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[rCIZZLE]

Here's most of my reasons for choosing console over PC.

level playing field
less "hackers"
more games I care about
no upgrading required to play the newest games as they were intended
better for local multiplayer
ability to trade in physical copies of games

They may not all be bulletproof reasons but there's enough of them that I'm not going to be spending $800+ on a gaming PC anytime soon.

 

[jim-jam bongs]

Can I play sony's first party IP's on PC?

Because those are quite dear to me and I rank them pretty high

No, but you could always get a PS4 to play those on while playing all the multiplatform stuff with the best fidelity possible on a PC. You'd also have the widest range of control options, cheapest prices and free online for those games.

Pretty sweet deal if you ask me.

 

[IncandescentPrecept]

"I just got both GOTY edition Batman games for under $3 and they all vastly out perform their console counter parts!" that kind of joy

edit: just going to throw this out there: I fucking LOVE that I don't have to deal with my NAT settings on my PC. That has been my biggest hinderance this ENTIRE generation on both PS3 and X360. Went from playing Gears everyday with friends to never playing online for years because I could never join a game with my friends. Something that I could never fix no matter how hard I tinkered.

I'm not sure what NAT settings are tbh. Those few dollars of savings on the Batman games - do you think people on this forum don't know that they can have those if they go to PC? I know I do (even though I think PS+ beats all) and I don't know about other people but that still does not make me want to change gaming platforms.

 

[Nzyme32]

talk is cheap nvidia, your products aren't, step your game up

I'm a PC guy through and through, but this is really not gonna sell anyone, do something and show products. You don't need to ever talk about the competition, just demonstrate that your products are excellent and good value, the later of which, just ain't happening.

 

[Herne]

Whynotboth.jpg ?

They're not saying play pc's exclusively, they said gamers should keep their options open and consider the new pc in the living room/Steam Machines initiative. That post is the very opposite of what they said.

 

[Seanspeed]

I'm not sure what NAT settings are tbh. Those few dollars of savings on the Batman games - do you think people on this forum don't know that they can have those if they go to PC? I know I do (even though I think PS+ beats all) and I don't know about other people but that still does not make me want to change gaming platforms.

Good for you. Nobody is demanding you change platforms, though.

 

[-MD-]

no upgrading required to play the newest games as they were intended

That PS4 you bought was a $430 upgrade.

 

[IncandescentPrecept]

Good for you. Nobody is demanding you change platforms, though.

By the looks of it, Nvidia is.

 

[injurai]

Great Job!

Nvidia, please load up Celery Man.

...

...

and uhh

...

turn up the 4D3D3D3

 

[Pavaloo]

I'm not sure what NAT settings are tbh. Those few dollars of savings on the Batman games - do you think people on this forum don't know that they can have those if they go to PC? I know I do (even though I think PS+ beats all) and I don't know about other people but that still does not make me want to change gaming platforms.

NAT settings were just restrictions in network security that prevented me from joining or chatting with my friends online. It was a big blow to me and still is a big deal when I want to play something like GTA V online. I only expect the problem to persist on the PS4 and Xbox One.

It's not even about being unaware of said sales, it's just that they happen fairly regularly on PC and it's rare that I ever pay more than $40 for a game. It's fine if that doesn't sway you, but there definitely is an intense joy among PC gamers every time Steam has a sale or a new Humble Bundle is released.

By the looks of it, Nvidia is.

Where did they demand?

Yeah, but PS3 is 7 years old. A PC will get obsolete and possibly have difficulty playing the newest games in year, let alone 7 years.

My PC should last me the next seven years as it's stronger than a PS4 or XBONE, I don't see myself upgrading until the middle of this generation? Even then it would be one part of my entire machine. I could just not upgrade all generation and still run games better than their console counterparts.

 

[Rhazer Fusion]

That PS4 you bought was a $430 upgrade.

Yeah, but PS3 is 7 years old. A PC will get obsolete and possibly have difficulty playing the newest games in year, let alone 7 years.

 

[Jtrizzy]

A lot of it comes down to money tbh. I think the ideal setup is PC/WiiU/PS4 right now. If I could only afford one per generation, I could understand going PS4 only. Personally, I think Nintendo's exclusives are the only ones worth choosing a console over, and the big 3rd party AAA games are superior to MS/Sony exclusive AAA games. Just my opinion though.

