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[Vizzeh]

Alright, fuck it. I'm going all in with the Samsung EVO SSD.

Problem is, I've got stuff saved on my PS4 drive currently. What's the best way to clone or copy that stuff off the drive so that when I swap the SSD in, its like nothing changed.

There are ways to do it, but will be a complete pain, inc using cloning software + connecting both drives to the PC.

I would recommend you just back up your saves, instructed here: https://support.us.playstation.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5107

Then re-download any digital games etc (fresh install)

I need help Gaf. The Seage Hybrid drive I bought arrived today and I put it in the console, but when I boot it, it goes straight to Safe mode asking me to update the FW to 1.51

I've tried updating both from the Internet and from a USB stick but it says an error occured. Can anyone who did this procedure help me please? EU PS4 here by the way.

Are you sure you are trying to reinstall the software using the instructions here: http://us.playstation.com/support/systemupdates/ps4/new-install/#installationSteps

Reinitialize PS4 software, The USB is Formatted in fat32, has a folder named "PS4" then "UPDATE" and are using the 800mb+ File? not the 300mb update (I had to re-format my USB drive in Fat32, even tho I was sure it already was, worked fine 2nd time)

 

[Pirzolaman]

There are ways to do it, but will be a complete pain, inc using cloning software + connecting both drives to the PC.

I would recommend you just back up your saves, instructed here: https://support.us.playstation.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5107

Then re-download any digital games etc (fresh install)


Are you sure you are trying to reinstall the software using the instructions here: http://us.playstation.com/support/systemupdates/ps4/new-install/#installationSteps

Reinitialize PS4 software, The USB is Formatted in fat32, has a folder named "PS4" then "UPDATE" and are using the 800mb+ File? not the 300mb update (I had to re-format my USB drive in Fat32, even tho I was sure it already was, worked fine 2nd time)

Umm the update file I've download is just 300mb and that's the only one available. Where can I get the 800mb one?

 

[Vizzeh]

Umm the update file I've download is just 300mb and that's the only one available. Where can I get the 800mb one?

Thats your issue, thats a manual patch update, the 800mb+ file is the OS, will update.. If you wish to manualy download it, it is under the "download now" in the Playstation link.

Or here is their link direct http://dus01.ps4.update.playstation...18a99ff70ce3193aeab3e95160379d6/PS4UPDATE.PUP

 

[Pirzolaman]

Thats your issue, thats a manual patch update, the 800mb+ file is the OS, will update

I'm confused :S What did you mean by "will update"?

 

[Vizzeh]

I'm confused :S What did you mean by "will update"?

I meant I will update my post with a link, soz

 

[Pirzolaman]

I meant I will update my post with a link, soz

Ah OK. Btw you did upgrade your HDD right?

 

[Vizzeh]

Ah OK. Btw you did upgrade your HDD right?

Yeah, im using a Seagate momentus XT Hybrid 8GB SSD/7200RPM Physical.

800MB file is in the above post

 

[Pirzolaman]

Yeah, im using a Seagate momentus XT Hybrid 8GB SSD/7200RPM Physical.

800MB file is in the above post

Thanks a lot but umm, where did you get the link from? I've been searching and searching and the only update file I could fine on playstation.com is the 300 mb one :/

 

[jcm]

Thanks a lot but umm, where did you get the link from? I've been searching and searching and the only update file I could fine on playstation.com is the 300 mb one :/

This is the Sony PS4 HDD upgrade instructions page.

That page links to this page, which explains how to put the firmware on a blank drive In the middle of that page is a button that says Download Now, which is a link to the 800MB firmware file.

 

[Pirzolaman]

Thank you so much guys, the 800mb file did the trick!

 

[XblogPSN]

This is the Sony PS4 HDD upgrade instructions page.

That page links to this page, which explains how to put the firmware on a blank drive In the middle of that page is a button that says Download Now, which is a link to the 800MB firmware file.

it's the complet system file but 1.50 or 1.51 inside ?

 

[th4tguy]

Which are downloaded and which are from the disc? As that makes quite the difference it seems.

All are downloaded.

