Other than the Albert penello posts(Of which the main one is in the OP)? Nope not really.
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COD Ghosts Xbox One offline (2 weeks before launch) not possible without Live?
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Other than the Albert penello posts(Of which the main one is in the OP)? Nope not really.
Garrett 2U
Member
Many thanks.
GrizzleBoy
Banned
I don't care what M$ says.
If pre-release software isn't working, the general public needs to know about it!
"Non-public code" is 100% related to the public! It even says the word "public"! Undeniable correlation!
If pre-release software isn't working, the general public needs to know about it!
"Non-public code" is 100% related to the public! It even says the word "public"! Undeniable correlation!
None of that explains why he can't play offline.
As you said, you're just "guessing" because you don't really know.
GrizzleBoy
Banned
If the update that allows him to actually use the console hasn't yet released, then I'm guessing it may have the slightest relation to why some things aren't working.
Who cares anyway. This is just snap-gate V2.0
Couldn't Microsoft ban your console (not only your Live account, the whole console) even in this gen?
FamousLastX
Member
You could still play games offline with a banned 360 and access settings and such. A console ban is just to ensure that even if you made a new Gamertag on that system you would not be able to connect to XBL.
And just to clarify so that my post isn't taken out of context, I'm aware that the ban isn't directly responsible for why he can not currently play games offline anymore.
I'm not sure what people are looking for they have made it very clear as far as I'm concerned. This guy should not have an Xbox One period. Target messed up and sent him one early which is not his fault. They obviously aren't done preparing for launch and the code they are testing right now is just that being tested.This guy on twitter posting all this stuff is acting all shocked and surprised and obviously causing this "uproar" even after they have explained to him it clearly isn't ready.
The console isn't out for two weeks this guy can post all he wants if he is expecting customer support for his stuff he isn't gonna get it. The guy from MS already said they are still getting nightly updates which means they are testing and tweaking code that isn't final. This guys clearly doesn't have all the code and is being blocked from said code for obvious instability reasons and people are going on an on about "we need answers" on something that is common but not meant to be public. We don't demand answers from game developers every time they put together a new build on their games so why should this be different.
This console is pricey yes but they have said numerous times come launch everything will be fine and you know if you buy one and it isn't then get pissed and return the thing its as simple as that. I'm not even getting an Xbox One and this thread hurts my head.
No, you were just banned from LIVE service. Either by the console serial number, or LIVE ID.
But all offline functions still worked.
Foxy Fox 39
Banned
One thing that doesn't make sense is the news articles earlier said that users wont be able to do ANYTHING without downloading the day one patch ... so how did the guy who got the the Xbox early go through all the menus and play games if he didn't even get the patch?
Do you really think the Day 1 update is really finished 2 weeks from launch? Code is still being worked on and you can bet your ass that the code launch owners will be downloading on the 22nd will be at best 1 day old if that.
The patch he downloaded is just the current OS for dev purposes. And yes as much as some here may not want to believe it, it's common for OS code to have a kill timer during development. It's set to ensure that everyone running code is operating on the latest build. Cuts down on bug reports about fixed features and keeps everyone on the same page.
He's locked out from Xbox Live and thus when the kill timer was hit his console went into bare functionality...no settings, no app loading, no nothing. Sucks to be him but it'll get fixed when he's allowed back on Live.
He got a patch, it was a pre-release patch that he assumed was the day one patch. He couldn't do anything at all till he got the patch. A day after he was banned there was apparently another patch, and the old patch self-destructed based on its timer so that testers are forced to get the latest patch before trying anything else.
soul creator
Member
This thread is the perfect example of "you don't want to see how the sausage gets made"
It makes full sense, that way you force everyone to be in the latest version, remember that the nightly is not for the general public, but for devs and beta testers.
And yet everyone thinks they're a butcher...
In that case, you'd think someone around here (a dev) would be able to 100% confirm that, no? Or would dev's building games not be using the same code, since they'd be on dev kits?
Except that Penello basically told us that was the case. And a software programmer posted here saying stuff like this is common.
ThisWreckage
Banned
There is no way in hell I'd buy the Xbox One on day one. I predict there's going to be so much stuff that is discovered/leaks out after launch that there are going to be some truly disgusted Xbox One owners.