 

[-MD-]

A PC will get obsolete and possibly have difficulty playing the newest games in year

Lol what?

 

[jim-jam bongs]

By the looks of it, Nvidia is.

You do know that the Nvidia Gestapo aren't going to kick down your door and take away your consoles if you buy a PC, right?

 

[SwiftDeath]

From the games I play, Sonic & All Stars Racing Transformed and Rayman Legends support it, and some Valve games do with some tinkering. Apart from that, you're probably better off with the Wii U for that considering Nintendo has stated several times they don't want to do online multiplayer, and most of their games will be designed around local. Couldn't be a better coincidence!

More detailed list on Reddit.

Thanks yeah think I may grab a Wii U for that then

 

[fuzzyreactor]

Well said.



lol

funny cause it's true

 

[coldfoot]

PC as a platform is based on freedom, if someone wants a HTPC as the hub of whatever they're trying to do, then why stop them?

I have a PC that I assembled myself in my entertainment center. I am not against people doing what they want. But fuck anyone who tries to argue its as convenient as having a console because it's far from it. Windows itself isn't designed for the living room it's designed for the desk. I've tried numerous wireless keyboards from ones that are the size of an iPhone to full sized ones and everything in between. As long as your PC is running windows you will need to reach for the kb m from time to time and that will never work in the living room.

For desks PCs are unmatched no contest.

 

[-MD-]

funny cause it's true

A computer problem arises and it takes 3 weeks to diagnose and fix?

 

[Vulcano's assistant]

Yeah, but PS3 is 7 years old. A PC will get obsolete and possibly have difficulty playing the newest games in year, let alone 7 years.

Just because Sethos is playing games at 4k doesn't mean you have to, or else your system is obsolete.

 

[Seanspeed]

By the looks of it, Nvidia is.

I must have missed that part somewhere, because its certainly not in the OP.

 

[Jtrizzy]

Great Job!

Nvidia, please load up Celery Man.

turn up the 4D3D3D3

 

[SwiftDeath]

A computer problem arises and it takes 3 weeks to diagnose and fix?

[jenniferlawrencebeingawesome.gif]

Uh that happens, not very often but it does so I'm not sure what you mean?

 

[IncandescentPrecept]

NAT settings were just restrictions in network security that prevented me from joining or chatting with my friends online.

It's not even about being unaware of said sales, it's just that they happen fairly regularly on PC and it's rare that I ever pay more than $40 for a game. It's fine if that doesn't sway you, but there definitely is an intense joy among PC gamers every time Steam has a sale or a new Humble Bundle is released.

In the past few years, I only paid more than $25 for one game only (TLoU at full price). I'm not sure about the joy that people get from Steam sales - is it because of the sales themselves or the games? But my point is - you cannot really spread the love here as we all know about the steam sales.

 

[fuzzyreactor]

A computer problem arises and it takes 3 weeks to diagnose and fix?

depending on what it is and your knowledge of pc, it can take awhile.

With a console, you will never have to tinker with hardware, drivers, files to get a game to play. There has been a few times when I bought a game and was not able to play it on pc until i did a bunch of research to fix an issue. Heck, I still can't get GTA4 to play right.

This alone is one reason I will always be a console gamer. I just don't have the time for that.

 

[Warhol]

$400 vs $1000+

They aren't convincing me of anything.

 

[fuzzyreactor]

$400 vs $1000+

They aren't convincing me of anything.

here comes the $400 "comparable" pc builds that lack a crap load of stuff you would need to actually use it.

 

[UrbanRats]

Yeah, but PS3 is 7 years old. A PC will get obsolete and possibly have difficulty playing the newest games in year, let alone 7 years.

No.
Unless you always expect to be playing with everything maxed out forever (a requirement you absolutely do not have on consoles) you will be just fine.

 

[-MD-]

$400 vs $1000+

They aren't convincing me of anything.

Don't forget the $50 a year to play online, that factors in too.

Also the more expensive games.

 

[Xanadu]

No thanks salty. Consoles for me.

you're missing out

 

[Vulcano's assistant]

I don't understand why you guys need to apologize for not being their target audience. Hell I don't own a pickup truck, and I don't feel like Ford is trying to make me buy one just because the add tells me that it is the vehicle you need to have to do men's work or something.

