Captain Europe
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It's shitty and pointless, and it's not a first party exclusive either so it doesn't add any worth to the console's uniqueness.
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1 year exclusivity deals - Your take on that?
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Which is why i raised my doubt that Sony are the ones to blame for zodiac age/ffx delay pc release.
DalikSkywing
Member
What?!
Dredd97
Member
I'm not disagreeing with you, and would love a PC version, but the fact the original was only ever on the PS2 gave me the feeling it might never end up on anything else...
travisbickle
Member
I think he means with such a large install base, Sony aren't paying anything and still some publishers are choosing to release first on one platform for other reasons.
I can kind of guess that MS paid for exclusivity on Tomb Raider because they stood on stage at E3, but if there's a Japanese game that I've never heard of, I don't know?
I'm going to guess that's a snarky comment in response to the first reply of the thread
digoutyoursoul
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It was a obvious joke
DalikSkywing
Member
They stood on stage with nier automata and said it was a full ps exclusive while it was never.
Melchiah
Member
I could certainly do without the kind of exclusivity deals that Rise of the Tomb Raider, Inside, Dragon Age: Inquisition - Jaws of Hakkon, Plants vs. Zombies: Garden Warfare, Mass Effect 2, Bioshock, Limbo, and Braid had. Use the resources to create games of your own, instead of preventing everyone from playing 3rd party games.
NiOh is on Steam database since May 2016.
https://steamdb.info/changelist/1990774/
Pretty illustration of how Sony is doing things, we have been told several times that the game was only planned for PS4, which is a lie.
https://steamdb.info/changelist/1990774/
Pretty illustration of how Sony is doing things, we have been told several times that the game was only planned for PS4, which is a lie.
schwabdizzle
Banned
I think business is business. I look at it like exclusives, if you want to play you have to pay.
Captain Europe
Member
Exclusives are designed for certain consoles in mind from the bottom up, multiplatform timed exclusives are designed for multiple consoles, except they wait cos of the $$$$$.
travisbickle
Member
So yeah, I think they pay money when they stand on stage. Surprised the publisher sees that game selling well enough on Xbox to release it, did it sell well on PS outside Japan?
sixteen-bit
Member
I don't play games until way after the hype dies down anyway so it doesn't affect me
Microsoft usually disclosures when a game is a timed exclusive. Sony always do all they can to hide it.
http://wccftech.com/niohs-game-dire...on-average-no-plans-for-pc-release-currently/
5 months after the game appeared on Steam database the game director said it was not planned for PC.
Diprosalic
Banned
Don't care one bit. There's no game i can't wait a year to get.
Nioh sure. I can see that, wasn't Sony the publisher of that game in some areas? But zodiac age and ffx? Yeah no. Square has a habit of releasing games a year later on different platforms. Case in point final fantasy 7 and 9. They released more than a year before being released on PS4 with 9 being just over a year. Fuck we haven't even gotten 8 and that's from 2013
I think it's super shitty overall. Like I don't gain anything from other people not being able to play a game, fuck outta here with that BS. Like the Destiny DLC exclusivity shit was gross as hell, and I'm a PS4 owner who was originally going to buy the game on PS4 anyways, but the fact that XB1 owners are only getting some destiny DLC after the 2nd game launches? Fuck off
I mostly play on PC nowadays so we usually get games later, but the reasoning behind the delayed launch on PC will drastically affect my buying habits. Is it delayed because you need to put in the extra work to optimize it and make it run smoothly on PC? Alright, that's fair, take your time.
Is your team super small and you can't actually afford to work on multiple ports simultaneously? Alright, I understand that, no harm no foul.
If it's because of a shitty exclusivity contract? Hope the money was worth it because the only time I'll pick up your game is during a steam sale for $10. Like you're already making me wait 1yr+ to play your game, I can wait another 6 months-1yr and get it at a fraction of the price, since my business clearly means so little to you anyways.
I mostly play on PC nowadays so we usually get games later, but the reasoning behind the delayed launch on PC will drastically affect my buying habits. Is it delayed because you need to put in the extra work to optimize it and make it run smoothly on PC? Alright, that's fair, take your time.
Is your team super small and you can't actually afford to work on multiple ports simultaneously? Alright, I understand that, no harm no foul.
If it's because of a shitty exclusivity contract? Hope the money was worth it because the only time I'll pick up your game is during a steam sale for $10. Like you're already making me wait 1yr+ to play your game, I can wait another 6 months-1yr and get it at a fraction of the price, since my business clearly means so little to you anyways.
Oh look persecution complex what a surprise /s.
It's shit if done for the simple reason to delay the game to other platform. If it's done in exchange for providing resources for the Dev to finish a game there I see no issue.
It's shit if done for the simple reason to delay the game to other platform. If it's done in exchange for providing resources for the Dev to finish a game there I see no issue.
I mean people can have different opinions on those subjects as they are not similar in any way outside of them being about Sony.
TheThreadsThatBindUs
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The logical leap that goes from "Game A uploaded on SteamDB a year prior to release" to "Sony paid for an exclusivity deal", is absolutely mind-boggling. You cannot consider the latter to be anything other than speculation.
Of course there's a possibility for it to be true that Sony did make a deal with the publisher in these instances, but the time-stamps in the Steam DB are not sufficient evidence alone of that.
Some of you would make shit lawyers, I tell you.
Of course there's a possibility for it to be true that Sony did make a deal with the publisher in these instances, but the time-stamps in the Steam DB are not sufficient evidence alone of that.
Some of you would make shit lawyers, I tell you.
