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[Interceptor]

Agreed. Now these are new ips.



This is like saying Titanfall is a Microsoft game. Ok, ok, fine. I'll let you guys have the enormously well-received and high selling gangbuster 101. /clap

It would be a first party Microsoft game if Microsoft would pay the bill and oversees the development. It´s not that hard to understand.

But thanks for your generous offer to accept this game. /clapclap

 

[I'm an expert]

Hey, at this point, you guys need everything you can get.

 

[Ithil]

steven mawhirt3 hours ago

halo

Got a chuckle out of me.

 

[Interceptor]

Hey, at this point, you guys need everything you can get.

Why so angry? And who are "we guys"? People who can play the GOTY of this thread or people who know how to define a first party title? Enlighten me. ^^

 

[Sacrimoni]

Let's not kid ourselves.

It's a fine game, but it isn't an AAA game. Which is kinda to be expected by handheld titles, as they simply cannot achieve the same greatness as the bigger-budget home console games can. A small handheld game from a small company taking home the GOTY award is like a Finnish melancholic movie taking home the best movie Oscar.

But it's not some obscure experimental foreign game. It's a direct sequel to one of the finest games of all time

Are you seriously not able to comprehend why some outlets would collectively vote it the best if the year? Is your brain honestly unable to process that?

 

[I'm an expert]

Why so angry? And who are "we guys"? People who can play the GOTY of this thread or people who know how to define a first party title? Enlighten me. ^^

Lol, how do you perceive anger from anything here. We're throwing some light gaming jabs, about all that's allowed on gaf. Don't be so overly sensitive.

 

[Dion Blaster]

Hey, at this point, you guys need everything you can get.

Jeez man, no need to get defensive. Just understand what first party means.

 

[Moff]

Let's not kid ourselves.

It's a fine game, but it isn't an AAA game. Which is kinda to be expected by handheld titles, as they simply cannot achieve the same greatness as the bigger-budget home console games can. A small handheld game from a small company taking home the GOTY award is like a Finnish melancholic movie taking home the best movie Oscar.

thats a very weird analogy.
its not the big blockbuster movies that are popular with the general public, that usually get the best movie oscar

but since you called nintendo a small company comparable to a finnish movie studio, I guess you were kidding anyway.

 

[I'm an expert]

Jeez man, no need to get defensive. Just understand what first party means.

Er, what? I'm on offense, you guys defense. 101 is not 1st party lol.

 

[big_erk]

How do you leave out The Last of Us? That probably has the most GOTYs and is a new IP.

I was just showing how few new IPs dominate the gaming landscape. TLOU was awesome, definitely one of the best of the year.

 

[ViewtifulJC]

101 is not 1st party lol.

You don't actually know the definition of first-party do you

 

[Omegasquash]

Well, they chose...wisely. Matter of opinion of course, but speaking personally it absorbed me for a short while and gave me a good run. The gameplay was fun, they took liberty with the normal design, and the soundtrack is phenomenal.

Most fun I've had in a game in a good long while, I must admit.

 

[SpecialAgentZ]

Let's not kid ourselves.

It's a fine game, but it isn't an AAA game. Which is kinda to be expected by handheld titles, as they simply cannot achieve the same greatness as the bigger-budget home console games can. A small handheld game from a small company taking home the GOTY award is like a Finnish melancholic movie taking home the best movie Oscar.

What?
You are kidding, right?

 

[Interceptor]

Er, what? I'm on offense, you guys defense. 101 is not 1st party lol.

We are just trying to educate you. Which is harder than getting a Goty award for TLOU from gamespot.

 

[Ravensmash]

Let's not kid ourselves.

It's a fine game, but it isn't an AAA game. Which is kinda to be expected by handheld titles, as they simply cannot achieve the same greatness as the bigger-budget home console games can. A small handheld game from a small company taking home the GOTY award is like a Finnish melancholic movie taking home the best movie Oscar.

By that logic, stuff like Transformers would be sweeping the board.