 

[jcm]

Anyone looking for an SSD might want to check out this 512GB Toshiba Q Series at Newegg. It's $285 if you use promo code NEWEGGBLKFRI5B

it's the complet system file but 1.50 or 1.51 inside ?

Sorry, I'm not sure. I assume it's 1.51, but I don't know that for a fact.

 

[cormack12]

it's the complet system file but 1.50 or 1.51 inside ?

The link says:

Support: System Software Updates
PlayStation®4 System Software Version 1.51
Perform a new installation of the system software

 

[Final Boss]

Is there ANY instructions of HD transfer info? I've asked this a few times in this thread, I've decided to use the stock HD for the time being until the SSD prices drop to something affordable for 1TB.

 

[dallow_bg]

Is there ANY instructions of HD transfer info? I've asked this a few times in this thread, I've decided to use the stock HD for the time being until the SSD prices drop to something affordable for 1TB.

There are none other than back up your saves to the Cloud or USB.
Everything else you need to redownload.

 

[jcm]

Is there ANY instructions of HD transfer info? I've asked this a few times in this thread, I've decided to use the stock HD for the time being until the SSD prices drop to something affordable for 1TB.

What are you looking for that isn't covered by the instructions I linked to 6 posts earlier? Backup to USB or cloud, swap the drives, and restore. Seems pretty straightforward.

 

[despire]

How do you guys feel about ordering HDD's online? Is there a bigger chance of getting one DOA since AFAIK hard drives can be a bit sensitive to rough handling (correct me if I'm wrong).

Just that the supply is a bit limited where I live (we have the Seagate SSHD but I'm not sure if I should wait for better ones) and I'm thinking about ordering one from Ebay etc..

 

[Ephemeris]

How do you guys feel about ordering HDD's online? Is there a bigger chance of getting one DOA since AFAIK hard drives can be a bit sensitive to rough handling (correct me if I'm wrong).

Just that the supply is a bit limited where I live (we have the Seagate SSHD but I'm not sure if I should wait for better ones) and I'm thinking about ordering one from Ebay etc..

I've been buying drives online for like, 10 years now at least. I'd say aim for someone/somewhere reputable.

 

[despire]

I've been buying drives online for like, 10 years now at least. I'd say aim for someone/somewhere reputable.

It's just that I would be probably ordering them from either UK or US or somewhere else so the distance is rather long (I live in Finland).

How are the drives built nowadays? Are the sensitive to rough handling?

Edit:
Now that I'm here, should I just get the Seagate SSHD or is there something worthwhile coming in the near future?

 

[Radec]

btw, newegg is selling Toshiba SSD 512GB for $284.99

your PS4 can handle this bad boy.

 

[Final Boss]

There are none other than back up your saves to the Cloud or USB.
Everything else you need to redownload.

What are you looking for that isn't covered by the instructions I linked to 6 posts earlier? Backup to USB or cloud, swap the drives, and restore. Seems pretty straightforward.

Missed that, thanks

 

[Metfanant]

How do you guys feel about ordering HDD's online? Is there a bigger chance of getting one DOA since AFAIK hard drives can be a bit sensitive to rough handling (correct me if I'm wrong).

Just that the supply is a bit limited where I live (we have the Seagate SSHD but I'm not sure if I should wait for better ones) and I'm thinking about ordering one from Ebay etc..

Look at it this way...the HDD is probably made somewhere in Asia...it has to be shipped thousands of miles to get to your brick and mortar store...by ship/air/truck....

I don't think one more trip in a shipping box is going to cause any problems

 

[IAmRandom31]

I timed my standby boot @ 16 seconds yesterday. Multiple times. So dunno, def. wasn't 25 seconds.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

Ordered my Seagate 1TB SSHD from here. Hopefully it arrive on or before launch day next week (EU). Seems like the best compromise between space, price and speed to me anyway.

This thing is great. I don't think I've had any loading issues except NFS which is just not optimized enough since you have to load into the game and into the garage and back to map every time.

 

[Katana_Strikes]

Hmmm, 1TB SSHD or 720RPM HDD??

SSHD is just over £10 more expensive.

 

[Kysen]

The 8GB nand in the SSHD just isn't large enough, I'm going with a 7200 drive instead.

