Ori and OG BC were on my wishlist but I feel I didn't really get anything new to look forward to. State of Decay, Cuphead 2 and Ashen impressed at least so it wasn't all bad but still disappointing. I want new big first party games at E3 but all that was there was the yearly racing game and rehashes of announced games.
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2017 Microsoft E3 Conference [Over]
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psynergylover
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ill give them a 7/10; it really was a decent conference, just becasue most of the game didn't interest me doesn't mean that there's someone out there who's not "balls of the wall" excited, they showed a great amount of games but none were able move me into buying a XB1X.(yet)
I wasn't too surprised buy the price and personally not too bothered by it; people want more more powerful tech on their console the price has to increase, I certainly believe the next generation of consoles(at least from Sony and MS) are going to be closer to the $500 price tag.
I wasn't too surprised buy the price and personally not too bothered by it; people want more more powerful tech on their console the price has to increase, I certainly believe the next generation of consoles(at least from Sony and MS) are going to be closer to the $500 price tag.
yes a fable themed hearthstone rip off
That was the best part IMHO, GT2 RS what a machine !
Conference was meh, hype deflated right after FM7.
I want to say this was a decent conference, but the amount of times exclusives+lack of interesting games bring it way down.
Honestly even a remaster like KH collection would have made this a much better conference imo(would have been a great timing after the new KH3 trailer)
Honestly even a remaster like KH collection would have made this a much better conference imo(would have been a great timing after the new KH3 trailer)
GoldenCrow
Member
I thought that was quite a weak show. Enjoyed that it was mainly games and the type of games thy showed were much more diverse than in recent years, a few things stood out but there were very few things there to persuade me to pick up an Xbox of any sort. Not heard of Ashen before that looks exactly like my kinda game.
NullPointer
Member
Same here. And I'm full on PS4 and have no interest in the PC side of things.
Forza always gets my interest, but they showed some other good stuff there and most importantly the games were 95% of the show.
I'd guess they'd fully reel me in with a new Forza Horizon on the X.
Rumblebones
Banned
I think it takes a certain level of arrogance for Microsoft to just carry on the way they have been carrying on these past couple of years.
This conference was supposed renew the platform, a testament to their understanding of what gamers want and their commitment to meeting those demands. It was necessary. Especially in the wake of cancelling three anticipated games that they had made much ado over announcing, invigorating the fans, only for nothing to come of it but disappointment.
I wasn't expecting a whole lot of new, fresh first party ideas, but I was expecting a fair amount. I was expecting for most to be a ways off, but nonetheless coming, new ideas to reshape the identity and direction of Xbox.
This conference was nothing like that. What a bitter disappointment.
This conference was supposed renew the platform, a testament to their understanding of what gamers want and their commitment to meeting those demands. It was necessary. Especially in the wake of cancelling three anticipated games that they had made much ado over announcing, invigorating the fans, only for nothing to come of it but disappointment.
I wasn't expecting a whole lot of new, fresh first party ideas, but I was expecting a fair amount. I was expecting for most to be a ways off, but nonetheless coming, new ideas to reshape the identity and direction of Xbox.
This conference was nothing like that. What a bitter disappointment.
Lord of Ostia
Member
Disappointing imo, showed some cool games but most will be on PS4 or Steam day one so like...woopdeedoo? And the exclusives they did have didn't look great. I figured Scorpio would be $500 but I also think it's ton a be a hard sell at that price.
Sony E3 strategy, sign all major games on marketing deals. Let MS choke on stage.
Honestly I can't believe that worked. I just assumed MS would fill the gaps with new first party games.
NOPE.
It'll be a huge success!
FlaygletheBagel
Banned
Hot take: EA did a better job promoting their games yesterday than Microsoft did convincing everyone to buy their new console.
Ori looks great though. Very much looking forward to playing that one on my PC.
Ori looks great though. Very much looking forward to playing that one on my PC.
That was pretty much as I expected sadly. Pretty weak.
I feel sorry for them really. They just don't have the cache anymore to get anything proper meaningful. They're sadly still paying heavily for the sins of Mattrick.
I do wish them all the best though, we need good competition in this space. That being said I think that's that for the generation really for the long term. Only recourse the team can do now is invest big in first party exclusives.
5/10 (Took a whole point off for their confusing "exclusive" language)
I feel sorry for them really. They just don't have the cache anymore to get anything proper meaningful. They're sadly still paying heavily for the sins of Mattrick.
