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Xbox One Hardware/UI Review Thread
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TonkuySlon
Banned
He didn't even read the sour content in question...smh...it's not a question of dissing a box...
RedNumberFive
Banned
Stay on message bro!
TonkuySlon
Banned
We'll have to agree to disagree...to me it's clear and full of condescension...calling anyone who has interest in the box, lazy, to dumb to know what to do with their money etc.
Nymphae
Banned
Shit is GROSS. Honestly don't see the point in forcing users to do this, they'll just say "Redbox" a few times until they learn what they have to say, then they'll just say fuck it I'm not jumping through that hoop every time, and be that much more soured on kinect functionality. The voice command stuff seems really strange at this point.
hdmi signals require processing prior to output, it is part of the spec thanks to hdcp, hence lag.
It is the only great summary of the XBO's technology that I have read. Good stuff. AnandTech puts gaming journalists to shame.
Static Jak
Member
Yeah, if I had an Xbox One right now, it'd be pretty hollow compared to the US users. I'd be missing one of the large selling points of the machine that seems to be a core part of it. I'd be getting a piece of the overall console but still pay a similar price.
On another note, I'm wondering how many outside of places like NeoGaf and so on knows about the changes made to the Xbox One. This is just going by my experience, but when I was at the gym a week ago I was talking to a few guys I know and all seemed to be set on the PS4.
But what got my attention was that none of them realised the policy changes. They still thought the whole shared games and check in stuff was there. And they aren't completely clueless when it comes to gaming, they just don't keep up to date which I'd presume is the way most are like. It seems like the negative aspects were was picked up more by word of mouth and just never corrected?
I'm just wondering if MS did enough to advertise the policy changes to the mass public or did they try to ignore it.
Though I can only see that possibly hurting very early sales and no more.
BronsonLee
Member
I have some good news.
boredandlazy
Member
Nope. My Denon receiver has none when I set it to game mode in the video settings.
Its a clever new ad platform that uses word association. Now anytime you use Redbox you're also thinking of Verizon! Eventually, we'll see others like "Flipboard by Motrin IB" and "Gametrailers by Doritos"
I definitely could be wrong, but that's what I was told.
deputyspade
Member
"It's not working" is what I got from most of the reviews. You are grossly over exaggerating the excitement surrounding the xb1 as well.
Looking pretty good on reviews for the UI stuff. Looking forward to getting my hands on this guy on Friday.
So salty.
So salty.
That's weird for a media box...
It's a big square box using IR blasters and video pass-through. It might have been designed in the late 90's before HDMI-CEC was around, just like the Tivo series 1
It sounds like the HDMI-in on the Xbox One doesn't have a pure passthrough mode. Forgive me if that has been answered, but if I hooked up a cable box to the XBO, does the XBO have to be on for me to watch cable through it? Or can it pass through the signal in standby mode? My receiver right now doesn't even have to be on, it can just pass through the signal from one of the inputs without any bother.
boredandlazy
Member
Salt meets salt?
BronsonLee
Member
Most devices worth their salt that have a passthrough now basically kill it dead. Receivers/cap cards and the like. It's a fairly recent development though.
I think it has to be on.
Most reviewers didnt't seem to know the commands.
Gizmodo has a video up where they used voice commands with no real issue.
D'ultimate
Member
So much this!
I'm on this site every.single.day! I don't feel the need to shit on other peoples choices. To each his own.
The PS4 is awesome. We get it. But not everyone is enamored with what it's offering and there's qute a few who like what the opposition is putting forth. Why is that so hard for so many to understand.
This has potential to become a new meme on GAF, nearly on the level of "I don't know what you know about Japan (I'm an expert)...".
BronsonLee
Member
I GREW UP WITH JAPAN
TonkuySlon
Banned
In my opinion the PS4 is awesome at cranking out graphics...honestly not much else appeals to me...that's fine though. I understand that many WANT this and I bless them. I want an all-in-one media hub...YES, even including TV.
Exactly. These sites are currently lying in order to make Xbox One appealing. Once people buy this console, they'll feel cheated for listening to them.
deputyspade
Member
Whatever helps you sleep at night.
TonkuySlon
Banned
#teamplaystation #thatavatar...That box could turn water into wine and somehow I doubt your opinion would change.