 

[Wynnebeck]

The thing is - people aren't lauding PC gaming because of insecurity or a desire for reassurance for their choice. Its just that we kinda want to spread the joy to other people, people that often have a very twisted or incomplete view of what PC gaming is like. Your comment, for example, about how the PC is more powerful and that people don't care. Well, for one, people obviously DO care quite a bit if you've been paying attention to the PS4 vs Xbox news around here the past few months. Two, PC gaming does a lot more than just provide better graphics.

We keep having to say this stuff because people don't listen and we still hear the same tired arguments over and over. There are perfectly valid reasons to decide against PC gaming, but I don't think nearly enough people give it a fair think over and there's quite a few gaming enthusiasts who are likely missing out and don't even realize it.

You misunderstand my statement about people not caring. I'm not saying that people in general don't care because it's not true, the millions of people around the world will tell you differently. I'm saying that if PC gaming were such the greater choice as people try to lead others to believe, the PS4 and Xbone wouldn't have just sold 2+ million within weeks of their releases and we would be seeing a greater increase in revenue coming into the enthusiast market for GPUs from Nvidia and so forth. The reason there is so much emphasis on the comparisons between PCs and consoles now is because we are hitting a point where games can look at run at parity with their PC counterparts, not to mention with exclusive franchises that can't be played anywhere else but consoles.

I understand PC people feel as if console folk are dismissing them without giving a fair shot and in some instances it's true. However, when you have the convenience that a console brings with an established "economy" between brick and mortar and the consumer with purchasing, trading, and used games and a plethora of exclusive software that can not be played on a PC platform, it's not hard to see why people are more apt to using a console for games as opposed to a PC. Don't get me wrong though, I love my PC gaming. I specifically bought Tomb Raider, Bioshock Infinite, and especially DmC on PC this year because I wanted to run them at the best possible resolution and framerate possible. I still go back and forth between PC and console because in reality, that's the best possible choice. I wouldn't say that playing console exclusive is a bad thing though.

 

[RK9039]

$400 vs $1000+

They aren't convincing me of anything.

Enjoy microtransactions to unlock features locked onto your full retail games.

Spoiler

It's just a joke okay, don't hate the player hate the game

.

 

[SwiftDeath]

I don't understand why you guys need to apologize for not being their target audience. Hell I don't own a pickup truck, and I don't feel like Ford is trying to make me buy one just because the add tells me that it is the vehicle you need to have to do men's work or something.

Are you trying to downplay my work as not being "men's work" because I don't have a pickup truck?

This thread is starting to get serious up in here

Spoiler

/s

 

[Nozem]

But I wrote cheap and easy to use. I didn't ignore his points, I recognized their validity.

You were faster than my edit.

 

[mephixto]

Yeah, but PS3 is 7 years old. A PC will get obsolete and possibly have difficulty playing the newest games in year, let alone 7 years.

The main problem with PC is not obsolete hardware, you could tune up the setting to keep the pefomance and quality at par or better of a console. The real problem is once you go High or Ultra setting you get spoiled and you can't tolerate degrading the IQ for perfomance and of course this cause you to upgrade your PC every 2 years or less.

 

[Pavaloo]

In the past few years, I only paid more than $25 for one game only (TLoU at full price). I'm not sure about the joy that people get from Steam sales - is it because of the sales themselves or the games? But my point is - you cannot really spread the love here as we all know about the steam sales.

It's a combination. The games, the prices, and the performance. It all equates to real joy. I'm sure you're aware, but you're in a thread about nvidia. Just like I'm aware of PS+, but I have to hear about in Xbox threads.

 

[evil solrac v3.0]

This is the sort if attitude console people are upset about. Is the PC the most powerful platform? Yes. Do people really care? Not really. Nvidia's statements for the last how many months have been throwing consoles to the wayside or trying to undermine their strengths against a PC and call it advertising. The PC people on GAF making it their business to laud the platform over consoles at every wake and turn does no favors either.

um... PS4 and XBone fans do the same shit in this very forum. PS3 was the most powerful platform and people talked about it non-stop. the same with PS4 and the non-sense with GDDR5 RAM, people were openly masturbating when that got announced. but a PC video card manufacturer starts talking about the vast and obvious power difference and now what? can't handle it? why is it attitude from PC players and manufacturers bit normal for console players?

