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Persona 5 - First details from Dengeki
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Broswagonist.
Who actually liked Kenji? Is that even possible?
Yes, but not in full white mask awesome form.
zerokoolpsx
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A threesome. I guess she liked it kinky and busy.
A threesome. I guess she liked it kinky and busy.
By my count, that's a foursome (seriously though people, don't read those spoilers if you haven't beaten P4, that is a joke you don't need to understand).
I agree. With P3P it was easy to rotate Yukari into the BFF role from Junpei, but who would have done that with Yosuke? Chie and Yukiko were already super tight so a FeMC would have been a third wheel there. You also would have had to rewrite a significant portion of Rise's dialogue. There was also just a whole lot more scenes in P4 that involved separating the boys and the girls that would have to be changed.
I admit, Philemon made Persona 1 a lot more tolerable.
Murder. She Wrote
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I'm currently playing as the femc in p3p, and for Persona 4... well let's just say before I hooked up with Naoto, I tried to get into Kanji's pants
And he was a nice prominent character in P2 Duology.
Yep, but Persona 2 is tolerable to begin with so it's icing on the cake.
It would be great as long as the MC is female as well. #basedgarden
ChosenPredator
Banned
fuck i dont want to buy a ps3 just for this game..but i might have to ugghhh
But would you really?
You probably would.
Rise swings both way, the signs are clear as day.
Pursuing her true swag
I really hate that aspect of modern Persona. I was pretty surprised when I saw what happened during the first social link I finished in P3 (the soccer coach). Then it happened with most female social links... and yeah. I'm glad P4 added the option to avoid those scenes, but still every female character still falls in love with the MC despite what you do.
I'm hoping social links have real interactions this time around. When I finished P3 I really hoped they would expand on the social link concept. Have the stories be able to progress in multiple ways and if your actions did not align in some way with the arcana, maybe even break them forever (of course all these things would have battle implications).
Sakura
Member
No harem shit in my Persona. Chie is the only woman I need.
I'd be shipping everyone x everyone
zerokoolpsx
Member
They could have personas from their respective arcana have -10% to -50% lower stats and deal less damage for having a reverse social link. More prone to get debuffs and get critically hit.
I don't see them doing something drastic like that. It could potentially make it so that some people could only play the game with fool, judgement, and other auto-leveled s-links.
Sounds good to me. Remove any kind of auto leveled social links while you are at it as well.
That's would be my dream P3 style game.
Internal alignment for MC based on story and social link decisions. This effects how well you can interact with all the social links. Social link progress slowed down dramatically so you aren't sitting on a ton of finished ones by the games half way point. If your alignment is too far off from a certain social link you cannot progress anymore (or it breaks completely).
I just love the concept of these games. Love the calendar system, love the half adventure half dungeon crawler aspect. But they just don't go far enough.
EDIT: They need a base building aspect too.
Same here!
When the dungeon crawling stops sucking, maybe I'll feel the same. I play these games more for the slice of life routine than the dungeons themselves.
Same, its excessive to the point that it does come off a bit as pandering.
The idea I had when I was theorizing how they could improve it (realistically) a while back was a branching social link system.
In the last 2 or 3 stages of the social link, your answers throughout the social link determine what sort of friendship you develop with the character. Are you a mentor? Rivals? Best friends? Love interest? Each social link could develop in 3 different ways, and the last 2 or 3 stages show it cementing itself a certain way.
It'd change some of the endgame content/dialogue to be specific to how you played the game. For party members, it'd give a different move they learn in the last stage or two, or they could have some stat progression variances. That way, some gameplay would be effected by it.
The problem with that though is then people feel like they HAVE to romance a particular character if they are going for a very hard run or something. For example, what if you could only romance one character in P4 and the one you chose would have their battle ability come up more often. Everyone would be picking Chie because then she could just remove everything from the fight with her galactic kick.
bishopcruz
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Come on, Junpei was far and away the BFF in P3P in both routes. Hell he was a better friend to the FeMC than anyone else. Best Bromance ever.
Hm? I meant stuff like Agidyne, God's Hand, or whatever. In battle skills. Generally, I think this is minor enough that if you're playing it for more casual fun where the social link's outcomes have more meaning, then these little changes don't make a huge difference.
Sort of hard to combine any updates to the social link system with the runs that are meant to extreme challenges.
Well it's on their end to balance the game in a way that the best option isn't the most obvious. Rise's max social link skill in P4G is just ridiculous and game breaking. You are telling me they actually tested this thing?
They could re-introduce character building into Persona. Everyone character could be a little different and as a result there wouldn't be any one skill that's suited for all players.
I agree with your comment earlier though, decent dungeons and combat have to come first.
No, obviously they didn't test it but that is the prime example I could have used instead. Imagine if you had to romance Rise and no one else to unlock that? Then it becomes the auto choice if you want to run on a challenging mode. Kind of shitty for a game like persona where the focus is more on the cast and story than the gameplay.
cj_iwakura
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Have more faith in Hashino's team than that. If they're doing it again, they're going to do something unique with it. P4 had the countryside motif, for example.
It's almost as disheartening as when I found out the next Zelda game stars Link. Ugh! Come on guys, change it up already!
Hmmm. Life sized characters? Realism? Cool I guess. As long as they don't deviate too far from the style and tone we've come to love from the series.
But if you could have multiple skills a character could learn, wouldn't that be the perfect chance to make it so that you make that NOT an issue? It would be as simple as having skills distributed across multiple social links rather than be exclusive to one character.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I hope that means catherine style models.
I think everyone expected catherine style models considering it was a testbed for persona 5.
Poetic.Injustice
Member
No more deformed character models I hope.
Good.
If the realism also applies to the time system, that means drinking Coffee or talking to a Fox won't take an entire damn day.
It doesn't say realism, it says a sense of realism practical realism to give players more credulity, not graphical realism.
Basically, Catherine.
Isn't Japanese College life totally different than the Western and specifically USA norm? Just for that I'll live, but if they decided to do a exchange student United States football town University Persona....oh god the mammaries!
Yes. Japanese universities don't feel like "school" the same way American ones do.
People were hoping for a university scenario for what reason? Because they can't relate to high schoolers and want a more 'mature' story? Persona story lines are plenty mature as it is. Just because you're growing up doesn't mean the characters have to age as well.
Persona is about contextualizing social issues and personal conflicts during a formative period of your life when you're trying to work out your identity. Like your teenage years.
I am thoroughly convinced the only reason that people want a Persona in college isn't for anything that it could possibly change (and it wouldn't really change anything fundamentally) and more because they want to be taken seriously or feel comfortable showing it to other people.
Also the people who want Persona: Office Simulator who I literally cannot understand.
Admiral Snackbar
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I knew I liked you for a reason.
thetrin
Hail, peons, for I have come as ambassador from the great and bountiful Blueberry Butt Explosion
Someone didn't play Persona 2 EP!
Because adults are more interesting than high school kids.