 

[big_erk]

A small handheld game from a small company

"I'm so confused!"

 

[I'm an expert]

You don't actually know the definition of first-party do you

My gamer card has many more years on it than you, worry not. You guys can convince yourselves it's first party because Nintendo threw a handshake and some cash at Kamiya. It's not. If you're gonna tell me Bayo2 is 1st party, I'll just leave yo cause it's lunacy.

 

[Interfectum]

Holy hell this thread. Why so much rage? They had a respectable list of nominees and a respectable winner. Can't believe we are at 26 pages here.

 

[Ithil]

last of us is the real GOTY

whatever gamestop, go review Kane and lynch again

So you tell Gamespot what they should have picked, then you dismiss Gamespot as not mattering in the next sentence? Do you care or don't you? Would you have brought up Kane and Lynch if TLOU had won?

 

[Captain Tuttle]

Let's not kid ourselves.

It's a fine game, but it isn't an AAA game. Which is kinda to be expected by handheld titles, as they simply cannot achieve the same greatness as the bigger-budget home console games can. A small handheld game from a small company taking home the GOTY award is like a Finnish melancholic movie taking home the best movie Oscar.

My sarcasm meter is just completely burnt out, fuses blown, wires fried. I can't tell anymore and this is just the beginning of the console wars.

In WWI they called it "shellshock"

 

[ViewtifulJC]

My gamer card has many more years on it than you, worry not. You guys can convince yourselves it's first party because Nintendo threw a handshake and some cash at Kamiya. It's not. If you're gonna tell me Bayo2 is 1st party, I'll just leave yo cause it's lunacy.

lol, so you really don't know the definition of first-party

here's a hint: Gears of War is a first-party Microsoft game, and Ratchet and Clank in a first-party Sony game.

Just a little something you can add to that ol' gamer cred of yours. Who says you can't teach an old dog new tricks, huh?

 

[jackissocool]

Are we really going to engage in New IP wars guys? Just about the only new Ip being bandied about this GOTY season is The Last of Us.

Tearaway, bro. Won't be winning many but it will get lots of nominations.

 

[Ithil]

Hey, at this point, you guys need everything you can get.

That probably sounded like an amazing one liner in your head. Shame.

 

[big_erk]

Er, what? I'm on offense, you guys defense. 101 is not 1st party lol.

© 2013 Nintendo/PlatinumGames Inc. The Wonderful 101 and Wii U are trademarks of Nintendo. © 2013 Nintendo.

The IP is owned by Nintendo.

My gamer card has many more years on it than you, worry not. You guys can convince yourselves it's first party because Nintendo threw a handshake and some cash at Kamiya. It's not. If you're gonna tell me Bayo2 is 1st party, I'll just leave yo cause it's lunacy.

Bayo 2 is not first party, but it is wholly funded by Nintendo IIRC. So while they don't own the franchise, they pretty much own this particular entry in said franchise.

 

[Nostremitus]

Man, I've been holding off on this game... guess I have no excuse now...

 

[I'm an expert]

lol, so you really don't know the definition of first-party

here's a hint: Gears of War is a first-party Microsoft game, and Ratchet and Clank in a first-party Sony game.

Just a little something you can add to that ol' gamer cred of yours. Who says you can't teach an old dog new tricks, huh?

Typical youngin usin wiki as a source. You'll learn one day.

That probably sounded like an amazing one liner in your head. Shame.

You have no idea lol. =P

 

[H2intensity]

Er, what? I'm on offense, you guys defense. 101 is not 1st party lol.

what?....

 

[Majestad]

Holy hell this thread. Why so much rage? They had a respectable list of nominees and a respectable winner. Can't believe we are at 26 pages here.

The great majority of people agree that Zelda was a fantastic choice. The salt seems to come from a specific group. You know who.

 

[JDSN]

All attempts of parody in this thread are a failure because the real posts are actually worse than something a mind for comedy could ever hope to conceive.

