Isn't there a 'fool me once' thing here though? Aren't at least some core gamers going to pause before ordering Xbox one, thinking "hang on, what if this good stuff from MS is just a flash in the pan? What if they abandon me again? If I'm going to end up buying a PS4 in 2 years, why not save my money and just buy that now, and not bother with Xbox?"
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360 vs PS3 retail exclusives (+ restrictions) released US or EU 2010-2013
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Isn't there a 'fool me once' thing here though? Aren't at least some core gamers going to pause before ordering Xbox one, thinking "hang on, what if this good stuff from MS is just a flash in the pan? What if they abandon me again? If I'm going to end up buying a PS4 in 2 years, why not save my money and just buy that now, and not bother with Xbox?"
Sandbag too hard and you'll end up like fchamp
TheUnsunghero26
Member
Microsoft's 2007 first party compared to Sony's 2009 first party would be a pretty good list.
Hooflung128
Banned
Yes I did. And it was horrible. All of zero launch window games I really want to play or would buy the console for. I 'll wait for halo 5 and some other not yet revealed titles before I pull the trigger on an xbone. Also, sorry I don't buy the transitional period bullshit. What the hell were they doing with the kinetic money coffers for the last 2 years? Don't talk to me about games I might be able to play in 2 years IF I am lucky.
IncandescentPrecept
Banned
Halo 3, Forza 2, Project Gotham Racing 4 and Crackdown
vs.
Uncharted 2, Demon's Souls, Killzone 2, InFamous, R&C: A Crack in Time
Not much of a contest really.
Flame Lord
Member
Yeah, what the hell? Doesn't even have Gears 1 or Halo 3 in the picture.
6 green for Xbox, 24 for PS3. Don't know what the metacritic thresholds are for the colours, but lets just say those are 'good'.
And while we're posting our opinions, I've loved a lot of the exclusive PSN titles in the last couple of years.
RamzaIsCool
The Amiga Brotherhood
Was just gonna say this, wouldn't be that hard for the skilled people here to poop out a list that is more "fair". Imo any game that is excluded from either the 360 and PS3 should be on that list. It's a direct comparison between the consoles, what happens on other platforms shouldn't be taken into account. So games like State of Decay or Hotline Miami should be on that list!
TheUnsunghero26
Member
According to Wikipedia:
Games Published by MS in 2007
Blue Dragon
Crackdown
Forza Motorsport 2
Fuzion Frenzy 2
Halo 3
Mass Effect
Project Gotham Racing 4
Project Sylpheed
Scene It? Lights, Camera, Action
Shadowrun
Viva Piñata: Party Animals
vs.
Games Published by Sony in 2009
Buzz Quiz World
Demon's Souls
EyePet
Ghostbusters: The Video Game (PAL version co-published)
God of War Collection
InFamous
Killzone 2
MLB 09: The Show
Ratchet & Clank Future: A Crack in Time
Singstar Motown
Uncharted 2: Among Thieves
I don't understand why e.g. Deathsmiles is not on the 360 list. Though obviously that wouldn't change the overall point much, which is sound.
As someone who plays all multiplatform titles on PC, the relative size of the non-camera stacks pretty closely mirrors the relative size of my console libraries.
As someone who plays all multiplatform titles on PC, the relative size of the non-camera stacks pretty closely mirrors the relative size of my console libraries.
If you don't find any of the launch games interesting then I don't know what to tell you.
You can't really say that they're focusing on "kinect titles or a 'the duties' competitors", though.
It's easy.
1. Some of these games were 360 games to begin with. Since their release dates were close enough to the Xbone's launch, they were given Xbone versions as well.
2. 360 has a large userbase. Xbone will have a low userbase when its released. Making a niche title like Lococycle into an Xbone exclusive wouldn't really make sense.
3. They're giving support to their old platform
Building new teams? Aquiring exclusives?
They've mostly talked about the launch games, but we know that Project Spark is launching in early 2014 and Halo in late 2014. Crimson Dragon and D4 is probably launching in 2014 as well.
Quantum Break, Below and Sunset Overdrive might or might not make it, but I don't expect to see Black Tusk's game in 2014.
Bumblebeetuna
Member
It looks bad for 360 but as someone who owns both consoles, imho it's a wash. Sony has a ton more games but a majority of them are simply.. there. Almost nothing stands out as amazing, or really killer app games to me. MS on the other hand started focusing more on Kinect and snatching up XBLA games. Sony went more for retail. I mean, how many of those PS3 games would have worked a lot better as PSN titles? Starhawk, MAG, Twisted Metal, just off the top of my head there are a few.
MS bought an IP like State of Decay and released it on XBLA. Sony would have seen that game and the amount of content and put it at retail for a much higher price. I like the approach of both companies. MS has a couple gems every now and again and tons of amazing XBLA stuff. Sony has a gem every now and again, some other good retail titles, and a decent PSN portfolio.
MS bought an IP like State of Decay and released it on XBLA. Sony would have seen that game and the amount of content and put it at retail for a much higher price. I like the approach of both companies. MS has a couple gems every now and again and tons of amazing XBLA stuff. Sony has a gem every now and again, some other good retail titles, and a decent PSN portfolio.
