Anyone who pays attention to ratings had plenty of time to get over that sadness though. We all saw this coming.You can be sad about it without being surprised, you know.
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2016-17 TV Cancellations Thread: TNT finds "Nothing can come of nothing."
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Cornballer
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Time to make Superman a recurring character
Yay, an onslaught of filler reality TV has been averted!
Razgriz-Specter
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Let Superman have the rare appearances,
but make Lois & Clark legitimate supporting cast.
dead souls
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Great show terrible news. Why does everything need to be an ongoing series?
UPFRONTS SCHEDULE!
May 15 (morning): NBC
May 15 (afternoon): Fox
May 16 (morning): ESPN
May 16 (late morning): Univision
May 16 (afternoon): ABC
May 17 (morning): Turner
May 17 (afternoon): CBS
May 18 (morning): The CW
May 18 (afternoon): NBC Universal Cable
Dedication Through Light
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Isnt it a book series?
CW's Monday just collapsed after this last break, damn.
I feel like nobody remembers how bad that show actually was. The current lineup of comic book shows are still far ahead of that mess.
I feel like nobody remembers how bad that show actually was. The current lineup of comic book shows are still far ahead of that mess.
oh, and the Hulu upfront is going on right now
and look what was picked up! http://deadline.com/2017/05/marvels-runaways-the-first-hulu-series-orders-upfront-1202082303/
#pray4stump
The First sounds neat, IMO
[edit] Let's get some Tuesday ratings in here: http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/the-sked-tuesday-network-scorecard-5-2-2017.html
Great News doesn't look ... well, you know.
and look what was picked up! http://deadline.com/2017/05/marvels-runaways-the-first-hulu-series-orders-upfront-1202082303/
#pray4stump
The First sounds neat, IMO
[edit] Let's get some Tuesday ratings in here: http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/the-sked-tuesday-network-scorecard-5-2-2017.html
Great News doesn't look ... well, you know.
Great News, we got some bad news for ya!
AoS is steady from the increase after adjustments last week. Curious to see what The Flash reveal does for the show next week.
It's been a while and still am completely baffled by the move of Brooklyn 99 to Tuesday. Killed any fanbase the show had
AoS is steady from the increase after adjustments last week. Curious to see what The Flash reveal does for the show next week.
It's been a while and still am completely baffled by the move of Brooklyn 99 to Tuesday. Killed any fanbase the show had
Razgriz-Specter
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Smallville at least initially was aimed differently so the faults weren't as in your face.
It got terrible for a while and really dragged by the end but the show was just different imo.
I'd kinda put Gotham in that column even with it being my favorite hero show of all.
Agents of Shield as well.
However majority of the time Arrow, Flash and Legends are live action comics/cartoons.
Meanwhile Supergirl doesn't know what the hell it is and its just a mess of Lois & Clark romance angle, Smallville's halfassed nature
and hardly anything on Flash or Arrow's cape antics.
I swear it feels like Supergirl shit is less than 5% of an episode, while romance is 85% and DEO is 10%
On the other had Lois & Clark had so little Superman but was absolutely great because Lois, Clark, Perry, etc were legitimate characters.
If we look at the ratings, a cancellation is the logical choice. It has the advantage of cross promotion, being owned by ABC and good DVR ratings.
Nah, it wasn't all bad. Seasons 1-3 were fun, specifically 2 and 3.
4 was bad with the whole "evil witch possesses Lana" nonsense.
5 felt like a breath of fresh air and is one of the best seasons while the quality of season 6 was all over the place. Season 7 was terrible and legitimately the worst season of the show.
8 kind of "saved" the show like season 5 did, despite the lame ending to the Doomsday arc. Season 9 is probably the best in the series. I'd say that season would stand up against today's CW comic shows. Zod was awesome.
10 was a good ending to the show but they didn't do nearly as good of a job with Darkseid as they did with Zod. Some really good episodes though.
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Dedication Through Light
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Great News doesn't look ... well, you know.
That mass exodus once the Voice turned off, and how the network reclaimed 3 million viewers once Chicago Fire came on. I think this is one of the most dramatic swings in viewers Ive seen in my few months following this thread.
It's similar to ABC Sundays last season, in which Blood & Oil was sandwiched between Once Upon a Time and Quantico. OUAT viewers by the millions actively fled the network during that hour, then piled back in for Quantico. Every week. It was comical.
That stinks. At least there's still several months to catch up on shows there, before they go down.
Hope they're planning on making/acquiring new content to replace it.
Thunder Monkey
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Smallville had an interesting premise. Superboy/7th Heaven. Family drama with superheroics.
L&C was terrible.
Characters were as paperthin as they are on Supergirl, and Supergirl has no big reveal that Lois is a clone by eating a frog.
My God that show was terrible.
Supergirl is it's own mess, but I definitely give it the edge over L&C.
Did give me a lasting crush on Teri Hatcher though.
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I wonder if this begins to crumble the Jenga tower that is VRV.
firehawk12
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I feel like the only major appeal of VRV is getting a Funimation and Crunchyroll subscription under one roof.
