Chuck Norris
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2017 Microsoft E3 Conference [Over]
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Monkeyball
Banned
I don't get how MS can't use Rare properly. Show a Banjo, a Conker and Perfect Dark in 4K and you get the internet going nuts. HOW IS THAT SO HARD?!
Sea of thieves looks like an idea that was nice on paper, but dull in practise.
Sea of thieves looks like an idea that was nice on paper, but dull in practise.
Hatefilled Vengeance
Member
Was fine. Wish they had some more actual exclusives/surprises though. Sequels to Killer Instinct, ReCore, Sunset Overdrive. Just seemed to be lacking that extra something. Probably will still be better than Sony's though (for me at least).
It's not a surprise. During the 360 era, MS bought exclusives left and right while Sony invested in 1st party studios giving them free creative reign.
Now we're seeing the fruits of that with MS still having to buy exclusives while Sony now has a wealth of AAA studios under its belt producing exclusive content for the PlayStation brand.
Now we're seeing the fruits of that with MS still having to buy exclusives while Sony now has a wealth of AAA studios under its belt producing exclusive content for the PlayStation brand.
Lunafreya Nox Fleuret
Member
I fell asleep during this conference so i'm going to say yes.
GHG
Gold Member
No, the reality is that he's not been very good for the division and Xbox currently has less clout and identity than it's ever had as a global gaming brand.
Since Peter Moore left its all been downhill. No surprise that he moved on to bigger and better things, he had everything required for a position of this magnitude and much more. He didn't take shit from anyone and always got what was needed to take the brand forward.
Yep, if you watch him just before he announces the price his body language is a mess. He couldn't wait to get off that stage.
Poodlestrike
Banned
This is basically the issue, I feel. As a "get hyped about games" conference, it was good. As a "sell people on a brand new piece of 499 hardware that they'll probably also have to pay for multiplayer access for" conference, it didn't do it (it seems). So it got boiled down to a yes/no question and it's getting graded as such.
Kind of a shame tbh. There was some sweet stuff in there.
MS are just doubling down on games as services and its visible in their games lineup.
Tbh its hard to tell how the market will react. Most people here will say that they are dead in the water, but then again most of us care about games with sp experience so we dont know how casuals will actually react to it.
Tbh its hard to tell how the market will react. Most people here will say that they are dead in the water, but then again most of us care about games with sp experience so we dont know how casuals will actually react to it.
He listens when it's cost effective. 360 and Original Xbox BC is hard complicated work but the cost is nothing compared to a AAA game or two and the amount of content you get in return is obscene as well as easy money, consumer lock in. No brainer.
Now that's a slogan on a shirt worth wearin'.
Also, I'll be shocked if the final product even looks close to that good. It looked like the best looking game ever with nothing coming close, which is usually a big red flag.
JurassicFire
Neo Member
Hey can anyone help me out and identify the game at the beginning of this clip( the cyber trex part ) ?
https://clips.twitch.tv/AbrasiveSuccessfulMagpieHeyGuys
https://clips.twitch.tv/AbrasiveSuccessfulMagpieHeyGuys
Shadax the wizard
Member
Is there a general E3 thread to discuss random thoughts not specific to anyones presser? Can't seem to find one. Right now I'm just thinking it's a way too looong of a wait for Bethesda 😒 I'm aching for that Wolfenstein.
Thank you.
I hope everyone involved knows what they are doing.
Outside of AAA releases with large marketing campaigns this seems like a waste of money for everyone.
Imagine a Halo or new IP tailor made for the X. Even just one killer app. MS just handed us a Ferrari with no tires. How in the blue blazes they thought that was a good idea shows what you can expect from them moving forward.
I wouldn't call this a bad presser, but as someone who came into looking for confirmation that I should get a Xbox One X, I came out rather disappointed. I mean, it wasn't full of cringe like some earlier years(although bringing out a Porsche got an audible groan from me), but Crackdown looked like hot garbage and the announcement that had me the most hyped was the OXbox backwards compatibility.
Edit: it just occurred to me that I don't think we got a single major new 1st party announcement from Microsoft at the event, and that speaks volumes.
Edit: it just occurred to me that I don't think we got a single major new 1st party announcement from Microsoft at the event, and that speaks volumes.
Wasn't GAF upset that MS had so much control over Rare in the early days? Spencer lets them make what they want to make and now you're suggesting MS step in and tell them what to do?
As for saying it's dull, I'd suggest giving it a shot before you come to that conclusion. It's one of the most fun MP games I've ever played when you have a crew working together and talking to each other.
AlexFlame116
Member
I liked it! I'd give it a 7 or 8 out of 10. No Halo was a disappointment. Anthem was nice but the banter was cringy as heck. Crackdown 3 is interesting cause Terry Crews did say he was going to be at E3 a month or two ago but many assumed it would be for Overwatch's Doomfist. Cuohead is exciting. BC with OG XBOX is an amazing blessing that even though some of you couldn't care less about (even mocking some who are excited for it), it's something that I always wanted! I'm not that interested in Sea of Thieves but it looked good. I thought that Super Lucky game was Conker.
Plus I really really liked that Black Desert game and those Japanese or JRPG like games! Code Void and something else.
Prefer the name Scorpio to Xbox One X. Price is really high but I'll see what I can do.
Plus I really really liked that Black Desert game and those Japanese or JRPG like games! Code Void and something else.
Prefer the name Scorpio to Xbox One X. Price is really high but I'll see what I can do.
blue_phazon
Member
I feel like I stepped into Bizaro land coming in this thread. MS games going forward are both on PC and Console. So all I saw were a ton of great looking games I'm now looking towards playing on PC.
7/10 for me
7/10 for me
Jerm411
Member
To me....yeah.