What exclusive 360 retail games are coming out by end of 2013?
IncandescentPrecept
Banned
Well, Mass Effect and Shadowrun are also on PC though,
LightofRohan
Member
Why are people comparing the vita to PC? It is more like a companion to the PS3 not a full platform that is competing against it. You can have a better experience on PC and it is a platform itself.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Until Dawn is a MOVE title and lots of those other PS3 titles use MOVE too such as KZ, Infamous, Resistance and LBP. The big difference is that people were conned into believing Kinect could be used for hardcore games and MOVE CAN be used for hardcore games.
JohnnySasaki86
Member
I bet Sony would still win. People forget how many first party exclusives they had then.
Uncharted
Uncharted2
Killzone 2
Infamous
R: FoM
Resistance 2
Ratchet and Clank ToD
Ratchet and Clank ACiT
Motorstorm
Motorstorm PR
MGS4
Lair(lol yes it counts)
GoW3(or was that 2010?)
Oops forgot a few.
Wipeout HD
Folklore
Heavenly Sword
LittleBugPlanet(can't believe I forgot this!)
Anyways I'm probably missing some, but these were all big AAA titles, all first or 2nd party except MGS4. I'd be surprised of MS had more than 10.
Edit: wow 2009 was really the year of PS3. Uncharted 2, Killzone 2, Infamous, Demon Souls and Ratchet ACiT(my fav ratchet game out of all of them) all came in 2009. Every single one was excellent and did very well for Sony(maybe not ACiT sales wise as much as the others).
Dragon1893
Member
Yup, 2009 was the strongest year, though this one seems to be even better.
Even early in the PS3's lifecycle there were a ton of exclusives like Folklore, Heavenly Sword, Uncharted, MGS4, Valkyria Chronicles, Wipeout HD, Resistance, Motorstorm, etc...
DEM FCHAMP TEARS
PhantomOfTheKnight
Member
TheUnsunghero26
Member
They had 11 First/Second party games in 2007.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
If you look at the upcoming exclusives for both consoles whats left for this year its even more apparent:
PS3:
Beyond Two Souls
Disgaea D2
Dragons Crown
GT6
Puppeteer
Rain
Tales of Xillia
Kingdom Hearts 1.5 HD Remix
FFX/X-2 HD
Ratchet and Clank Nexus
The Guided Fate Paradox
The Witch and Hundred Knights
Until Dawn
360:
Fable 3 remake
-____- someone help me with the 360 list cause I can't think straight and my google fu is piss poor it seems.
PS3:
Beyond Two Souls
Disgaea D2
Dragons Crown
GT6
Puppeteer
Rain
Tales of Xillia
Kingdom Hearts 1.5 HD Remix
FFX/X-2 HD
Ratchet and Clank Nexus
The Guided Fate Paradox
The Witch and Hundred Knights
Until Dawn
360:
Fable 3 remake
-____- someone help me with the 360 list cause I can't think straight and my google fu is piss poor it seems.
scar tissue
Banned
In terms of games I enjoy, both consoles were pretty equal. I like almost every 360 exclusive apart from Forza, but on PS3 I mainly enjoy God of War, Naughty Dog games and InFamous.
Don't give much of a fuck about stuff like LBP or Twisted Metal.
Come to think of it, somewhere around 3/4th of the games I play are multiplat anyway.
Still getting a PS4 though, I don't want an always-on camera in my living room where the NSA can get unlimited access.
Don't give much of a fuck about stuff like LBP or Twisted Metal.
Come to think of it, somewhere around 3/4th of the games I play are multiplat anyway.
Still getting a PS4 though, I don't want an always-on camera in my living room where the NSA can get unlimited access.
Umm yes it should? There are xbox exclusive titles on xbla, and there is no point distinguishing between retail and digital releases, they are all games in the end. Don't be stupid.
Infernal Monkey
Member
Exclusive RETAIL games. It's right there at the top of the massive image. The one this entire thread is about. Retail.
I NEED SCISSORS
Banned
That would probably tip the balance even further in PS3's favor. It got a lot of exclusive niche games in the early days, while a lot of 360's exclusives ended up being timed as the years went on.
This alludes to an interesting point:
All these "list wars" comparisons are largely irrelevant in the real world. In my opinion, the most important factor is "which console has the most exclusives that are the most appealing to me?", and the answer to that varies from person to person. Someone who loves shoot'em ups is going to see the 360 as being more appealing than the PS3 or Wii, someone who loves JRPGS is going to see the PS3 as more appealing than the Wii or 360, someone who loves platformers is going to see the Wii as more appealing than the 360 or PS3.
You can tell what a person's tastes are by looking at the type of list they compile in order to justify their preference, and seeing which games they include and exclude. In my case, I enjoy a wide variety of games in a wide variety of genres, so I see value in owning every system. Of course, I prefer some genres more than others, and because of that, I have a hard time viewing the 360 as lacking in comparison to the PS3. Not everyone is going to see it that way, and that's understandable.