Better watch old HBO shows now before they're paywalled forever I guess.
I feel like the only major appeal of VRV is getting a Funimation and Crunchyroll subscription under one roof.
Better watch old HBO shows now before they're paywalled forever I guess.
Dedication Through Light
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I hate the post cable world, as why do we need all these streaming services and/or companies hoarding stuff on their own service, and people who are proponents for streaming seem to love paying so much, collectively there must be people who are paying more than they were when they had cable.
I love streaming over cable, but I wish I could have an all-in-one platform. Contracts, money etc. are mucking it up. Anime is being a pain too (Sentai shows going to Anime Network instead of Crunchyroll).
As someone with Netflix, Hulu, Crunchyroll (and well, Prime) it can add up. Then things like HBO have to go exclusive again.
Someone leaked the Runaways trailer. Looks pretty good.
dead souls
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This is how it was always going to turn out and why I've never understood why people acted like streaming was going to be some big revolution.
In theory, paying only for the channels you want and cutting out the chaff is a good idea. However the reality of how these services were always going to be priced meant that it would never be a viable alternative. I remember people saying these services were going to cost like $2-$5 a month and me laughing my ass off.
Seeso was even less appealing than Crackle
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
I've said it before, but I'm at the point where the cost isn't the issue. It's that I don't have time to watch the things I want on the services I have. So why would I add more? Even if it's only $2, I'm not going to bother cause I know I don't have time to use it.
I think they need to do more add-on style services, like what Amazon and Hulu did with Showtime and Starz. Honestly, a lot of the appeal for me is being able to just start up one app and watch there. I'm probably more likely to try something if it's just a small added cost on an app I know I'll use, as opposed to a new login on a new app.
RatskyWatsky
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Good. Kill Seeso, license the programming internationally on Netflix. I probably would've liked the service but I can't damn well access it can I.
No, it didn't. Go back and watch. Flash's Savitar is amazing in comparison to some of Smallville's stuff.
The first three seasons, 90% of the episodes are pointless freak of the week filler. And unlike the modern stuff they don't even tie into the comics.
tearsintherain
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Thank god these stupid one off streaming sites are maybe finally starting to shut down, every week it seems a new one pops up as an advertiser on podcasts and I thought I was starting to be the lone weird guy who doesn't want to watch new shows on shit like Go90, SeeSo, Veoh, and whatever other 5-8 letter mashup you can string together.
You know what you should do? Put your goddamn show on Youtube, make the first few episodes free, and charge for the rest. Also put it up on Amazon and iTunes i guess. Stop making a new streaming site, no ones got time or phone app storage space for that shit anymore. I guess there's no way to fight the major networks from trying to make Hulu still a thing, but at least focus all your efforts on that one thing instead of creating a thousand headed streaming hydra.
And yes, that includes you too CBS All Access, you aren't going to get millions of people to pay a monthly fee for some random new Star Trek show.
You know what you should do? Put your goddamn show on Youtube, make the first few episodes free, and charge for the rest. Also put it up on Amazon and iTunes i guess. Stop making a new streaming site, no ones got time or phone app storage space for that shit anymore. I guess there's no way to fight the major networks from trying to make Hulu still a thing, but at least focus all your efforts on that one thing instead of creating a thousand headed streaming hydra.
And yes, that includes you too CBS All Access, you aren't going to get millions of people to pay a monthly fee for some random new Star Trek show.
You have no idea how happy I am that ST will be airing on Space (Canada's version of Syfy) here.
Keep CBS All Access long enough for The Good Fight and Star Trek to gain traction then move it to Netflix. Then again, in many territories the latter is already there.
I mean CBS actually has more than enough content for a streaming service, it's just their demographic will never use one.
I mean CBS actually has more than enough content for a streaming service, it's just their demographic will never use one.
Season 5 was the one filled with the drama over Lana and Lex getting married and the fake baby , right? That was a bad fucking season. Smallville was at its worst when it was trying to play up the drama between Lana and Clark. That relationship should have ended at graduation.
Nah, that's 6, the one I mentioned was all over the place.
5 started with Clark losing his powers and Braniac being introduced as a recurring villain. It had Clark and Lex's friendship finally fall apart a bit in a pretty great scene with Clark legit punching Lex in the face. It also included two of the best episodes in the series, "Lexmas" and "Reckoning," the episode where Pa Kent dies.
Seeso getting the axe won't be that surprising, you don't launch a streaming service in that state. HBO Nordic did the same thing (+stupid pricepoint), it took them well over a year, many expensive fixes, and some pretty decent incentives to start building a subscriber base.
Comedy is also a niche that is catered to (Comedy Central), which doesn't really help.
We're not witnessing the end of streaming services, or the start of some mass consolidation. We're witnessing the imminent death of a poorly run service with an unclear target audience.
And don't put shit on youtube. Their video compression is a hate crime.
Comedy is also a niche that is catered to (Comedy Central), which doesn't really help.
We're not witnessing the end of streaming services, or the start of some mass consolidation. We're witnessing the imminent death of a poorly run service with an unclear target audience.
And don't put shit on youtube. Their video compression is a hate crime.
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