I do wish them all the best though, we need good competition in this space. That being said I think that's that for the generation really for the long term. Only recourse the team can do now is invest big in first party exclusives.
5/10 (Took a whole point off for their confusing "exclusive" language)
BlazingDarkness
Member
I saw a Fable card game in there (lol)
lord_of_flood
Member
Some general thoughts:
- Pacing was actually good, for the most part. Mostly just trailer after trailer (though the Forza segment with the Porsche was bad, please never do that again).
- $499 X1X is pretty much DOA given the lineup of games.
- Speaking of games: MS really lost out on console exclusives this gen, eh? Sea of Thieves and Ori were the only real standouts in their lineup this year. Sea of Thieves has the potential to be MS's killer app but we'll see.
- Not that it really matters, but the multiplats weren't super great either, for the most part. Exceptions were Dragonball Fighters, Code Vein (which looks much better now than its first showing), and surprisingly, Anthem. Never thought I'd actually be intrigued by an EA game. It's certainly been quite a while, so I'm interested in seeing where it goes.
TwiztidElf
Member
What was the game between The Last Night and Code Vein?
Was it called Artful Glove or something?
Was it called Artful Glove or something?
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Weird conference.
Between the confusing wording for exclusivity and the mind boggling focus on low grade visual games for a console thats the most powerful in the world, i really don't know what they were thinking.
You hear "exclusive" and they show something cool, but read that its only a console launch exclusive, which i guess means timed...thats just a game i can get elsewhere.
Forza looked nice, but what racing game doesnt these days?
Mordor got a ton of screen time despite being pretty mediocre looking and also being multiplatform. But crackdown, a game out this year, made by MS and hasn't been heard from for the last 2 years gets a really poorly made trailer (i was actually excited for this one and now i'm not)
The best games at the show were the bladerunner looking 2D game that i believe is multiplatform. Ashen (which is actually exclusive, looks stylistically great but isn't exactly a show peice for a 6 tf machine) And anthem... A game that looked fantastic, but i'm also expecting downgrades with it as time moves on...not to mention it's yet another multiplatform.
They should have teased something for next year at least that really pushed the machine. Even assassins creed (again, too much screen time) just looked samey and not even very impressive visually.
And then the bombshell of 499. I'm not sure they showed anything really to convince me to spend that much.
Between the confusing wording for exclusivity and the mind boggling focus on low grade visual games for a console thats the most powerful in the world, i really don't know what they were thinking.
You hear "exclusive" and they show something cool, but read that its only a console launch exclusive, which i guess means timed...thats just a game i can get elsewhere.
Forza looked nice, but what racing game doesnt these days?
Mordor got a ton of screen time despite being pretty mediocre looking and also being multiplatform. But crackdown, a game out this year, made by MS and hasn't been heard from for the last 2 years gets a really poorly made trailer (i was actually excited for this one and now i'm not)
The best games at the show were the bladerunner looking 2D game that i believe is multiplatform. Ashen (which is actually exclusive, looks stylistically great but isn't exactly a show peice for a 6 tf machine) And anthem... A game that looked fantastic, but i'm also expecting downgrades with it as time moves on...not to mention it's yet another multiplatform.
They should have teased something for next year at least that really pushed the machine. Even assassins creed (again, too much screen time) just looked samey and not even very impressive visually.
And then the bombshell of 499. I'm not sure they showed anything really to convince me to spend that much.
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
I just took that to mean only a selection of previously released games will get a patch. Just like PS4 Pro.
visiblemode
Member
Have been hoping for MS to light the competitive fires with a big showing. This was not that. Not at all.
This was literally tiring to watch.
I'm sorta stunned how far off from my expectations this was. It's kinda scary because we need these companies at each other's throats. It's where we win as consumers.
This just felt...like they're trying to skip this year. But they have new hardware that's supposed to change the game....
Sony is thrilled with this, I promise you. If they're strong tomorrow? Slam dunk. If weak...well hard to be compared unfavourably to this.
This was literally tiring to watch.
I'm sorta stunned how far off from my expectations this was. It's kinda scary because we need these companies at each other's throats. It's where we win as consumers.
This just felt...like they're trying to skip this year. But they have new hardware that's supposed to change the game....
Sony is thrilled with this, I promise you. If they're strong tomorrow? Slam dunk. If weak...well hard to be compared unfavourably to this.
