They said what it was before showing, State of Decay 2 got me with that.
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2017 Microsoft E3 Conference [Over]
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They said what it was before showing, State of Decay 2 got me with that.
a lot of cool Indie titles shown which impressed me, but I am not a big MS 1st party fan. I really thought they were going to throw a ton of money at a big exclusive new first and third party title but that didn't happen. Sea of Thieves and the Indie titles may get me to bite on an S down the road if I want to play those games on the couch instead of on my computer, but no chance I drop $500 on an X.
Humdinger
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Thank you.
It's the same as timed exclusive. It'll release on Xbox first, then come to PS some time later. Maybe a couple weeks, maybe a couple months.
Thanks.
Deputy Moonman
Member
Well most people are going to go for a One S anyway. Shouldn't be a problem finding people to play games with. Thats why the whole dead on arrival narrative people keep spinning is kind of hyperbolic. Even MS said the Scorpio is only going to appeal to the most core enthusiasts. I admit I was sad about the 499 Price tag. I had considered maybe getting an Xbox One X at 399 but now I'll just wait until a sub 250 price on the One S instead.
Yearsoflurking
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2013 ruined xbox for the next decade, he's done a great job all things considered. surprised this console isn't wii u status
I think it's fair to say that even had they announced a lower price for the Scorpio, this conference would still be getting a lot of flack for lack of meaningful exclusive content. It was that bad.
Even Nintendo will top them they just have to show some cool parts of Mario Odyssey.
Sony will have the best one and Nintendo second or third if bethesda's one is any good.
SuperSonic1305
Member
Is it really going to be just Halo Wars 2, Crackdown, and Forza 7 for this year? That may be the worst lineup in Xbox history.
NullPointer
Member
Well now that $500 feels more expensive.
At this point I'm ready to agree with you. Whatever made the launch 360 special MS has clearly forgotten. Games are what drive sales. Good hardware is nothing without it. MS is in its weakest position since the OG Xbox as far as games go, maybe weakest of all time imho.
FinaruDensetsu
Member
It was an average, satisfactory conference, but one that definitely lacked a killer app or justified the existence of the Xbox One X.
And I'd be remiss if I didn't mention that Microsoft has been in dire need of new games from a variety of IPs they have had a hand in or own outright.
A new Conker, Perfect Dark, Banjo-Kazooie, Battletoads, Kameo, etc. - something from RARE's enormous IP chest. Something involving Blue Dragon or Lost Odyssey. Alan Wake or Ninja Gaiden. A new Crimson Skies. Phantom Dust. A genuine Fable. Shadow Complex. Something scavenged from the remnants of Scalebound. At this point, I'd take a new Brute Force or Blinx: Time Sweeper game.
And I'd be remiss if I didn't mention that Microsoft has been in dire need of new games from a variety of IPs they have had a hand in or own outright.
A new Conker, Perfect Dark, Banjo-Kazooie, Battletoads, Kameo, etc. - something from RARE's enormous IP chest. Something involving Blue Dragon or Lost Odyssey. Alan Wake or Ninja Gaiden. A new Crimson Skies. Phantom Dust. A genuine Fable. Shadow Complex. Something scavenged from the remnants of Scalebound. At this point, I'd take a new Brute Force or Blinx: Time Sweeper game.
Yeah, that was a bit poor overall to be honest
More gameplay from the 3rd party games
No big surprises really
Not many actual exclusives
And ones that are....weren't showcased very well
No crackdown gameplay/playtime is an actual wtf for me
Bit of an odd one this year.
Still gonna buy it though!
More gameplay from the 3rd party games
No big surprises really
Not many actual exclusives
And ones that are....weren't showcased very well
No crackdown gameplay/playtime is an actual wtf for me
Bit of an odd one this year.
Still gonna buy it though!
SprachBrooks
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What's this Mixer shit that Microsoft keep plugging?
If competition is what matters, then there is a fair point to be made about X1X having the best multiplatform titles, possibly even retroactively in many cases given the enhancements even to existing non-patched titles. It has always seemed weird to me how something like Shenmue 3 is a feather in Sony's cap even though it's coming to PC, but stuff that is console exclusive to Xbox/Win10 are dismissed without a thought. Similarly for how folks around here respond to marketing deals. When Sony does it they are cheered as being a dominant market leader, but MS seems to get skewered for it at worst or at best the games get ignored.
I say this while being eager to criticize MS for this conference btw. I think $499 is a huge mistake. I also think not explicitly laying out precisely what enhancements are coming for the patched games is a mistake too. I would have preferred they didn't spend so much time on LotR when we have already seen a fair chunk of that game already.
RedSparrows
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Aside from TLOU2, that is one big multiplatform game, 2 known entities, 2 pipe dreams. Why is that magocally, objectively better, if the problem for MS was known entities? Lack of long term announcements? But SoT has been at 3 e3s, that is a problem. So why not a problem for FF7? Etc.
Making a long show about it when basically all content is interchangeable has made that show redundant.
