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Spencer: Black Tusk E3 '13 teaser was "a concept piece", not a in-dev game
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Wait, but it is deceitful.
- if the game existed, but was cancelled, Phil is being deceitful.
- if the game did not exist, the e3 presentation was deceitful.
Can't be any clearer than that.
Vinterbird
Member
Because it looks really bad in the public eye to say "Yeah we assembled this super team to make our new Halo-like tentpole franchise but they ran late on production and things really weren't coming together. So instead we decided to force them into making a new Gears game".
It's total normal damage control. The problem is just that it was widely communicated that Black Tusk was working on a new IP since 2012, so it flies against fact by Black Tusk employees, Microsoft employees and job postings.
No matter if you care about the games or not, doesn't make them any less real which was your original question/point.
It's called damage control. It's a better story to say it was a concept instead of "Black Tusk wasn't making it happen fast enough, so we gave them this instead".
They have to expand. But I hope it expands enough so that when teams slowly finish their duty on Gears they can move over to another project. I would have no issue with 4 years dev time between each Gears game.
They could be screwed.
Next Gears a success, factory they are. Failure, not looking good for studio.
I guess some might leave and try making it elsewhere. Having Gears lumped on you and your IP being pushed to the side must be disappointing.
Microsoft "Right everyone, I know you've worked hard and are excited about your game but stop what your doing. Be excited and enthusiastic for Gears of War!"
/tumbleweed.....
Next Gears a success, factory they are. Failure, not looking good for studio.
I guess some might leave and try making it elsewhere. Having Gears lumped on you and your IP being pushed to the side must be disappointing.
Microsoft "Right everyone, I know you've worked hard and are excited about your game but stop what your doing. Be excited and enthusiastic for Gears of War!"
/tumbleweed.....
Vinterbird
Member
You're going to get Gears every year where there is not an Halo game coming out.
Yeah, that is as close to a confirmation as we gonna get. The game is scrapped.
badcrumble
Member
Bummer, that game looked fucking cool.
Liamario
Banned
I don't see how anyone could possibly be disappointed by the black tusk teaser not being a real thing. It showed absolutely nothing original and there certainly wasn't enough to the footage that you possibly have been getting hyped about. Sure, the curiosity surrounding the footage may have enticed you somewhat, but the footage in of itself showed next to nothing.
yeah, its funny people are working so at managing Spencer's reputation. Guy lied, #dealwithit.
Doug Heffernan
Member
I present to you, Microsoft's first party team:
Forza factory.
Halo factory.
Gears factory.
Fable factory.
Kinect Sports factory.
Forza factory.
Halo factory.
Gears factory.
Fable factory.
Kinect Sports factory.
Steverulez
Member
It is worth pointing out that when Microsoft closed MS Victoria they said nothing was cancelled, just moved to Black Tusk to centralise development...
I wonder if Victoria was planned to make the Gears game but they decided it would be better to move it to Black Tusk?
I wonder if Victoria was planned to make the Gears game but they decided it would be better to move it to Black Tusk?
New original IP is way more interesting than old shooter ip, hence disappointed. Not that complex really.
Demoncarnotaur
Member
Bullshit.
I like gears, but I wanted a new fucking IP. This is not good news at all IMO.
I like gears, but I wanted a new fucking IP. This is not good news at all IMO.
Vinterbird
Member
I present to you, Microsoft's first part team:
Forza factory.
Halo factory.
Gears factory.
Fable factory.
Kinect Sports factory.
Lionhead is working on a new IP, there that's something. But yeah, established IP's that sell well are going to continue be a thing.
Bluekaveli
Member
I'm still waiting for that Ass storm that was supposed to happen Nov 22.
Yes, deceitful damage control.
I'm not saying it's a huge deal, but I won't refrain from calling a spade a spade.
Liamario
Banned
It wasn't original though. What the hell was original about that footage?
Triggerhappytel
Member
Yeah, poor old Phil has had to clean up a lot of shit following Mattrick's departure. He seems like a good guy and much more genuine and trustworthy than Mattrick ever was.
Triggerhappytel
Member
Original as in a new brand and not the fifth instalment in a series which some have started to grow tired of.
the handling of x1 has been a total clusterfuck from the reveal until the announcement of 8% gpu reserve being given to games. It's been pretty much a constant ass-storm.
I'm betting that when we look back, that 8% move was the start of x1 being treated as a game console and not a OMG IT'S GONNA PRINT MONEY box by microsoft. The ass-storm is over.
KoopaTheCasual
Junior Member
They're trying to be Nintendo.I present to you, Microsoft's first party team:
Forza factory.
Halo factory.
Gears factory.
Fable factory.
Kinect Sports factory.
but without the depth of IPs
Fried Food
Banned
That sucks. Give us something truly new MS!
eso76
Member
yeah, tbf that teaser looked pretty bad (while still looking like obvious CG and not realtime) but i was somehow hoping the game would basically be some kind of old style Splinter Cell and the curiosity surrounding a new AAA IP was huge.
"You'll be working on a new AAA IP exclusive ! Actually no, scrap that, you'll be working on a new Gears of War".
Another chance Microsoft missed to broaden its audience. Its most important exclusive IP's are both space shooters, and have both been losing popularity for the last 2 iterations (Reach, 4, Gow3, Judgement).
BigTnaples
Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
New is not always better.
They have the opportunity to take Gears in an awesome direction.