I didn't watch the conference. I've just been reading the comments and the take away seems to be Cuphead and Ori for exclusives as well as original XBOX BC. I dunno but if Sony announced that the PS4 could play all PS2 games, I don't think anybody would be jumping for joy. Nice to have, no one would use it.
sems4arsenal
Member
Not bad but not great. Whoever leaked that price could've just saved the conference.
Flintty
Member
Disappointing.
I'm also hoping that first party platformer that's not Conker is a massive troll and in a later trailer Conker is revealed and kicks him in the nuts.
I wish...
It looks OK for the kids but just very... safe.
In the short term, sure.
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Stumpokapow
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Forza Motorsport 7 - Visually looked great, but I'd be remiss if I didn't say my reaction was "This would be so great if it was a good game"
Metro Exodus - Looked spectacular, really amazing. Loved the vibrancy of the exterior scenes, and the series-standard environmental effects. Metro and STALKER are merging!
Assassin's Creed Origins - Looked surprisingly good visually. Not sure I'm sold on jumping back in on this franchise, but a good start.
PUBG - Their token "something huge from PC from 6 months ago"
Deep Rock Galactic - When this was a Minecraft with guns exploration game, it looked great. When it became a twin-stick arena shooter, it got more boring.
State of Decay 2 - Glad they expanded the base building simulation. Animation still seemed choppy. Still, looking forward to it depending on the platform situation, they've been cagey about whether they're going to abandon the million+ sales they got on Steam.
The Darwin Project - Wow, a more boring battle royale game. There are like 50 of these. Stooop.
Minecraft paid Mods and 4k - I don't think Microsoft has done much to improve Minecraft since buying it. The new visuals look bad. Paid servers and mods, meh
Dragon Ball - No interest in either fighting games or DB, but this looked excellent. Genuinely couldn't tell if it was 2D or 3D.
Black Desert - The initial setup looked good but then it became Korean MMO trash.
The Last Night - This continues to look excellent.
The Artful Escape - I don't think I'm baked enough for this but it looks wonderful.
Code Vein - Wow, Z-tier Namco Bandai trash.
Sea of Thieves - This is shaping up to be Rare's best game ever if they pull it off.
Tacoma - Glad to get a date but the teaser didn't show us anything.
Super Lucky's Tale - Boy, this does not look good. As a free pack-in for VR, great, but on its own it looks like a low-end mobile title.
Cuphead - FINALLY
Montage - Raidens of the Broken Planet looks bad, Surviving Mars looks excellent, Ooblets looks great, Hello Neighbor is going to be awesome, everything else was like "Wow 70% positive review Steam games from 2015-2016 passsss"
Ashen - Odd that MS sold the publishing rights to this, I guess they're starting to pull out of publishing external indies?
Life is Strange: Before the Storm - Of course I'm going to play this, but I can't say I'm convinced this was the right decision and Idol Minds has an iffy track record.
Crackdown 3 - Looks like Crackdown, but newer and better. Looking forward to it. Sumo Digital I trust a lot more, so I'm glad to see development has been entirely given over to them.
Shadow of War - I'm told the first game was really good but this demoed extremely poorly.
Ori and the Will O Wisps - Hell yes.
Xbox OG BC - I will buy an Xbox One if I can play Breakdown, Myst 3, Panzer Dragoon, and JSR:F.
Anthem - Animation looked good, movement looked great, shooting looked mediocre, but honestly my biggest impression was how fake the demo looked. Fake co-op banter, fake looking exploration prompt, the initial environment looked CG... and it's 2018. So I suspect this will be a game that gets downgraded.
Overall, I think Microsoft showed that the Xbox One X seems like a reasonable next step and they've got a bunch of third party content in the pipeline and some interesting first party content. I don't think $499 is a killer price, I think it's competitive and interesting, but I don't think the generational pattern will change. As a PC-first gamer who doesn't like Windows 10 Store, I'm mostly interested in cutting through the exclusivity weasel words and finding out how many of these games will get a wider release. 7/10
Metro Exodus - Looked spectacular, really amazing. Loved the vibrancy of the exterior scenes, and the series-standard environmental effects. Metro and STALKER are merging!
Assassin's Creed Origins - Looked surprisingly good visually. Not sure I'm sold on jumping back in on this franchise, but a good start.
PUBG - Their token "something huge from PC from 6 months ago"
Deep Rock Galactic - When this was a Minecraft with guns exploration game, it looked great. When it became a twin-stick arena shooter, it got more boring.