 

[Raistlin]

Has anyone heard word on when the WD Black SSHD's will be available for retail? They will be making 1TB / 24GB cache versions.

http://techreport.com/news/24783/wd-explains-hybrid-tech-behind-black-sshds


As far as I know they've been or will soon be shipping to OEM's. However retail has yet to be announced to my knowledge. It's a bit frustrating given they were shown off at CES almost a year ago.



Anyway, I think this or a similar unit may prove to be quite performant in a PS4.

 

[Katana_Strikes]

Where's the instructions for doing the HDD replacement and boot up process?

Thanks!

 

[mrklaw]

Where's the instructions for doing the HDD replacement and boot up process?

Thanks!

1) Download the 1.51 European recovery software and put it on a fat32 formatted USB stick in /PS4/UPDATE folder

2) Slide glossy cover off PS4

3) unscrew fancy playstation branded screw, slide out HDD

4) unscrew from cradle, put new drive in, screw into cradle

5) slot HDD back in, screw in fancy playstation screw

6) put glossy cover back on

7) insert USB stick, hold down PS4 power button for over 7 seconds to boot into safe mode

8) select "Reinstall System Software”

9) install from USB stick

10) done.

 

[Tunesmith]

Where's the instructions for doing the HDD replacement and boot up process?

Thanks!

1) Upgrade PS4 HDD

2) Perform a new installation of the system software

 

[Katana_Strikes]

1) Download the 1.51 European recovery software and put it on a fat32 formatted USB stick in /PS4/UPDATE folder

2) Slide glossy cover off PS4

3) unscrew fancy playstation branded screw, slide out HDD

4) unscrew from cradle, put new drive in, screw into cradle

5) slot HDD back in, screw in fancy playstation screw

6) put glossy cover back on

7) insert USB stick, hold down PS4 power button for over 7 seconds to boot into safe mode

8) select "Reinstall System Software”

9) install from USB stick

10) done.

Much thankness to you!

 

[Metfanant]

Hmmm, 1TB SSHD or 720RPM HDD??

SSHD is just over £10 more expensive.

personally im going to go with a 1TB 7200rpm drive...im not sold on the idea of such small flash partitions on the SSHD drives being a real world benefit for the PS4...too much is accessed from the HDD this gen....

i think id rather have the consistent speed increase of 7200 over 5400 than hoping by chance the right files are cached on the SSHD...im really hoping that someone puts the HGST 7200rpm drive on sale black friday/cyber monday

 

[Katana_Strikes]

personally im going to go with a 1TB 7200rpm drive...im not sold on the idea of such small flash partitions on the SSHD drives being a real world benefit for the PS4...too much is accessed from the HDD this gen....

i think id rather have the consistent speed increase of 7200 over 5400 than hoping by chance the right files are cached on the SSHD...im really hoping that someone puts the HGST 7200rpm drive on sale black friday/cyber monday

It's what I ended up going for. It's a little cheaper and doesn't seem to be too much difference in speed. It's still faster than the stock. That'll do for me.

 

[Pegasos123]

where can i download the 1.51 EU recovery file?
couldnt find it via google...

 

[Katana_Strikes]

where can i download the 1.51 EU recovery file?
couldnt find it via google...

http://deu01.ps4.update.playstation...0ce3193aeab3e95160379d6/PS4UPDATE.PUP?dest=eu

I believe.

 

[Dead Prince]

HDD Installed (model # & size): Seagate STBD1000400 1TB SSHD
Cost of HDD: $129
Boot from cold to menu time: 22 seconds
Boot from standby to menu time: 24 seconds
Game boot times (from XMB to menu/start, Disk/Digital):

I'm a little iffy on the boot to menu. is that when you see the menu or when it loads the menu and show stuff on it? because my times may be off and i can redo it.

EDIT: I redid the test time.

boot from cold to menu (when first icon shows): 22
boot from standby to menu (when first icon shows) 24 seconds
NFS (Digital) XMB to Press X: 33 seconds
BF4 (Physical) XMB to Press Option Button: 45 seconds
Resogun: XMB to Press X: 25 Second
AC4 (Physical) XMB to Press X: 37 Seconds


so far it's much slow: Verdict: don't buy.