 

[Interceptor]

My gamer card has many more years on it than you, worry not. You guys can convince yourselves it's first party because Nintendo threw a handshake and some cash at Kamiya. It's not. If you're gonna tell me Bayo2 is 1st party, I'll just leave yo cause it's lunacy.

Such credibility! ^^ We don´t need convincing, it´s not like the definition changes every day. Why is it so important to you to proof it´s not first party? Why the denial.

 

[Zen_Arcade]

Er, what? I'm on offense, you guys defense. 101 is not 1st party lol.

Yes it is. Anything published by Nintendo is a first party Nintendo game. The same is true for Sony and Microsoft.

 

[Interfectum]

All attempts of parody in this thread are a failure because the real posts are actually worse than something a mind for comedy could ever hope to conceive.

I can't tell what is real and what isn't. I just casually clicked on this thread seeing how it's still on the front page and omgwtfbbq is going on.

 

[SolVanderlyn]

Great choice. What a pleasant surprise.

 

[Ansatz]

My gamer card has many more years on it than you, worry not. You guys can convince yourselves it's first party because Nintendo threw a handshake and some cash at Kamiya. It's not. If you're gonna tell me Bayo2 is 1st party, I'll just leave yo cause it's lunacy.

I don't think you're aware of what the term definition means.

What you're really trying to say is you want an in-house Nintendo new IP. More specifically EAD Kyoto. Just say that instead of saying 1st party to get across what you mean, because it's an incorrect use of the term.

My response to that is sure I want to see some too. Last gen we got touch generations and the Wii line of games. I like those kinds of games too, but seeing how the market for those have collapsed, there will probably be room for new/dormant IPs in the future.

 

[big_erk]

The great majority of people agree that Zelda was a fantastic choice. The salt seems to come from a specific group. You know who.

This guy?

 

[The Boat]

i am strengthened and invigorated

Whenever I feel stupid, I just need to remember that there are loads of people that are really fucking stupid out there and I feel much better. Thanks for the reminder.

 

[Tripon]

Agreed. Now these are new ips.



This is like saying Titanfall is a Microsoft game. Ok, ok, fine. I'll let you guys have the enormously well-received and high selling gangbuster 101. /clap

Huh? Titanfall's IP still belongs to Respawn, and the publishing rights still belong to EA. W101's situation is similar to how Sony owns Demon Souls, and we all consider Demon Souls to be a Sony IP despite the work and concept being totally done by From Software.

 

[Malvingt2]

http://www.p4rgaming.com/gamespot-r...re-office-after-naming-zelda-game-of-the-year

New thread?

Edit: Fake?

 

[SpecialAgentZ]

This guy?

Mostly drones

 

[Interceptor]

This guy?

I bet he has a really high gamerscore made in mature videogames, yo. ^^ No way he would play this kiddygame by kidtendo bra.

 

[Nostremitus]

Yes it is. Anything published by Nintendo is a first party Nintendo game. The same is true for Sony and Microsoft.

Anything developed by Nintendo is a first party game...

The publisher doesn't matter... That's like saying Mass Effect was a Microsoft first party title because they published the first one... (Hint: it isn't)

There's a diffrerence between publishing and developing. Some titles have different publishers based on region, the developer is who actually makes the game.

If a game is made by a third-party developer, it's made by a third party developer. Now, whether or not nintendo own's the IP is another matter entirely.

I'd consider some of these to sit firmly in the "2nd party" territory, lol.

All in all, though... It's kind of a moot point.

 

[ScreenSplitter]

Let's not kid ourselves.

It's a fine game, but it isn't an AAA game. Which is kinda to be expected by handheld titles, as they simply cannot achieve the same greatness as the bigger-budget home console games can. A small handheld game from a small company taking home the GOTY award is like a Finnish melancholic movie taking home the best movie Oscar.

I've lost the ability to tell what are joke posts in this thread...

 

[SquiddyCracker]

By that logic, stuff like Transformers would be sweeping the board.