I'd like to be serious here just for a bit.

How does nvidia think they can win the hearts and minds of consoles gamers, like myself, and convert them to pc when all they do is try to degrade consoles? Their PR over the past year or so has just turned me more off to their products and pc gaming in general.

meh

it's a piece of plastic, there's nothing to degrade. do you get upset at advertisements on TV, Radio, Magazines and the internet?

Good for them, they can think that all they like.
I have and I will limit my decision though, sorry but nope! Not interested. 25 years of PC gaming and it was great, I loved it, I really did but I'm too old, too tired and can't be fucked. Yes it's gotten easier, yes often games are cheaper, yes very very often games look better and some types of games control better.
Don't care! I love the plug and play simplicity of a console, I like the games which come to console, single player focused gaming kicked ass on the PS3 for the last 5 years.

The most important thing, for me though is time. By isolating myself to one platform, yeah sure I'm theoretically missing out - but it also allows me to branch out to different games on the platform I have chosen, I try more obscure games than I normally would.
I can't afford the time to be online and research the latest and greatest 360, Wii U, Xbox One and PC games anymore. I can't do it.

1. what does age have to do with anything?
2. I laugh at your second statement considering the most popular and bet selling games on PS3, 360 were multiplayer FPS games. and I hope the irony of branching out to different games on consoles isn't lost on you....

which is better than spending 3 weeks trying to figure why your PC isn't working like it should be

maybe it's goblins inside....

 

[Finaika]

$400 vs $1000+

They aren't convincing me of anything.

There are Nvidia cards that are less than $400.

 

[patapuf]

I have a PC that I assembled myself in my entertainment center. I am not against people doing what they want. But fuck anyone who tries to argue its as convenient as having a console because it's far from it. Windows itself isn't designed for the living room it's designed for the desk. I've tried numerous wireless keyboards from ones that are the size of an iPhone to full sized ones and everything in between. As long as your PC is running windows you will need to reach for the kb m from time to time and that will never work in the living room.

For desks PCs are unmatched no contest.

Mouse and Keyboard aside, the convenience factor is debatable


the next gen consoles for example, are actually quite limited as entertainment hubs on their own. They will improve over time sure.... but right now, i don't think setting them up for that task will be all that convenient as you will have to hook them up to quite a few other devices if you actually consume a wide range of media.

 

[Lordwindowlicker]

PC as a platform is based on freedom, if someone wants a HTPC as the hub of whatever they're trying to do, then why stop them?

He has no valid arguments to the contrary.

 

[wizzbang]

1. what does age have to do with anything?
2. I laugh at your second statement considering the most popular and bet selling games on PS3, 360 were multiplayer FPS games. and I hope the irony of branching out to different games on consoles isn't lost on you....

.

I have less time than I used to, I just want to sit back and play games. Steam, Windows XP onwards, standards in general have made PC gaming MUCH easier than when I started 25 years ago but alas,... nope it still ain't as easy as a console.
I just.want.to.play.my.games.

As for your "laughing" at my second statement, lol what?
I couldn't give a fuck if the PS3 was most popular for dancing floormat games, what possible fucking relevance is there that dumb shit like CoD is popular on 360 / PS3?
*I* enjoyed the big variety of good single player games on the PS3, almost my entire library of games (nearly 40?) are SP focused games. I'd say nearly 2/3 of those aren't on PC.

 

[SwiftDeath]

um... PS4 and XBone fans do the same shit in this very forum. PS3 was the most powerful platform and people talked about it non-stop. the same with PS4 and the non-sense with GDDR5 RAM, people were openly masturbating when that got announced. but a PC video card manufacturer starts talking about the vast and obvious power difference and now what? can't handle it? why is it attitude from PC players and manufacturers bit normal for console players?

The problem I think people are finding is in how Nvidia worded it

“The PC platform is far superior to any console when it comes to gaming, plus you get all the extra functionality that a computer brings.”

