That's Apple's territory now.Essentially, it's all Nintendo's fault. Wii and DS have left a gaping hole and 3DS and Wii U do not look equipped to fill it back in.
That's Apple's territory now.Essentially, it's all Nintendo's fault. Wii and DS have left a gaping hole and 3DS and Wii U do not look equipped to fill it back in.
we're witnessing the slow (or fast?) decline of the age of dedicated gaming systems, being replaced by the Tablet, Smartphone, and PC.
Last generation was an aberration. From here on out, there probably can be only one "dominant" home console and maybe one handheld. Nintendo should release one more handheld like the Vita in a couple of years and they'll make some nice coin on that but no where near what they did with the DS/GBA.
And they should transition to being a versatile software publisher, releasing quality products on a range of platforms.
You know, this kind of highlights an argument I've seen a few times in sales threads; that it's not the market declining, it's just returning to normality after the one-two punch of DS and Wii.
Essentially, it's all Nintendo's fault. Wii and DS have left a gaping hole and 3DS and Wii U do not look equipped to fill it back in.
You know, this kind of highlights an argument I've seen a few times in sales threads; that it's not the market declining, it's just returning to normality after the one-two punch of DS and Wii.
Essentially, it's all Nintendo's fault. Wii and DS have left a gaping hole and 3DS and Wii U do not look equipped to fill it back in.
The Wii-U will be fine. We just saw a Nintendodirect that blew us all away not that long ago. The games are coming. Nintendo has ALWAYS been a slow burn.
So I did a few calculations with these figures.
Total sales Jan 2012 - 2778
Total sales Jan 2013 - 2111
Market decrease of 26%
Now let's look at the detail.
Nintendo vs non-Nintendo:
Total Nintendo platform sales in Jan 2012 - 999k
Total non-Nintendo platform sales in Jan 2012 - 1779k
Total Nintendo platform sales in Jan 2013 - 467k
Total non-Nintendo platform sales in Jan 2013 - 1644k
Nintendo YoY decrease - 53.3%
Non-Nintendo YoY decrease - 7.6%
Non-Nintendo YoY decrease consoles only - 3.5%
So, is it the UK market that's dead, or Nintendo that's dead in the UK?
I hope this myth that gaming is dead in the UK ceases to exist, it's Nintendo that are in serious decline. A new generation of consoles from Sony and MS would more than fix the current problems for their own decline.
But none of those games matter to a wider audience which will determine the future success of the wiiu.
But none of those games matter to a wider audience which will determine the future success of the wiiu.
Mario Kart and Mario 3D don't appeal to wider audiences? Riiiight.
Mario Kart and Mario 3D don't appeal to wider audiences? Riiiight.
First party will take them only so far, they might end up with another GC sort of success.
The Wii exploded because motion controls clicked with the casual crowd, that's about it. Its library of games is horrendous for a system that won a generation.
No it's not.
Trust me, if you played Rare games in the 90s, you knew PDZ and Kameo sucked 7 years ago...
Yes, it really is.
When the possibility of FIFA not gracing the system is actually a real plausibility given Madden's current status* and the system is likely selling ~15K units/week across all of Europe right now (looking at typical drop offs post-Dec)...The Wii-U will be fine. We just saw a Nintendodirect that blew us all away not that long ago. The games are coming. Nintendo has ALWAYS been a slow burn.
Again, the graphics and amount of shit happening on screen overshadowed the shit gameplay.
No it's not.
When the possibility of FIFA not gracing the system is actually a real plausibility given Madden's current status* and the system is likely selling ~15K units/week across all of Europe right now...
No the situation isn't fine.
*Although I do think FIFA will end up on the platform.
Then use an example they would get like PlayStation to PlayStation 2. 2 and U rhyme so that's a little bit of a bonus thrown in.Not really surprised.
No marketing + calling it "Wii U" = people think it's a tablet expansion or something
The average conversation in my country about the Wii U ends up with "What's a Wii U?" "It's the successor to the Wii, like the Wii was to the Gamecube" "What's a gamecube?" "..."
Nope. It had the best exclusives last gen and a lot of great third party games that everyone ignored.
So I did a few calculations with these figures.
Total sales Jan 2012 - 2778
Total sales Jan 2013 - 2111
Market decrease of 26%
Now let's look at the detail.