 

[Brohan]

All are downloaded.

Thanks for confirming, had a feeling this was the case.

Digital seems to have quite the speed advantage on the PS4.

 

[DrunkDan]

I posted this in the European Waiting thread but if there is anybody from the UK waiting to grab the Seagate sshd I actually just ordered the Seagate 1tb sshd from pixmania for £77.99. Seems to be a special offer at the moment, looks like it lasts another 2 days or so.

http://www.pixmania.co.uk/2-5-inch-i...FSsKwwodBkUADA

It says 2-4 day delivery so I thought I might as well give it a go. It doesn't specifically say SEAGATE ST1000LM014 (and I'm almost certain that's the one mentioned in a few threads here and elsewhere?) but that's what I searched for to find it.

Hope that helps anybody still looking to get one before launch.

 

[Night Hunter]

Bought a Samsung Series 840 Evo 500 GB SSD today, come at me PS4! My body is ready!

 

[dallow_bg]

Has anyone heard word on when the WD Black SSHD's will be available for retail? They will be making 1TB / 24GB cache versions.

http://techreport.com/news/24783/wd-explains-hybrid-tech-behind-black-sshds


As far as I know they've been or will soon be shipping to OEM's. However retail has yet to be announced to my knowledge. It's a bit frustrating given they were shown off at CES almost a year ago.



Anyway, I think this or a similar unit may prove to be quite performant in a PS4.

Seems to be OEM only but, these were these posted earlier. 16GB NAND version.
http://m.ebay.com/itm?itemId=281201174770

There was worry that special Win drivers were needed to activate the NAND portion of the drive though.

 

[Dead Prince]

HDD Installed (model # & size): Seagate STBD1000400 1TB SSHD
Cost of HDD: $129
Boot from cold to menu time:
Boot from standby to menu time:
Game boot times (from XMB to menu/start, Disk/Digital):

I'm a little iffy on the boot to menu. is that when you see the menu or when it loads the menu and show stuff on it? because my times may be off and i can redo it.

hm. not used this for long. but it seems to have started to get bogged down. i noticed that while on the XMB it froze a bit. and after that when i started to play knack. the music would cut in and out. hmm.

 

[Final Boss]

Bought a Samsung Series 840 Evo 500 GB SSD today, come at me PS4! My body is ready!

Nice, personally I can't stomach paying for an HD that's more expensive then the system (paid $299.99 for PS4)

 

[Night Hunter]

Nice, personally I can't stomach paying for an HD that's more expensive then the system (paid $299.99 for PS4)

I only paid 239€ for the SDD, down from 299 (Amazon Germany Cyber Monday Week Blitz-offer), so it's still expensive, but I wanted a SDD anyway.

 

[admartian]

Wait so did I read this graph right? The Toshiba MQ01ABD100 is faster than some 7200RPM drives, and more or less not far of from some of the SSHDs?

http://pricespy.co.nz/product.php?p=1209464

 

[No_Style]

This WD Black^2 w/ 1TB platter and 120GB of NAND space would have been very compelling for the PS4 if it had built in caching software and priced a little lower.

 

[DBT85]

Wait so did I read this graph right? The Toshiba MQ01ABD100 is faster than some 7200RPM drives, and more or less not far of from some of the SSHDs?

http://pricespy.co.nz/product.php?p=1209464

It's a slight anomaly and there were no other times to use. The entire thread is mostly useless as people measure differently, and a bunch of folk didn't bother reporting back.

I just did this.

 

[Night Hunter]

I just did this.

Got the same one

But that price. 320€ is harsh.

 

[DBT85]

Got the same one

But that price. 320€ is harsh.

Cheapest in the UK as far as I could see.

 

[nib95]

The load times on DRIVECLUB are seriously quick, even with just the stock HDD

Can't wait to find out how much faster SSHD/SSD are going to be!

It's awesome you guys are keeping tabs on this thread. Have you experimented with different drives yourself? Or just stuck with stock only? As in for your personal PS4, not the dev kits obviously.