Abilidebob
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Again, please give me one, just ONE explanation that makes sense for it.
DalikSkywing
Member
There's more to that, add the fact that they hide their deals by saying bullshit like "console exclusive" and outright lieing when talking about nier automata as full exclusive on stage, nioh siutation and crash remaster too.
A decent lawyer considers precedents, sony payed for exactly 1 year exclusivity with Capcom. Maybe a shit lawyer like you didn't even think about it, uh?
A decent lawyer considers precedents, sony payed for exactly 1 year exclusivity with Capcom. Maybe a shit lawyer like you didn't even think about it, uh?
Reckheim
Member
both companies do it, and its bullshit.
Strangelove77
Member
As long as it comes out on other systems.
Ghostbound
Member
It can definitely be frustrating. The most annoying instances are when they try to hide the fact that the game is only a timed exclusive, Nioh being one of the more recent examples.
Very consistent list you got there.
Very consistent list you got there.
Sad Affleck
Member
Exactly. It's a shit practice.
RoboGeorgeForeman
Banned
I hate exclusives in general. But one year exclusivity deals are complete horseshit and they're why I haven't bought a PS4. I don't want to spend $400 on a console only for the game to release on a platform that I already have later on down the line.
Being vague is one thing but lying is unacceptable in my opinion.
Dredd97
Member
when the X360 was the best selling console out of the 2 at that time, it's not the same now..
I'm still of the opinion there won't be an xbox version (but wouldn't rule out a PC or switch version)
Heavy's Sandvich
Member
No real issue with it, extremely competitive and unpredictable gaming landscape.
No issue with a studio trying to mitigate risk or platform holder trying to gain an advantage.
No issue with a studio trying to mitigate risk or platform holder trying to gain an advantage.
Shifty
Member
The dominant platform holder of a given generation will always be chasing exclusives in order to choke out the competition. Sony's all over it this gen, and Microsoft were all over it last gen.
MS are still jockeying for it this gen of course, what with the Tekkenesque "EXCLUSIVE" announcer at E3, but I feel like Sony are having more success.
Overall I think first-party exclusives are fine by their nature, but moneyhatting third-party developers to specifically deny the competing platform is a shitty move. Those funds should be going toward making more compelling content for your own platform.
And Sony shooting for a bunch of VR exclusives (RE7, Polybius, etc.) is damaging to the potential success of the medium since it's still in its infancy.
Personally I hope the whole crossplay situation resolves itself and sets a precedent for equality across platforms, opening the way for the death of exclusives. Realistically speaking though, it's business. They'll probably keep doing it.
MS are still jockeying for it this gen of course, what with the Tekkenesque "EXCLUSIVE" announcer at E3, but I feel like Sony are having more success.
Overall I think first-party exclusives are fine by their nature, but moneyhatting third-party developers to specifically deny the competing platform is a shitty move. Those funds should be going toward making more compelling content for your own platform.
And Sony shooting for a bunch of VR exclusives (RE7, Polybius, etc.) is damaging to the potential success of the medium since it's still in its infancy.
Personally I hope the whole crossplay situation resolves itself and sets a precedent for equality across platforms, opening the way for the death of exclusives. Realistically speaking though, it's business. They'll probably keep doing it.
Shadow Broker
Banned
Dont care for it or against it.
If Nintendo did it for the Switch and its a game I want Ill buy it. My whole thing if it happens to a game I want I would want it on the system I mainly game on (Switch) but if another one of the console creators did it for a game I want whatever... I wont complain. Dog eat dog world.
If Nintendo did it for the Switch and its a game I want Ill buy it. My whole thing if it happens to a game I want I would want it on the system I mainly game on (Switch) but if another one of the console creators did it for a game I want whatever... I wont complain. Dog eat dog world.
Have you thought that maybe the Steam database isn't an accurate representation of when the game was worked on or finished? After all, the PC version of X/X-2 has several features that weren't in the PS3 or PS4 versions like cutscene skipping and boosters. Why would those features not be in the PS4 version as well, if they were both finished at the same time?
Unless Valve paid Square to keep the extra features exclusive to the PC version 🤔
Hate it. Hated it since the 360 days.
It's one company using limited gaming division budgets to pay to prevent other gamers from having content that the gamers on the payor companies' hardware otherwise would have had anyways.
Unless you enjoy a game more knowing other people can play it, it just seems like the money could be better spent elsewhere. In Sony's case, maybe on better PSN Plus "free" games.
It's one company using limited gaming division budgets to pay to prevent other gamers from having content that the gamers on the payor companies' hardware otherwise would have had anyways.
Unless you enjoy a game more knowing other people can play it, it just seems like the money could be better spent elsewhere. In Sony's case, maybe on better PSN Plus "free" games.
It's an accurate representation though.
Give War A Chance
Member
They're better than never getting to play a game without investing $200+ dollars in another consolenyou don't necessarily want.
Not great, but better than the alternative that the game is fully exclusive.
Not great, but better than the alternative that the game is fully exclusive.
Yea ms was very transparent when they announced rise of tomb raider....
rakkadakka
Member
The Destiny 1 PS exclusive content feels worst to me.
Only came out on Xbox after the freaking sequel was released.
Come on.
Only came out on Xbox after the freaking sequel was released.
Come on.
Personally I find it lame but at the end of the day it's business and that isn't going to change.
I am pretty sure I have read a few comments of people being annoyed at Sony snagging exclusive DLC contents.
I am pretty sure I have read a few comments of people being annoyed at Sony snagging exclusive DLC contents.
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