Nintendo vs non-Nintendo:
Total Nintendo platform sales in Jan 2012 - 999k
Total non-Nintendo platform sales in Jan 2012 - 1779k
Total Nintendo platform sales in Jan 2013 - 467k
Total non-Nintendo platform sales in Jan 2013 - 1644k
Nintendo YoY decrease - 53.3%
Non-Nintendo YoY decrease - 7.6%
Non-Nintendo YoY decrease consoles only - 3.5%
So, is it the UK market that's dead, or Nintendo that's dead in the UK?
I hope this myth that gaming is dead in the UK ceases to exist, it's Nintendo that are in serious decline. A new generation of consoles from Sony and MS would more than fix the current problems for their own decline.
These two posts need to be edited into the OP of every UK sales topic from now onwards.People stating that the Wii U is doing better across Europe are mistaken... unless across Europe means France.
This is the percent of marketshare the Wii U had in each country last year:
France: 4.20%
UK: 3.08%
Germany: 3.08%
Netherlands: 2.24%
Belgium: 1.96%
Italy: 1.68%
Spain: 1.12%
In those terms the UK is the Wii U's joint second best market.
They need to show off the first party titles already. All new mario, zelda, metroid, smash bros., if they do this it will be much better for them.
Nope. It had the best exclusives last gen and a lot of great third party games that everyone ignored.
want to compare it with the other system that won their generation? like ps1,ps2,nes and snes?
Yes, it really is.
No it's not.
Yes it is.
Thought the DS did pretty well here.I've always wondered why the UK has traditionally always been Nintendo's weakest market.
First party will take them only so far, they might end up with another GC sort of success.
The Wii exploded because motion controls clicked with the casual crowd, that's about it. Its library of games is horrendous for a system that won a generation.
Nobody gives a shit about the gamepad thus far.
The majority of the UK likely already own a 360 and an iPad/tablet. There's no real point in the WiiU.
Thanks for your compelling argument.
Nope. It had the best exclusives last gen and a lot of great third party games that everyone ignored.
FPS games will have a huge graphics leap and are a genre where graphics really stand out. Nothing ages as badly as FPS do.Likewise the PS4 and 720, or is that automatically different? Let me guess, graphics?
Thanks for your compelling argument.
France only most likely
From article said:First let me show you the hit chart for the U.K. Out of all the major countries in which we operate, we perform least favorably in the U.K. market.
You are doing exactly the same thing. You just simply declared it be the best library of last gen. That is a laughable joke.
I know there are definitely some bright spots in the Wii library but taken as a whole? Come the fuck on. It's a wasteland. We all know this.
People stating that the Wii U is doing better across Europe are mistaken... unless across Europe means France.
This is the percent of marketshare the Wii U had in each country last year:
France: 4.20%
UK: 3.08%
Germany: 3.08%
Netherlands: 2.24%
Belgium: 1.96%
Italy: 1.68%
Spain: 1.12%
In those terms the UK is the Wii U's joint second best market.
The majority of the UK likely already own a 360 and an iPad/tablet. There's no real point in the WiiU.
Thought the DS did pretty well here.
But I blame the lack of Corrie games.
Yes, graphics + next-gen games from 3rd parties.Likewise the PS4 and 720, or is that automatically different? Let me guess, graphics?
When the possibility of FIFA not gracing the system is actually a real plausibility given Madden's current status* and the system is likely selling ~15K units/week across all of Europe right now (looking at typical drop offs post-Dec)...
No the situation isn't fine.
*Although I do think FIFA will end up on the platform.
So I did a few calculations with these figures.
Total sales Jan 2012 - 2778
Total sales Jan 2013 - 2111
Market decrease of 26%
Now let's look at the detail.
Nintendo vs non-Nintendo:
Total Nintendo platform sales in Jan 2012 - 999k
Total non-Nintendo platform sales in Jan 2012 - 1779k
Total Nintendo platform sales in Jan 2013 - 467k
Total non-Nintendo platform sales in Jan 2013 - 1644k
Nintendo YoY decrease - 53.3%
Non-Nintendo YoY decrease - 7.6%
Non-Nintendo YoY decrease consoles only - 3.5%
So, is it the UK market that's dead, or Nintendo that's dead in the UK?
I hope this myth that gaming is dead in the UK ceases to exist, it's Nintendo that are in serious decline. A new generation of consoles from Sony and MS would more than fix the current problems for their own decline.
Not really surprised.
No marketing + calling it "Wii U" = people think it's a tablet expansion or something