Valve should pre install TF2, Dota2, L4D3 andon every Steam Box. That would help alot to sell them, even if they are all F2P. "Buy the box and get instant access to games, which over 20million Uniques Players play each Month!"Half Life 3
I guess?
They lack virtually any single feature vaguely in common.
Was not expecting $500. That's awesome.
Was not expecting $500. That's awesome. How does a R9 270 graphics card stack up against a Radeon HD5870? That's what I have in my laptop and I don't think it's going to be able to run stuff well starting very soon.
I'd like to see other Steam Machines, but $500 seems reasonable. You can upgrade the graphics cards right? I'd think about dropping $500 on one and then maybe upgrading to a better graphics card a couple of months later or a year later.
My only gripe is that it's only going to play Linux-based games right? Can I install Windows on it and play my non-Linux Steam games on it?
Because neither the FreeBSD nor the Windows NT kernel are hard real-time capable. Unless you mean to imply that they were changed to such a significant extent, at which point I would put the burden of proof on the one making the claim.
Honestly, I really do wonder why it's even relevant whether or not they are. The purported "OS overhead" advantages you want to argue for are completely orthogonal to whether or not the OS and its scheduler are real-time capable. In fact, if anything the constraints imposed by being required to fulfill hard real-time constraints probably induce additional overhead in general day-to-day performance. Since these consoles aren't running the brakes on a car or navigating a space shuttle, I don't see why you would use a real-time OS.
My assumption for why you brought it up is because you probably think "RTOS" sounds good.
I call bullshit. That thing will not run ARMA III all settings maxed 1080P/60FPS. If we are talking low settings, fuck that....
Downloading and installing is already pretty much hassle-free with Steam. I don't know if they'll have automatic settings to target a certain resolution or framerate, but that would probably be a good idea.This is pretty cool. I would like:
- 100% hassle-free downloading and installing of games.
- No necessary tinkering with settings to play games in 1080p60.
- Good 3rd party support. Not just Valve and indie games, but also 3rd party AAA games.
- If I don't like the controller I want to be able to use a traditional one (DS4 via USB?).
If those points are covered, I'm in. $500 is fine.
I don't think there is an object on earth that can do that with Arma III, certainly not playing the most popular open-world multiplayer modes.
these things either need to be amazing or horrible. No one benefits from an average prebuilt pc.
Considering Metro: Last Light is one of those titles, it's at least worth asking the question.
Did people forget you'll be able to just install Windows on all Steam Machines if you want to?
Am I the only one getting a 3DO vibe from the Steambox?
Did people forget you'll be able to just install Windows on all Steam Machines if you want to? So yes, theoretically you could play Titanfall on this thing, and probably get really good performance out of it too. Having to pay for Windows depends on whether or not you already own a Windows installation.
And no matter what you think or what they say about being able to run games at 1080p/60fps, for a $500 pre-built PC those specs look really damn good.
That Nvidia Geforce Experience. Click a button for optimal settings. Oh, but this is an AMD GPU.
...Ehr? Why?With all the comparing between PC and console going on, has there yet been a proper thread comparing console performance in multi-plat games vs PCs with similar (or worse) GPUs?
...Ehr?
Why?
I don't think a 270 can reach 60 fps in Metro, unless SteamOS really is much more efficient than Windows. Maybe if you drop detail settings a couple of notches.
That Nvidia Geforce Experience. Click a button for optimal settings. Oh, but this is an AMD GPU.
All steam boxs will have the same 16 gigs of ram and you can upgrade CPU and gpu
I heard Last Light Linux version doesn't even have proper settings only one slider :lol
AMD will have their own solution for that.
That Nvidia Geforce Experience. Click a button for optimal settings. Oh, but this is an AMD GPU.
All steam boxs will have the same 16 gigs of ram and you can upgrade CPU and gpu
Err, no.
PC's are a rapidly shrinking market, and Steam machines won't help the overall contraction caused by tablets.
Everyone knows what an Xbox and Playstation is, try and sell a "Steam machine" to 90% of the public and they'd go "Whats that? Oh, a PC? Yeah, no thanks, i barely use my laptop now".
I don't think a 270 can reach 60 fps in Metro, unless SteamOS really is much more efficient than Windows. Maybe if you drop detail settings a couple of notches.
Yea, but the 270 probably hardly works on Linux anyway... As of right now, anyway.I don't think a 270 can reach 60 fps in Metro, unless SteamOS really is much more efficient than Windows. Maybe if you drop detail settings a couple of notches.
The R270 is a HD7850 correct? Or is it 7870?
WOW, I wonder how good of a computer you would need to have to play that. My computer skips the video even when I pre-load it for about 30 seconds or so. My computer can handle Dead Island: Riptide on mid-low settings with no lag, so WTF?! lol
If you buy this, would you be free to install Windows on it?
If you buy this, would you be free to install Windows on it? Or is it a closed environment like on consoles?
Steam Machines with Intel's Iris integrated graphics should be even cheaper, right? I'd love to see a range of $249-299 Steam Machines targeted at the more casual market, as well as some $99 streaming Steam Machines that can still play indie games natively.
Steam Machines with Intel's Iris integrated graphics should be even cheaper, right? I'd love to see a range of $249-299 Steam Machines targeted at the more casual market, as well as some $99 streaming Steam Machines that can still play indie games natively.
Amd's kaveri apu is launching in January, right? It'd be perfect for a low cost stream machine.
From what I remember, iris pro is rather expensive, so it won't be going into any low cost boxes any time soon.
The lowest chip with Iris Pro sells for $450 alone, so probably not.
The R270 is a HD7850 correct? Or is it 7870?
It is it's own card, and it is on par with the HD7870 for the most part http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-r9-270-review-benchmarks,3669-5.html
Edit to Clarify - The R9 270 performs better than the HD7870 in some games and is beaten in others by similar margins. A small overclock of the card has been shown to quite easily rectify this
No, just no.Well- FreeBSD is very easy to make real time OS- there are POSIX ext available,but most likely, Sony will modify kernel, like they did on ps3, to the point it does not look like BSD kernel but is preemptible.You can also use multi-core real-time scheduler to get real time os in something like BSD.
The prototype we saw packs a quad-core Athlon X4 740 CPU ("with some voltage and speed tweaks"), 4GB RAM, a 500GB HDD, and a Radeon R7 250 GPU (1GB GDDR5) power SteamOS -- no dual-booting here! iBuyPower's hoping for a Radeon R7 260X ("or equivalent") GPU when the SBX ships later this year, but we're told most of the other specs won't change.