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Massive Gaming YouTube Channels Getting 100s of Flagged Videos Continuously
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Tom Nook Sawyer
Member
That's not true at all. SOME videos are being claimed by irrelevant companies. The vast bulk of what we've seen have been issue by actual game companies, hence all the complains about Nintendo
IdreamofHIME
Member
People no longer making gaming videos on youtube (be it a Let's Play, a review, news etc) unless they are already one of the biggest channels in a network (like Maker, machinima ect) or they only doing it part time (and thus not many videos) due to working an other job (and thus do not have to make a living off youtube).
holland666
Member
Yes, this is a good thing! I hope guys like PewDieShit get destroyed!
Lost Fragment
Obsessed with 4chan
OK, then should publishers go after IGN, Gametrailers, etc next? They do put ads up right next to assets that they post straight as they got it from PR reps.
I mean, they're making money off of someone else's IP. That's pretty much the entire business model of a gaming site. Scummy, right?
PotionBleue
Member
Update on radbrad's tweets:
IDOL manages some audio labels' rights
http://idol.io/
so this person must have included music on his video without authorization to monetize. However it does not block the video and does not penalize his account.
It seems the big YouTubers are now required to provide more proof of authorization to monetize, a thing they were protected from before by being part of a network.
No. Content ID is an automated system and will claim any matched audio visual content, whether or not it's monetized.
I guess this will change how gamers on YouTube make money. It's awesome that many are able to do what they love and make money by doing it, but not having figure out everything beforehand and then complaining rubs me the wrong way.
There are literally only two options here: the way you make money is fine and dandy and you have all the rights to do what you do or you don't and have to live with the consequences. Sorry, but if you're someone making a business with a parter like YouTube who doesn't protect you at all (and flagging vids is nothing new at all) then you have to take your business elsewhere. I don't understand the complaints as the people complaining about it are clearly the ones who made mistakes when figuring out how to monetize their work.
Edit: If people have the rights to use the content and have a contract with YouTube then I don't see how this isn't something that will be resolved quickly.
There are literally only two options here: the way you make money is fine and dandy and you have all the rights to do what you do or you don't and have to live with the consequences. Sorry, but if you're someone making a business with a parter like YouTube who doesn't protect you at all (and flagging vids is nothing new at all) then you have to take your business elsewhere. I don't understand the complaints as the people complaining about it are clearly the ones who made mistakes when figuring out how to monetize their work.
Edit: If people have the rights to use the content and have a contract with YouTube then I don't see how this isn't something that will be resolved quickly.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
Its all over
BurnOutBrighter
Banned
They have licenses for that, just as they have licenses for musicians who want to sell their covers of other people's songs.
It's not necessarily music he added. Remember that a lot of these entities will also pick up tiny little bits of licensed music in-game, sometimes even sound effects.
Lost Fragment
Obsessed with 4chan
I don't think they're required to do so in the most clusterfucky way possible.
You think those sites have actual licenses to do what they do? Hell to the fuck no they don't.
Tom Nook Sawyer
Member
People keep saying this. Do they actually have licenses, or is this just assumed? I've never once seen any of the sites mention it.
Ray Wonder
Founder of the Wounded Tagless Children
Actually, as a matter of fact, royalties are exactly were my livelihood comes from. I've had people use my music in videos, and I've had people steal my music to try and resell it. The latter is when I took action.
I'm not understanding the snarky way you're responding to me, like you're happy that these people may go broke.
jacksepticeye
Member
I got ID matched for audio DICE put into Battlefield 4, it doesn't have to be the uploader adding in music
MrSaturn99
Member
Well, that's kind of shitty.
VE3TRO
Formerly Gizmowned
Companies such as IGN, Gamespot and more will have licenses agreements.
jim-jam bongs
Member
PewDiePew, this generation's Mandela.
They also made the mistake of making youtube their only source of income is seems. The internet is a living thing, it's always changing, you've got to plan to adapt, thats business.