BronsonLee
Member
Cut this shit out, guys. It's a console, not a political party for crying out loud. Don't fall down this rabbit hole. :-
Nymphae
Banned
This voice command stuff is garbage, how did no one know this stuff before launch day?
Lolygon review:
Just, no. I'm not saying "Xbox play Assassin's Creed 4 Black Flag" every time. Why did they think people would be ok with this?
Also from their review:
That sentence just makes me laugh.
Lolygon review:
Just, no. I'm not saying "Xbox play Assassin's Creed 4 Black Flag" every time. Why did they think people would be ok with this?
Also from their review:
That sentence just makes me laugh.
I hope so. Maybe if I have time later I'll plow through this to see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI#Communication_channel_protocols I was under the impression that licensed passthrough devices required some handshake blah blah stuff all related to copy protections.
Ohh it would change. Ive allways liked the xbox brand.
And as for the avatar, its just a picture. Nothing else to it lol.
Im getting the xb1 at xmas also. No fanboy here.
What helps me sleep at night is playing the great games on both my Xbox One, and my PS4 (soon) while Jr's and others here spend more time trying to #saltup Xbox One threads then using their system of choice.
crazygambit
Member
I must have missed it, but what comes out in December?
TonkuySlon
Banned
Agreed...I'm just saying when you provide no substance to why you think something and just say not looking hot. I hope there is no intent to be taken seriously.
I'll move along!
cartoon_soldier
Member
No...it doesn't.
TonkuySlon
Banned
I'm not cool with that...but IMO stuff like this can be improved. If the box can understand the full command, there is no reason it can't understand Xbox, play Ryse!
Have you watched the video?
Each and every command he uses worked on first try.
http://vimeo.com/79823117
Most other videos, no one pauses after saying Xbox. Its how the thing differentiates between you saying xbox in a conversations like "check out my new xbox" and actually issuing a command.
crazygambit
Member
The fact that you have to know the commands it's exactly why it fails.
suddenlyissoon
Member
Now I've got to rack my brain all day trying to figure out how to use the TV feature with Surround from my directv
http://support.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-one/live-tv/digital-sound-not-working
http://support.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-one/live-tv/digital-sound-not-working
cartoon_soldier
Member
It's voice control which requires you to use specific commands. MS never claimed natural voice recognition like Siri or Google Now.
The ideal way to use the system is a mix of commands and controller.
Also, someone pointed out before, one big issue is people saying things in one word, you have to have a pause after Xbox (just like if you have Google Now you have to pause after saying "Ok Google") and then say the command.
Saying the whole thing should be scrapped is ridiculous.
deputyspade
Member
What does being a jr have to do with anything? If you don't like what you're seeing go browse the official xbox forums. Some of you appear to be going in to full on defense mode.
crazygambit
Member
I don't understand what you mean. Are you saying I'm wrong? 'Cause I'm just going by what The Verge wrote:
cartoon_soldier
Member
You are wrong in saying the whole thing should be scrapped/killed with fire. I have never had 100% success with any voice recognition apps I have used, Siri, Google Now. To say, it all should be done away with makes no sense.
SolidSnakeUS
Member
Reminds me of the Apple antenna-gate thing where they did the "You're holding it wrong." bullshit. In this case, it's "You're saying it wrong."
That's weird for a media box...
I though that bit was wrong, the Xbox one does have hdmi-cec but uses the ir blaster for boxes that don't support it, at least that's what I thought they said
Exactly, its how the system will differentiate if you are using Xbox conversationally while talking to someone, and actually issuing a command. Otherwise the Xbox will attempt to do something each and everytime you say xbox.
crazygambit
Member
Maybe not directly, but certainly the implication was there. They've talked time and time again about how powerful and next gen the new Kinect is, how it is the future. That plus the infinite power of the cloud makes you think it's going to work at least as well as stuff that's been out for years already.
If it doesn't I think it's a non starter in a casual household. People nowadays don't have the patience to learn commands for something like this. They just can't be bothered. If Kinect never evolves to function with natural language then I honestly don't see the point in voice commands.
Zen_Arcade
Banned
Not to mention that you can scrap it by unplugging your Kinect and ignoring it if you want.