We know. You've already mentioned the fact that the Xbox 360 is the last Microsoft product you're ever going to purchase.
Teletraan1
Banned
So all of these other systems in the wild and nobody else is has been banned. On top of that no one else has reported that the OS updated itself to the new build since the old one expired. You would think that we would have heard something, anything. It is strange indeed.
The Faceless Master
Member
Phones and Tablets have cellular modems. They only require a signal to activate.
Pretty sure we know this. And this post is basically saying you're predicting apocalyptic problems- without any proof.
So tales from your ass.
andthebeatgoeson
Junior Member
I did look at them. I saw both updates. But my point, which was ignored and snarked at, was the guy has a system and a physical game. He cannot play that physical game. Why? I would expect you can play it. Shouldn't have to need to do anything. It should work.
The OP implies there is no DRM and the updates don't remove anything. So, it should work. I asked about a summary because those that responded to me suggested I was wrong for blaming MS. This sounds like a technical flaw. They probably will rectify it but I'm not okay with them doing it.
Also, those devices that phone home, are useless to people that can't phone home. Just because your cell phone does it, on a device capable of doing it, doesn't make it right. The question is, what about the people that can't connect to the internet? Or am I missing something?
If you can't connect to the internet once, you have bought a brick. Its the biggest issue imo with the launch. But thats whats going on here, nothing DRM-related or nefarious, etc.
The Faceless Master
Member
Penello did and devs won't because of NDAs.
FaintColt388301
Member
Who knows man. I find it kind of odd that everybody just accepted the whole new patch that completely locks him out of everything claim. A new patch just happened to come out a day after he was banned. The OS he had previously downloaded had an expiration date or some way of knowing there was a new patch that he couldn't get due to being banned. Sounds too convienent. MS will probably get it worked out by launch and most people won't have problems but I don't trust them
The Faceless Master
Member
I believe, but I can understand why reasonable people would not trust the explanation given.
AstroNut325
Member
This is something I'm willing to give MS the benefit of the doubt. Sounds like it could be related to pre-launch issues... but he does have the day 1 patch already and he is trying to play offline. It doesn't make sense but I think someone goofed and I think this issue will be corrected by launch. I think. Perhaps glitch in OS?
He has *a* pre-launch patch... Not *the* day one patch.
FaintColt388301
Member
Yeah, good work by Panello to get out a decent answer to the question late Sunday night. He quieted the whole thing down so much that we probably aren't going to get an official answer
Teletraan1
Banned
I for one cant wait until this system is finally out so we can stop with the "just wait till it is out" bs. That seems to be the crux of people's problem. They dont want to wait until they already dropped $500+ on something that has had the most mixed and shady information ever released with new possible bombs dropped on a daily basis from both camps. Considering the guy who got his console banned pre-ordered 4 days before he received it and those shots of 100s of PS4s sitting around in Target I have a feeling that by Black Friday with some diligence anyone who really wants these systems will be able to get one. I am glad I decided to wait and see, I am normally there day one. Should be interesting to say the least.
Beer Monkey
Member
Day One Patch not out yet, and of course individual titles have the ability to require online DRM, just as they do today (see Bionic Commando Rearmed on PS3), not that Ghosts is doing that. Nothing to see here.
Still find myself curious as to -exactly- what Cboat was on about, but I agree.
FaintColt388301
Member
It was weird. They already said that publishers could put it in their games if they wanted. I don't see why he'd come out and confirm it other than for the luls. Unless MS is pushing for publishers to implement it on their system
I also can't wait til it drops, so we can end all the conspiracy nonsense.
It's pretty much been confirmed to death and back.
FaintColt388301
Member
It's going to be fun watching the comparison videos
By MS? Where?
Penello. See OP.
Those days have never gone. Just set your options to auto-boot game. It's only XBone that has this problem.
The Wii U day one update was pretty garbage as well. I guess the console still worked, but it was pretty painful. We're about to see with the PS4.
FaintColt388301
Member
I don't get how people jump in to a thread 16 pages in without reading the OP and think they have the solution to a problem that nobody has figured out yet
soul creator
Member
More accurately, the guy seems to have a Day -14 patch.
"This behavior is only because we are in pre-release."
Seems to suggest that it's not the Day 1 patch.