You know what you're getting with them and their "holy shit" moments aren't that....even though they believe that and think the gaming community does as well.
Sony just does a better job at creating buzz, aligning themselves with the IP and things that frankly matter the most, and creating moments that are remembered and talked about no matter what the outcome is.
Their partnership with Kojima encapsulates all of that and is only one example....there's soooo many more.
What's one from MS that is even close? Backwards compatibility I guess....?
Deckard Chapel
Banned
Most of Microsoft's "exclusive" games all have that cheap, Saturday morning cartoon/Clone Wars look to them [Sea of Thieves for example].
I don't like it.
I don't like it.
PSlayer
Member
The problems with Xbox started in the second half of the 7th generation.
>Lack of first party games outside of Forza>Halo>gears
>Lack of japanese support and japanese exclusives.
>Lack of third party exclusives.
>Too much focus on "first on xbox" content
>Too much focus on expensive gimmicks
>Xbox exclusives coming to PC.
All those problems can be traced back to the second half of Xbox 360 life but it got worse with Xbox one because instead of trying to fix it MS went balls deep with this formula.
Most of Microsoft's "exclusive" games all have that cheap, Saturday morning cartoon/Clone Wars look to them [Sea of Thieves for example].
I don't like it.
Sea of Thieves looks amazing though.
Banjo-Kazooie
Member
Just got a console message "Thank you for watching the E3 conference on Mixer, Rare Replay is now yours!"
:O
:O
Greigor The Fellhand
Member
I think it was ARK: Survival Evoled
If a game isn't going to make money for MS, and especially if it doesn't have a post launch GaaS setup, it's probably not getting made.
Were could I see if I received the game?
Steiner_Zi
Member
This "EXCLUSIVE!11" announcement before every trailer was cringe worthy.
Yearsoflurking
Member
revenue and profit obviously took an hit in the estimate. with that said microsoft needs to do better. forget building studios they need to just straight up buy one they're behind
Nydius
Member
I legitimately started to nod off about half way through the Sea of Thieves presentation. I don't know many people who will be interested in a quasi-MMO, co-op pirate game where a bunch of the gameplay is just mundane tasks and the rest is hunting down treasure chests for what appears to be crap tier loot.
It really feels like someone had a bigger vision for the game but when it came to execution they realized they couldn't pull it off. Of course, this also gave me the nostalgic "Man, it sucks to see what's become of Rare" thoughts.
Reagan's BR
Banned
Me too. How to redeem?
DangerMouse
Member
Not really necessarily bizarro land then.
Many of those PC games you won't even need to buy from Microsoft's digital store to play on your PC since they'll probably be on Steam/GOG (plus if you have a PS4). And this was a Microsoft conference.
Deckard Chapel
Banned
Why?
I detest the look of it.
It looks like a game a daycare would sit children in front of to occupy them so the employees can catch up on their Netflix series of choice.
Yeah, this is kinda my take as well. Like they had the games but if your talking about a new console, I didn't see a Killer App that would make me drop $500 for an Xbox One X over the cheaper alternatives.
I wonder what type of monetization they'll do for Sea of Thieves? That game seems like it could become very unfun with even a little bit of microtransaction fuckery.
They didn't push it enough? I thought the whole show was basically them saying: Buy the X, the old Xbox is history, the only true Xbox experience is the X!
They were way more aggressive about it than Sony ever was with the PS4 Pro. They still made sure that the PS4 is seen as the standard PS4. In their upcoming press conference they will likely show all their games running on the standard PS4 as well.
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
Yeah someone needs to remind MS that they needed to sell their Xbox X with something else than raw power.
I won't pay 500$ for something that I can play on litterally every other platform at that price let me just upgrade my GPU and play Ps4 exclusives.
It's the first time that a console maker sold me on a ps4 pro during its conference and I never wanted a pro.
There were great games, and I'll be happy to play them on my ps4 or pc at no extra cost as well as a lot of games that are not on Xbox.
So Basically some great games but if they wanted to sell me an Xbox it was one of the worst conferrence that they could do.
Chie Satonaka
Member
The majority of the conference did nothing for me personally, but at the very least I don't feel like it was a waste of my time. Probably the best Microsoft conference I've seen.
rokkerkory
Member
size comparison vs the S
https://twitter.com/jeffbakalar/sta...io/iframe/twitter.min.html#874041989309714433
https://twitter.com/jeffbakalar/sta...io/iframe/twitter.min.html#874041989309714433
It really depends on how the pvp works. Having microtransaction fuckery in the coop pve stuff would be fine it's how it spills over into any pvp stuff that starts to suck.
I don't even have X-Box One and I thought that was a nice conference minus the 90 minutes length and that $500 applause.
A nice conference for a console I still can't justify to purchase due to the slim amount of X-Box/Windows exclusives on the horizon. I enjoyed the show though.
A nice conference for a console I still can't justify to purchase due to the slim amount of X-Box/Windows exclusives on the horizon. I enjoyed the show though.
Monkeyball
Banned
If they don't think the 3 games I mentioned would make them money, why the hell did they buy Rare?
RedSparrows
Member
Other than SoT, where are the GaaS? I don't see it. Forza?
HighResTomato
Member
Well they did keep their promise off giving away free games if you watch on Mixer.
Too bad they gave me the one game I did not want. Rare Replay.
Too bad they gave me the one game I did not want. Rare Replay.
Yup. Metro too actually. I was disappointed not to see Crackdown 3's cloud tech shown off. I feel like just saying the games are in native 4K (nearly all of them shown) isn't enough. They should partner with DF to help them show off the comparisons between X1X and X1S in ways folks can actually see side by side on their monitors.
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