Maybe the IP they were working on was a bland futuristic Splinter Cell knock off. In which case, a new Gears game would be infinitely more interesting.
Liamario
Banned
Don't get me wrong, I'd rather they were working on something akin to the teaser trailer than another Gears of fucking War, but I just think the hype surrounding the teaser has been totally overblown.
Pinko Marx
Banned
Here's what i don't get. Even if it was just a concept piece, Black Tusk is a game development studio. So why even show this off, why even come to E3 if you're not sporting a game? What's the point?
Syphon Filter
Member
quantum break is a new ip from MS,you guys act like there isnt any.more to come at e3 i bet.
And now we'll never know! Or at least not for an extremely long time. Maybe the new IP was going to be the new pillar of which Xbox got multiple installments of. Maybe it was going to to dominate and be a game of the generation.
But now we know what we're going to get. Gears of War. Blood, gore, guns. Yay. Maybe they'll take out the big hulking dudes. But there's only so much you can do with an old IP. I don't like Gears down to its core. I very highly doubt I'll like this.
Because he is lying! It's not hard to understand. If it was always a concept, then he lied at E3. If it was a game, he's lying now.
There are words people are using. Deceit, misleading, disingenuous, ect. Lets just use the real word. Lying.
Finally making the decision to let go of the Xbox series for my gaming needs is one of the better decisions I have made in gaming. The more I read about how they have handled this new generation the more happy I am that I don't feel like I am part of some evil misdirection plot to screw over gamers. With all the blatant lies, misinformation and back tracking.....
A lot of gamers don't really care about this, but I am not one of them.
A lot of gamers don't really care about this, but I am not one of them.
Syphon Filter
Member
where did you hear on lionhead new ip?arent they making fable legends?how big is lionhead?
You're pretty limited in the direction you can take a 3rd person shooter that uses hulk sized men and women as their protagonists , unless they just pretend 4 games didn't happen and start again.
Syphon Filter
Member
And now we'll never know! Or at least not for an extremely long time. Maybe the new IP was going to be the new pillar of which Xbox got multiple installments of. Maybe it was going to to dominate and be a game of the generation.
But now we know what we're going to get. Gears of War. Blood, gore, guns. Yay. Maybe they'll take out the big hulking dudes. But there's only so much you can do with an old IP. I don't like Gears down to its core. I very highly doubt I'll like this.
hulk dude is part of the gears charm, they arent taking that out.
Vinterbird
Member
They said last week that other then Fable Legends they are working on a new IP.
The point was, that it was a game in development but sometime after E3 it wasn't anymore and now that project is dead.
Not excited by this news at all. I thought Gears Of War had run its course, it's just not a very interesting series to me anymore. Didn't like 3 much and never played Judgement.
I hope their new IP is just on the blackburner. Be very interesting to see if anyone leaves the studio because of being put on Gears development.
I hope their new IP is just on the blackburner. Be very interesting to see if anyone leaves the studio because of being put on Gears development.
Never said better. Both were going to be AAA MS shooter garbage designed to appeal to the male gun fetish 12-20 age bracket.
That doesn't change the fact that 'black tusk working on Gears of War' is less interesting than 'black tusk working on original unannounced IP'.
It would be the same if Kojima said "I'm working on a new AAA unannounced AAA IP." vs "I'm working on Metal Gear Solid 12"; or ND saying "New unannounced original IP in 2014!" vs "Uncharted 2014: Retread".
Syphon Filter
Member
how can it run its course in only 3 games and a spinoff?
SwiftDeath
Member
Wait so the original Black tusk IP is dead in the water at this point?
Man I hope it gets revived. Cboat sounded hopeful
Man I hope it gets revived. Cboat sounded hopeful
I agree- but sometimes you want some AAA shootshootbangbang. I can get down with silly dumb AAA fun sometimes.
For example, Sucker Punch hasn't done anything but make Infamous since 2009- and I'm super hyped for SS.
For a second there I though there was going to be a game based on this movie: Suckerpunch (2010). That would have been nice.
It's just every AAA seems to target the exact same audience with very similar gameplay. Personally, I really look for anything that is different because I'm tired of gunplay.
SS doesn't have multiplayer and the hero doesn't use guns, right? So I do have that game on my radar.
Well obviously I only speak for myself but I felt the series had run out of steam by 3 and had become completely uninteresting. The gameplay isn't exciting, the universe itself isn't that interesting and the storylines and characters in Gears aren't very interesting either.
I'm also not a multiplayer guy for Gears so I'm not talking in that regard either.
I'm sure a new Gears will sell well but for me it's a series past its prime. The best game in the series was 1, the others have been downhill ever since. I'd rather get a new IP from Black Tusk but I guess that's just business for you.
Dragonborn
Member
A new IP or just a new concept video? Black Tusk was doing a "new IP" too
Triggerhappytel
Member
It doesn't have multiplayer, but the main character, like the previous protagonist, might as well have guns. It looks like he shoots smoke bullets, but they're basically just bullets.
Doug Heffernan
Member
How is ruthlessly killing hundreds of people with lightning attacks any different than guns from a violence/gameplay standpoint?
lol You're really reaching here...
Wait a sec, I remember that too. There was at least one CBOAT post giving specific claims about the development process of that game; how they had hit hitches early on, then got their stride and he was impressed with what he was seeing.
What's going on here?
Eh, fable is dying a bit. I can definitely see lionhead trying to maake their next big thing after legends is released.