If we were simply talking power, graphics, ability to mod etc. then yes I could certainly agree PC is objectively better but without adding any qualifiers it still reads as if Nvidia is saying it's objectively better but that's simply not true

There are too many subjective elements that come into play and cannot be quantified

Ease of use, cost/performance across entire game catalogs, exclusive preferences

It simply should've included the proper qualifiers and then it would've been an objectively true statement instead of an opinion of someone that sounds like they are trying to tell you X is better than Y objectively with unmeasurable variables thrown in

 

[Nzyme32]

Yeah, but PS3 is 7 years old. A PC will get obsolete and possibly have difficulty playing the newest games in year, let alone 7 years.

Thats actually completely erroneous. Thats is like saying that the ps3 was running Skyrim at max settings. Whilst the game runs, well looks good and is optimised to a degree on the ps3, it is not at all running at an optimal or "max" level. By comparison to PC it's rendered at 720p Low to mid settings.

Point being I had a gtx260 (£150 at time of purchase, total system cost built in 2007 was £600)from 2008 running skyrim at 1080p all settings on high (a step below max) at approx 40fps without any overclocking. The PS3 doesn't even compare in that regard. And the PC still handles everything pretty well at 1080p as of 2012 at 40-50fps

What I'm trying to say is, stop with the fan boy knee jerk reactions. They are not necessary. Your console serves you well and the PC served me well. Relax

 

[Grief.exe]

pc/ps4...the way to go for me

PC/3DS is the way to go for now.

Pick up PS4 in a year or two when it has some games.

 

[famousmortimer]

The thing is - people aren't lauding PC gaming because of insecurity or a desire for reassurance for their choice. Its just that we kinda want to spread the joy to other people, people that often have a very twisted or incomplete view of what PC gaming is like. Your comment, for example, about how the PC is more powerful and that people don't care. Well, for one, people obviously DO care quite a bit if you've been paying attention to the PS4 vs Xbox news around here the past few months. Two, PC gaming does a lot more than just provide better graphics.

We keep having to say this stuff because people don't listen and we still hear the same tired arguments over and over. There are perfectly valid reasons to decide against PC gaming, but I don't think nearly enough people give it a fair think over and there's quite a few gaming enthusiasts who are likely missing out and don't even realize it.

The idea that PC fanboys are some higher form of fanboy is just not true. There are plenty of elitist PC fanboys. Just as there are Sony/Nintendo/Microsoft.


I'm a PC/PS4 guy myself... I see no difference between the crazies on either platform.

 

[Jtrizzy]

Basically, if you can afford it, and spend lots of time gaming as a hobby, you really should have a pc to go with your console of choice. You are really missing out imo. The ultimate entertainment center=Gaming rig/PS4/WiiU--->HDMI 1.4 reciever w 5.1 setup--->low lag 1080p plasma. You could throw an XB1 if you have to have them all, but a lot of it's exclusives will be on PC.

 

[boredandlazy]

Heh, NVidia could be right or they could be wrong. It's a completely subjective argument. Doesn't change the fact that the driving force behind this sort of statement is obviously sour grapes.

 

[rCIZZLE]

That PS4 you bought was a $430 upgrade.

Trust me, leaving out extra things like sales tax when making comparisons benefits you way more than it benefits the console gamer. Sales tax, shipping, and labor as well as peripherals add a ton of cost.

Also, it's not an upgrade, it's a whole new system.

Don't forget the $50 a year to play online, that factors in too.

Also the more expensive games.

More expensive games that you can lend to friends, sell, or trade in to stores. It's a pretty even tradeoff if you're comparing MSRP.

 

[jim-jam bongs]

The idea that PC fanboys are some higher form of fanboy is just not true. There are plenty of elitist PC fanboys. Just as there are Sony/Nintendo/Microsoft.


I'm a PC/PS4 guy myself... I see no difference between the crazies on either platform.

Not true, our crazies have better image quality.

 

[Nzyme32]

The main problem with PC is not obsolete hardware, you could tune up the setting to keep the pefomance and quality at par or better of a console. The real problem is once you go High or Ultra setting you get spoiled and you can't tolerate degrading the IQ for perfomance and of course this cause you to upgrade your PC every 2 years or less.

Yeah pretty much the nail on the head. When you enjoy that top level, it becomes difficult when technology has moved forward and you are a little behind. The quality remains excellent, but the new tech works but at a slower rate, whilst the consoles never experienced it in the first place so everything feels good.

A good example of this would be my experience with tesselation, and the lack of it on consoles. That switch to next gen consoles feels good because you finally get to see what the PC had 5 years prior