Marauder Shields
Member
And what about the hundreds of other gaming related channels (which are good) that get destroyed in the process? Hardly a good thing, especially if you like the channels and their video content.
I like your stance, on people using your work. That seems quite fair and reasonable.
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
If this kills Two Best Friends Play I'm gonna be pretty damn sad.
jacksepticeye
Member
Is this stuff all happening to coincide with how much easier it is to record,upload and share next gen footage now? and try nip that before it gets out of control later in the gen? or do you think it's just a coincidence?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkbktDbEu7Y
Other people have posted about this, but it's very informative and more people should watch it, if only to see how ridiculous the flagging/copyright system can be.
The part about A Hat In Time, a game that isn't even out yet, is goddamn crazy.
Other people have posted about this, but it's very informative and more people should watch it, if only to see how ridiculous the flagging/copyright system can be.
The part about A Hat In Time, a game that isn't even out yet, is goddamn crazy.
Pretty much.
EDIT: Well, as Jim said, at least this means that smaller developers' games will be more in the limelight now. That's a plus.
The Dutch Slayer
Member
Considering neither console uploads to youtube i find that unlikely.
SolidSnakex
Member
Nah, the writing was on the wall for this the day that you saw someone seriously say "I'll just watch this game on Youtube".
So, by coincident, every gaming channel all receive content ID claims on the exact same day?
Gaming companies all met up and thought "let's content ID match everyone and lose free promotion of our game and put off the channel from uploading future videos further showcasing our games"?
This is clearly YouTube's doing. If companies wanted to mass-claim content, they would have done it before yesterday. It doesn't sound fishy to you that all these content ID claims get implemented on the same day and just a few days after the "affiliate" news was announced?
You really need to separate the story in a game from the actual playing the game part.
What you said is the definition of piracy. I'm sorry but I don't vicariously play the game through whatever esport player I'm watching.
:O
I like unscheduled extra episodes of Jimquisitions
Because when they happen it basically confirms something crazy is happening
jacksepticeye
Member
Here we go!
The Dutch Slayer
Member
hahahahah DAT ending was fantastic ep like always Jim.
Ok time for bed good luck all have to be at work in 8 hours. (real work mind you ^^ J/K)
was fantastic ep like always Jim.Ok time for bed good luck all have to be at work in 8 hours
. (real work mind you ^^ J/K)TheHollowNight
Member
Marvelous!
Tom Nook Sawyer
Member
It's not a coincidence. YouTube rolled out a new ContentID algorithm which is catching far more than the previous one.
They're still part of a network but if you're an "affiliate, looks like you're affected by all these negative changes and content ID claims.
Vigilant Walrus
Member
Right, but this must have something to do with the "affiliate" announcement a few days ago.
PotionBleue
Member
Any reports of problems from people NOT monetizing their content?
I've got hundreds of video game videos and not a single extra claim arrived today with that new system.
Ray Wonder
Founder of the Wounded Tagless Children
I agree, that's like saying if I put a video up of me playing "Bop It", equates to me uploading a new album.
You're not playing the game. You are, however, listening to the music. You buy games to play, you buy music to listen.
I H8 Memes
Member
So is this some mistake where copyright claims have caught up lets plays or is it really publishers going after these channels?
This wont stop that at all.
VE3TRO
Formerly Gizmowned
Zak it's Reece here. Not seen you in ages dude. Yea all this stuff going on is regards to the affiliate stuff which happened last week.
It seems to more Youtube automation acting up rather than the publishers alone.
But there most likely is a double standard at play. DSP mentions he is not getting flagged for Injustice and Super Mario 3D World. I visited those pages and there are still ads playing right now. That means Google should still be being paid by advertisers. They simply aren't distributed DSP's cut for his content.
Publishers would rather tackle the smaller fish than Google. If I'm correct about Google still getting paid then they should be hit with a class action lawsuit.