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Its a shame that Sony gets free passes for all these practices 😪
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1 year exclusivity deals - Your take on that?
- Thread starter Chairmanchuck
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Its a shame that Sony gets free passes for all these practices 😪
don't mind them, as long as they're upfront about it.
i don't like it when something is announced to be on all platforms, or is expected to be due to being a sequel, and then suddenly has a year exclusivity while pretending like it's a full exclusive (looking at you rise of the tomb raider)
if i know it will eventually arrive on my platform of choice though i have no issues waiting though. i'll be doing it with PUBG.
i don't like it when something is announced to be on all platforms, or is expected to be due to being a sequel, and then suddenly has a year exclusivity while pretending like it's a full exclusive (looking at you rise of the tomb raider)
if i know it will eventually arrive on my platform of choice though i have no issues waiting though. i'll be doing it with PUBG.
I dislike them and this practice needs to die. Why do you think there was a deal for FFX-X2? I don't think Sony gives a crap about a cheap port of a PS3 remaster of an ancient 15 years old game. It's totally on SE just like it was totally on them for releasing FF9 on Steam first.
DalikSkywing
Member
No surprise when Sony has defenders for limiting cross play too.
DoomGyver
Member
I don't want a person who can only afford one platform to have to miss out on a great game or DLC simply because they can't afford a second platform. Sure they can wait a year and buy it cheaper, but most games these days have communities come and go within a few months of release. It's anti-gamer, I want everyone to be able to play great games regardless of the platform.
DalikSkywing
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FFX was uploaded to steam a few weeks after PS4 release and it also didn't get any updates because it was already all done, it's fact that sony payed for the delay.
Aztechnology
Member
It's Shit, and can even kill potential releases later on or at the very least cause tepid sales. Resident Evil 7 PSVR exclusivity deal not only hurt VR adoption, but it's kind of up in the air if it will even come to PCVR at this point.
Source? Did they also pay to delay FF XV? lol
EDIT: These deals don't benefit gamers so of course they are bad. All companies are doing this and the debate which company is the worst seems pretty pointless to me.
Abilidebob
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The FFX case is pretty cut and dry, just stop. Just take a look at Steamdb.
A fact you say? Where did you get that from? I'd love to read up on why Sony thinks a PS3 remaster of a PS2 remaster is worth pumping money into.
Toadthemushroom
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More transparency would be nice. I get the need to secure exclusives for a platform when there's only so much first party games you can produce within a single year, but it would also be helpful, as someone who owns all the "current" systems, to know details. For instance, I'd much rather play the FFXII remaster on Switch, but there's no indication that it's actually a PS4 exclusive or not. If I knew that were the case I'd have already bought it...
DalikSkywing
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Exactly one year on the same day release.
Game was uploaded to steam already before the PS4 release and wasn't updated meaning it was was the final version.
Can't you read other than one sentence in people post? FFXV doesn't fulfill even one of these points.
Mr Moose
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Sony also paid to keep GTA V off PC for years. They are assholes.
Source: My ass.
texhnolyze
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Nah, it's a different case because the PC version of XV is not just a simple port. The added and modified lots of things for PC.
Your hostility is not helping either. There's actually a source for that claim, which is Steamdb.
DalikSkywing
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They did it with FFX, zodiac age makes all the more sense.
The finished port of X/2 was uploaded to Steam a year before it released. So not a good comparison at all.
GeordieMark
Member
Not impressed by them, and certainly not impressed by people who defend them when they come with zero benefit to the consumer.
DalikSkywing
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Another one who can't read? All of you sony defenders seems to have the same problem. 🤔
Nightengale
Member
Its shit.
Mr Moose
Member
And is there proof of Sony making deals to keep it off there? Why would they? Seems odd to me.
Chairmanchuck
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Not SAO, but it is pretty clear FFX-X2 was a timed exclusive. The whole game was finished and uploaded exactly at the PS4 Release date, nothing was changed. It was finished on PC. You can check out the SteamDB app updates to see that.
Leyasu
Banned
No, they just bought the studio. Lol
Holygriever
Banned
W Dippo.
I never commented on Sony deals, I have no way of knowing that. I commented on your comparison that made no sense.
"Why would they" ? Not that there's proof, but it's very easy to imagine why they would.
Same reason why they paid to have exclusivity on RE7 and AC7's VR modes.
PC is a competitor.
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Anyway, they're shit, always, and consumers bending over backwards to justify them are sort of embarrassing.
