in the future saying how bad of an idea it was, until they ban me.
Just to be clear.
However this thread's specific subject is a tad different.

Series go up and down. Sequels aren't always better. UC2 and UC3 were also different teams. If they still have more story to tell and want a safe financial bet, they can do that.

They also said they're only interested in doing character based, narrative drive games. Should we be whining they're not doing platformers anymore too?
What are you on about? I said they can do whatever they please, i'm free to say why i think it's a bad idea or that it doesn't sound intriguing in the least, to me, as long as i'm respectful and i'm not ranting.

Not every critical post is "whining".
 
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