State of Decay 2 - Glad they expanded the base building simulation. Animation still seemed choppy. Still, looking forward to it depending on the platform situation, they've been cagey about whether they're going to abandon the million+ sales they got on Steam.
The Darwin Project - Wow, a more boring battle royale game. There are like 50 of these. Stooop.
Minecraft paid Mods and 4k - I don't think Microsoft has done much to improve Minecraft since buying it. The new visuals look bad. Paid servers and mods, meh
Dragon Ball - No interest in either fighting games or DB, but this looked excellent. Genuinely couldn't tell if it was 2D or 3D.
Black Desert - The initial setup looked good but then it became Korean MMO trash.
The Last Night - This continues to look excellent.
The Artful Escape - I don't think I'm baked enough for this but it looks wonderful.
Code Vein - Wow, Z-tier Namco Bandai trash.
Sea of Thieves - This is shaping up to be Rare's best game ever if they pull it off.
Tacoma - Glad to get a date but the teaser didn't show us anything.
Super Lucky's Tale - Boy, this does not look good. As a free pack-in for VR, great, but on its own it looks like a low-end mobile title.
Cuphead - FINALLY
Montage - Raidens of the Broken Planet looks bad, Surviving Mars looks excellent, Ooblets looks great, Hello Neighbor is going to be awesome, everything else was like "Wow 70% positive review Steam games from 2015-2016 passsss"
Ashen - Odd that MS sold the publishing rights to this, I guess they're starting to pull out of publishing external indies?
Life is Strange: Before the Storm - Of course I'm going to play this, but I can't say I'm convinced this was the right decision and Idol Minds has an iffy track record.
Crackdown 3 - Looks like Crackdown, but newer and better. Looking forward to it. Sumo Digital I trust a lot more, so I'm glad to see development has been entirely given over to them.
Shadow of War - I'm told the first game was really good but this demoed extremely poorly.
Ori and the Will O Wisps - Hell yes.
Xbox OG BC - I will buy an Xbox One if I can play Breakdown, Myst 3, Panzer Dragoon, and JSR:F.
Anthem - Animation looked good, movement looked great, shooting looked mediocre, but honestly my biggest impression was how fake the demo looked. Fake co-op banter, fake looking exploration prompt, the initial environment looked CG... and it's 2018. So I suspect this will be a game that gets downgraded.
Overall, I think Microsoft showed that the Xbox One X seems like a reasonable next step and they've got a bunch of third party content in the pipeline and some interesting first party content. I don't think $499 is a killer price, I think it's competitive and interesting, but I don't think the generational pattern will change. As a PC-first gamer who doesn't like Windows 10 Store, I'm mostly interested in cutting through the exclusivity weasel words and finding out how many of these games will get a wider release. 7/10
Netherscourge
Banned
Microsoft should just throw money at EA and get another Titanfall-like deal.
RedSparrows
Member
Nope, they made a massive deal about games. They are just starting way behind. Even now.
This are the games they showed:
Forza 7
Metro Exodus
Assassin's Creed Origins
PlayerUnknowns' Battlegrounds
Deep Rock Galactic
State of Decay 2
The Darwin Project
Minecraft
Dragon Ball Fighter Z
Black Dessert
The Last Night
The Artful Escape
Code Vein
Sea of Thieves
Tacoma
Super Lucky's Tale
Cuphead
Crackdown 3
Indies showcase
Ashen
Life is Strange: Before the storm
Shadow of War
Ori and the will of the Wisps
Backwards compatibility: Xbox
Anthem
Forza 7
Metro Exodus
Assassin's Creed Origins
PlayerUnknowns' Battlegrounds
Deep Rock Galactic
State of Decay 2
The Darwin Project
Minecraft
Dragon Ball Fighter Z
Black Dessert
The Last Night
The Artful Escape
Code Vein
Sea of Thieves
Tacoma
Super Lucky's Tale
Cuphead
Crackdown 3
Indies showcase
Ashen
Life is Strange: Before the storm
Shadow of War
Ori and the will of the Wisps
Backwards compatibility: Xbox
Anthem
0ptimusPayne
Member
Because the problem is they didn't diversify their AAA portfolio. They showed a lot of games, but nothing along the lines of Halo/Gears/Forza. Not everyone is overly excited to invest or upgrade from their current X1 @ $500+ just to play game like SOT in 4k..It was Crackdowns time to shine and they completely skipped over it, and showed nothing new or exciting.