Chairmanchuck
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There is proof for RE7 VR exclusivity, because Capcom said Sony paid for it. 1 year exclusivity.
The Chinese Game room said Sony helped marketing their title and gets half a year exclusivity.
I think it is not a big stretch to think that, if a finished game was uploaded on Steam at the PS4 release, then released EXACTLY 1 year after it, even though it was finished, it might be a 1 year exclusivity clause in place.
Abilidebob
Member
Jesus Christ.
Timeline:
Game is uploaded to Steam before PS4 release.
Ps4 version releases.
Game stays there, unchanged, for exactly a year.
Game releases on Steam with barely any marketing.
Please, oh please, try and explain this bizarre situation with anything but "they were paid to keep this game off PC".
Toadthemushroom
Member
Exactly this. I can make a decision whether to get it now for my Xbox One or maybe wait for the Switch or PS4 versions.
Mr Moose
Member
Fair enough.
I just find it really odd that Sony would pay for FFX year exclusive over PC. If they did, that's really shitty and it just makes no sense to me. If they really did that, they deserve the negativity.
But it's FFX... Why? It just seems stupid. A stupid deal with 0 benefit that I can see.
Why do these developers/publishers agree to the 1-year exclusivity deals?
Don't they lose out on multiplat day-one sales?
I get why platform holders like Sony and the others would want (temporary) exclusivity deals, but clearly the devs/pubs like that shit too since it keeps happening ~~~
Don't they lose out on multiplat day-one sales?
I get why platform holders like Sony and the others would want (temporary) exclusivity deals, but clearly the devs/pubs like that shit too since it keeps happening ~~~
DalikSkywing
Member
You guys already forgot when nier automata was presented as Full exclusive at PSX? How haven't you already figured out Sony intentions is unbelievable
Ok, wasn't familiar with that. But why would they pay to keep it off steam? Doesn't make any sense.
Meanwhile Microsoft gets a free pass from you all the time.
Chairmanchuck
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It was the first PS2 FF game, to a lot of people it is what FF7 was to "my generation".
I mean what does Sony get from RE7 VR exclusivity? PC-Gamers with a Vive or an Oculus wont buy PSVR just for that game.
Sonys responsibility is to their own user Base not gamers in general and can spend their money how they choose.
I don't see the point of games like FFX or zodiac age exclusivity but meh. If they think that benefits their user base they are entitled to spend their money their way.
I don't see the point of games like FFX or zodiac age exclusivity but meh. If they think that benefits their user base they are entitled to spend their money their way.
Dredd97
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Regarding the Zodiac Age, a PS2 exclusive gets a PS4 remaster and everybody is salty? I mean it was a PS2 exclusive, besides the possibility of a PC release down the line, did nobody think it wouldn't stay exclusive to playstation?
Abilidebob
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I have no idea, maybe they have a budget specific for exclusivity deals and had to choose more games to spend it on.
How, in what world, is a exclusivity deal, especially for a single-player game, something that benefits a platform's userbase? Would the PS4 FFX players have a worse time playing because they knew that PC users were, GASP, playing the game at the same time? Like seriously, re-read your post and try to make sense of it. Exclusivity deals like that aren't for their own userbase, it's to make the other platforms look worse.
Unless, you know, you're talking about how those deals stroke the players ego, and I can see how that would be a benefit to them.
Why would SE pay for the work on a PC port but then leave it untouched for exactly one year?
digoutyoursoul
Member
I'm fine if Sony does it but anyone else...I won't be too happy and will likely start petitions or something.
So out of generosity Sony paid publishers to keep games off of other platforms?
LastOne2100
Member
Some of these cases seem to be confusing console manufacturer deals with decisions from publishers / developers to follow the money.
Porting to PC for developers who have little to no PC experience takes time, why slow down recouping money from a version that can can be ready sooner, when PC gamers show time and time again the late PC ports don't impact sales negativity, and many times get them to buy multiple copies?
That being said, cases of actual deals to hold a game from consumers are a shit practice.
Porting to PC for developers who have little to no PC experience takes time, why slow down recouping money from a version that can can be ready sooner, when PC gamers show time and time again the late PC ports don't impact sales negativity, and many times get them to buy multiple copies?
That being said, cases of actual deals to hold a game from consumers are a shit practice.
My point was more on sales. It's not like it was ever going to sell massive amounts to justify it was more to what I meant.
Games like Destiny/COD/GTA etc one can understand as they sell millions and have a multiplayer aspect where you want a strong player base. Does not apply for games like Zodiac Age/FFX.
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