Bad comparison, as Transformers is bombastic but has been shitpanned by reviewers.

The Last of Us on the otherhand, is not only a triple-A game that ticks the checkboxes of visceralism, epicness, and cinematicism, but it's also an excellent game that has (rightly so) been regarded as the best PS3 game.

 

[Interceptor]

Bad comparison, as Transformers is bombastic but has been shitpanned by reviewers.

The Last of Us on the otherhand, is not only a triple-A game that ticks the checkboxes of visceralism, epicness, and cinematicism, but it's also an excellent game that has (rightly so) been regarded as the best PS3 game.

I feel dizzy.

Spoiler

Still a great game though. But i am fan of Ellen Page so what do i know..

 

[H2intensity]

Bad comparison, as Transformers is bombastic but has been shitpanned by reviewers.

The Last of Us on the otherhand, is not only a triple-A game that ticks the checkboxes of visceralism, epicness, and cinematicism, but it's also an excellent game that has (rightly so) been regarded as the best PS3 game.

Last time I check hurt locker beat avatar on Oscar

 

[Trey]

Anything developed by Nintendo is a first party game...

The publisher doesn't matter... That's like saying Mass Effect was a Microsoft first party title because they published the first one... (Hint: it isn't)

There's a diffrerence between publishing and developing. Some titles have different publishers based on region, the developer is who actually makes the game.

If a game is made by a third-party developer, it's made by a third party developer. Now, whether or not nintendo own's the IP is another matter entirely.

I'd consider some of these to sit firmly in the "2nd party" territory, lol.

All in all, though... It's kind of a moot point.

It was a first party title. Until MS sold their rights to it back to EA/Bioware.

Is the Halo franchise up to Reach "2nd party lol" because Bungie is now a third party developer to MS?

 

[Tripon]

Anything developed by Nintendo is a first party game...

The publisher doesn't matter... That's like saying Mass Effect was a Microsoft first party title because they published the first one... (Hint: it isn't)

There's a diffrerence between publishing and developing. Some titles have different publishers based on region, the developer is who actually makes the game.

If a game is made by a third-party developer, it's made by a third party developer. Now, whether or not nintendo own's the IP is another matter entirely.

I'd consider some of these to sit firmly in the "2nd party" territory, lol.

All in all, though... It's kind of a moot point.

By your logic, Nintendo doesn't own and make Hyrule Warriors because its being developed by Temco Koei, or Nintendo didn't own and make Luigi Mansion 2 because it was developed by Next Level Games.

 

[Holy Order Sol]

Sure. Now how many new IPs do you see there (101 don't count). Who wouldn't be good at making the same thing repeatedly?

Ok, ok, fine. I'll let you guys have the enormously well-received and high selling gangbuster 101. /clap

Not that people should even try to respond since what you're arguing is irrelevant to GotY status in the first place.

 

[Majestad]

Bad comparison, as Transformers is bombastic but has been shitpanned by reviewers.

The Last of Us on the otherhand, is not only a triple-A game that ticks the checkboxes of visceralism, epicness, and cinematicism, but it's also an excellent game that has (rightly so) been regarded as the best PS3 game.

Took a while to realize this post was a parody. Damn. The lines are getting blurrier on this thread lol.

 

[Nipo]

lol, so you really don't know the definition of first-party

here's a hint: Gears of War is a first-party Microsoft game, and Ratchet and Clank in a first-party Sony game.

Just a little something you can add to that ol' gamer cred of yours. Who says you can't teach an old dog new tricks, huh?

I'm new to this whole first party debate. If you're going to call Insomniac Games Ratchet titles "First party" games and development what definition are you going to use for second party? Which is normally defined as an independent developer putting a game exclusively on one platform.

The inclusion of GOW as a first party MS title is even more confusing considering MS doesn't even own the GOW IP.

Overall, using a line from Wikipedia, especially one that says citation needed, is a terrible way to make an argument and a sure fire way to fail a paper if try to use it in school.