I kinda of feel the same way
And the best big game reveal in this conference was EA's too
So it's over:
+ Open world Metro game!
+ The Last Night looked great
+ Cuphead and Ori
+ Xbox OG will be great if I buy another XB1
+ Xbox One X is impressive hardware all around
- So few in-house developments, not enough I can't get on PS4/PC
- Xbox One X is a terrible name and so is the price
- Crackdown 3 and SoT did not have good showings
- Anthem is great graphically but "meh" at everything else
- Minecraft again!
- Nothing whatsoever to sell me on the Xbox One X
Overall a 5/10. For a year that's supposed to sell me a likely £450-£500 device that is... not good.
And I can complete my first Bingo! No bingos and I can't believe that I didn't get a single one of my five Scorpio predictions.
+ Open world Metro game!
+ The Last Night looked great
+ Cuphead and Ori
+ Xbox OG will be great if I buy another XB1
+ Xbox One X is impressive hardware all around
- So few in-house developments, not enough I can't get on PS4/PC
- Xbox One X is a terrible name and so is the price
- Crackdown 3 and SoT did not have good showings
- Anthem is great graphically but "meh" at everything else
- Minecraft again!
- Nothing whatsoever to sell me on the Xbox One X
Overall a 5/10. For a year that's supposed to sell me a likely £450-£500 device that is... not good.
And I can complete my first Bingo! No bingos and I can't believe that I didn't get a single one of my five Scorpio predictions.
yukianderson
Member
He was blown away by the price has he has to pay to play those indies.
What A Time To Be Alive
Member
Phil witchhunt on GAF bout to be lit
pixelation
Member
Hahahahaha i'm dying here!
Sony won the next E3 for a years just from the crazy 2015 conference alone...
But seriously, what's crazy about that opinion?
Don't forget Days Gone or Death Stranding. Sony's exclusive list is massive.
Old Microsoft would have
- Focused on the Hardware all night
- Had a HALO or Gears game to tease or show
- Would have had a COD game to show
- Would have each studio' or game rep demo the game on stage
- Would dedicate a portion of the conference on Multimedia (TV & streaming video)
New Microsoft
- 42 game on screen
- Pretty 4K games have extended show times
- Xbox OG BC
- $499 Xbox One X (XbOX)
- There's a Dragonball Game?
- There's a Switch on screen... lol (8-bit wise)
- Focused on the Hardware all night
- Had a HALO or Gears game to tease or show
- Would have had a COD game to show
- Would have each studio' or game rep demo the game on stage
- Would dedicate a portion of the conference on Multimedia (TV & streaming video)
New Microsoft
- 42 game on screen
- Pretty 4K games have extended show times
- Xbox OG BC
- $499 Xbox One X (XbOX)
- There's a Dragonball Game?
- There's a Switch on screen... lol (8-bit wise)
half a moon
Banned
Meh/10. They just have no exclusives on God of War, Days Gone, Uncharted, Last of Us 2, Spiderman, Death Stranding, FF7's level. The two most impressive games (Metro & Anthem) are on PS4.
CyberChulo
Member
I don't think the conference itself is bad. Just the games that they showed. Aside from Metro, I wasnt impressed.
What you get in the Mix Pot if you watched on Mixer.
What's in the MixPot?
Rare Replay full game download. Mature game will not be awarded to accounts for users under 17 or with family settings that block purchases.
Halo Wars 2 Kinsano Leader Pack (with special bonus of 3 Blitz Packs for Xbox One players)
Minecraft Redstone Specialists Skin Pack (for Minecraft: Xbox One Edition)
Halo Warthog in Forza Horizon 3 (unique vehicle not available in the in-game store)
HAWKEN Starter Pack
No Time to Explain full game download
The Final Station full game download. Mature game will not be awarded to accounts for users under 17 or with family settings that block purchases.
What's in the MixPot?
Rare Replay full game download. Mature game will not be awarded to accounts for users under 17 or with family settings that block purchases.
Halo Wars 2 Kinsano Leader Pack (with special bonus of 3 Blitz Packs for Xbox One players)
Minecraft Redstone Specialists Skin Pack (for Minecraft: Xbox One Edition)
Halo Warthog in Forza Horizon 3 (unique vehicle not available in the in-game store)
HAWKEN Starter Pack
No Time to Explain full game download
The Final Station full game download. Mature game will not be awarded to accounts for users under 17 or with family settings that block purchases.
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