Humdinger
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Here's the updated list:
Console Launch Exclusives
Player Unknowns Battlegrounds
Deep Rock
Darwin
Black Desert
Last Night
The Artful something
Tacoma
Ashen
Console Exclusives
Sea of Thieves
Super Lucky's Tale
Cuphead
Ori
Crackdown 3
Forza
State of Decay 2
That's 15. They said 22, so I'm still missing 7. I guess they were buried in that indie montage.
Console Launch Exclusives
Player Unknowns Battlegrounds
Deep Rock
Darwin
Black Desert
Last Night
The Artful something
Tacoma
Ashen
Console Exclusives
Sea of Thieves
Super Lucky's Tale
Cuphead
Ori
Crackdown 3
Forza
State of Decay 2
That's 15. They said 22, so I'm still missing 7. I guess they were buried in that indie montage.
PSlayer
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Sony only need to announce a FROM Software exclusive and this E3 is pretty much over for Xbox.
They (and any other 4k system) have a similar problem VR has. You can't advertise 4k and HDR on a 1080p screen no matter how hard you try.
Maybe they think their consumer base is like Apple considering their surface products also have a premium price. The Apple of gaming lol.
They have become reactionary, which is not a recipe for success. The XboxX seems like an overreaction to being beat in power when the OG Xbox One and PS4 came out.
Streaming platform similar to Twitch
Nearly every single game shown seemed to be in native 4K.
Lots of games, many of them look great.
Xbox One X is exactly what we all knew already. A premium console designed to play the same games as the S but better.
The thing is, Microsoft has given up the idea of first party exclusives being what keeps them afloat. The real battle now is keeping people in the ecosystem. Services like BC, now with OG Xbox, and Game Pass, does that.
This is simply Microsoft doing what they do best. Because they can't beat Sony in terms of sheer exclusives.
Xbox One X is exactly what we all knew already. A premium console designed to play the same games as the S but better.
The thing is, Microsoft has given up the idea of first party exclusives being what keeps them afloat. The real battle now is keeping people in the ecosystem. Services like BC, now with OG Xbox, and Game Pass, does that.
This is simply Microsoft doing what they do best. Because they can't beat Sony in terms of sheer exclusives.
CaptainCook
Member
Just got rare replay for watching on mixer! Niceeee
FinaruDensetsu
Member
Yeah at least 6 of those must be exclusive either full or at launch. They showed a massive amount of them in the montage.
TropicanaTwista
Member
Agree. I get sick of them always showing halo, but its mind-boggling to me that when you are showing off new hardware, you dont even have a halo trailer.
NullPointer
Member
You can advertise benefits for 1080p sets though.
I saw that power in Anthem, if that was truly gameplay (and holy shit if so), and AC: Origins and Forza looked great. But I didn't really see it otherwise.
wapplew
Member
Anthem look very next gen tho.
Spencer is odd to me. He definitely listens. The fact that you get OG Xbox support as well is good and the updates to the Xbox OS is amazing.
But he's the master of just telling you what you want to hear. First off I'll say i didn't think Scalebound would have made much of a dent sales wise.
But it was nice to see MS invest in something new for their platform that's kinda out of the norm for them. But they cancel it.
For two years now they haven't had a new first party AAA game to show us. I don't think it's a problem anymore. It's the norm for them I definitely feel there will be very little investment going forward in that aspect.
But he's the master of just telling you what you want to hear. First off I'll say i didn't think Scalebound would have made much of a dent sales wise.
But it was nice to see MS invest in something new for their platform that's kinda out of the norm for them. But they cancel it.
For two years now they haven't had a new first party AAA game to show us. I don't think it's a problem anymore. It's the norm for them I definitely feel there will be very little investment going forward in that aspect.
metareferential
Member
That's not a fucking car, it's the latest 911.
And it's the best part of the show, too. xD
If you explain it, it's not a good demonstration.
Lol, 2013? They started this shit way earlier. As a former 360 owner I would've bought the whole always online thing and other 2013 bs if MS at one point showed incentive to invest in 1st party content. 4 years and nothing has changed, it's only worse now.
Chuck Norris
Banned
Thats a fools errand. Sony has cornered the market on games like Rocket League already and the majority of multiplayer gamers will go to the platform with the biggest userbase
Crayon
Member
That looked very nice now but I'll have to see how it stacks up when it's released. I expect it to look at least a little different.
Did they say it was running on the XboneX? Because I highly doubt it was. Looks like it was running on a high-end PC to me.
Deckard Chapel
Banned
Most of the "exclusives" MS showed were only timed exclusives. The first party lineup was piss-poor and literally the entire conference sold me on not buying an Xbox One X.
Even the name is a disappointment - at least "Scorpio" had some pizzazz.
facetheslayer92
Member
I miss J Allard
And Robbie Bach
And Peter Moore
Then again it took Sony fucking up royally in 2006 to give Xbox 360 a nice boost compared to their previous gen.
RedSparrows
Member
Shenmue 3 won't be at this E3, and FFVIIR and TLOU2 are highly unlikely.
Loved Crimson Skies. I wonder how well it has aged...curious to find out.
Timed release window games are hardly exclusives, and to me are not exclusive at all.
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