As Stump already pointed out the comparison is total BS and clearly the one posted this either he/she doesn't have a 360 or he/she doesn't have a clue about the 360 line-up for the last 3 years which results in titles missing from the 360 side, no XBLA/PSN releases and console exclusives are included on the PS3 that are also on Vita while not on the 360 which are also on the PC.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
That is not what stump said.
Cool, I thought 'List Wars' were frowned upon on GAF.
The differences between the two consoles in 'skewed' list is simple.
1. The actual age/year of the 360 and the PS3 during those years.
Xbox 360 (Year 6-8) vs. PS3 - (Year 5-7)
The 360 was out a year longer and you can easily see where MS put it's big money for it's exclusives in the 4th quarter of 2012 and into Xbox ONE in 2013. Sony went light with the big exclusives in 2012 and went big for year 7, just like MS did.
2. You have to pretend that Console exclusive games don't exist in ANY of these conversation to omit a huge part of the 360 games.
The Console exclusive numbers are:
Xbox 360: 79 console exclusives and PS3: 8 console exclusives.
For purposely restrictive lists like these, there are 70+ games (ie. Alan Wake) that are supposedly vaporware and Xbox 360 gamers never played on the console
Either way the Wikipedia listing which is a relevant as this calls it
XBOX 360: There are currently 959 games (multiplatform: 757; exclusive: 123; console exclusive: 79) on this list as of June 6, 2013.
PS3: There are currently 772 games (multiplatform: 621; exclusive: 143; console exclusive: 8) and 15 cancelled games on this list as of January 14, 2013.
It's no-brainer that both companies went different routes to arrive at the successes that beach of the consoles have achieved. This is also evident when you see games like Titanfall for Xbox ONE/Xbox 360 which like Mass Effect this gen, will end up 'not existing' because they are on PC or timed.
The differences between the two consoles in 'skewed' list is simple.
1. The actual age/year of the 360 and the PS3 during those years.
Xbox 360 (Year 6-8) vs. PS3 - (Year 5-7)
The 360 was out a year longer and you can easily see where MS put it's big money for it's exclusives in the 4th quarter of 2012 and into Xbox ONE in 2013. Sony went light with the big exclusives in 2012 and went big for year 7, just like MS did.
2. You have to pretend that Console exclusive games don't exist in ANY of these conversation to omit a huge part of the 360 games.
The Console exclusive numbers are:
Xbox 360: 79 console exclusives and PS3: 8 console exclusives.
For purposely restrictive lists like these, there are 70+ games (ie. Alan Wake) that are supposedly vaporware and Xbox 360 gamers never played on the console
Either way the Wikipedia listing which is a relevant as this calls it
XBOX 360: There are currently 959 games (multiplatform: 757; exclusive: 123; console exclusive: 79) on this list as of June 6, 2013.
PS3: There are currently 772 games (multiplatform: 621; exclusive: 143; console exclusive: 8) and 15 cancelled games on this list as of January 14, 2013.
It's no-brainer that both companies went different routes to arrive at the successes that beach of the consoles have achieved. This is also evident when you see games like Titanfall for Xbox ONE/Xbox 360 which like Mass Effect this gen, will end up 'not existing' because they are on PC or timed.
They're cross buy though (except MLB?), you'd have to buy PC vesions of Xbox games seperately.
Not sure wether they should be counted or not, but I can see why one would be counted and not the other.
CosmicGroinPull
Member
79 console exclusives for 360? XD Was that through some "Microsoft Math"? You know, the same way they derived Xbone's gflops figure?
Katana_Strikes
Member
You're missing another digit off there.
John Caboose
Member
I don't really get why the games with PC versions get removed from any "exclusives" conversation like this one. It might be a more prominent phenomena on an enthusiast forum like GAF but far from all Xbox/PlayStation owners also play these kinds of games on PC. I think discussing console-exclusives is far more interesting than just wishing away most of the games because they happen to have a PC version.
My personal list out of the games in the OP would be cut down to about 5 games each. If I'm not interested in a game it won't help "win me over" or whatever just because it exists as an entry in a list.
Disclaimer: I use Xbox as my primary system, PC as secondary and PS3 as exclusives only.
My personal list out of the games in the OP would be cut down to about 5 games each. If I'm not interested in a game it won't help "win me over" or whatever just because it exists as an entry in a list.
Disclaimer: I use Xbox as my primary system, PC as secondary and PS3 as exclusives only.
Yes. Per Wiki
Nah I'm not.
"Exclusive" indicates whether the PS3 is the only platform on which the game is available. This does not include handheld game consoles or mobile phones which generally run a completely different version of the game under the same name.
A value of "Console" for exclusivity means that, while a title may be available as an arcade game or on a PC using Microsoft Windows, Unix/Linux, or Mac OS X, it is not available on any other video game console in its native version. The term "Multi-platform" means that the game has appeared on multiple consoles.
Nope. But I do think it's believable that there are 143 games that are 'only available on the PS3 and 123 games that are only on the 360.
'Console exclusives' are clearly a different story.
xenorevlis
Member
Do you really believe there are only 8 games that are only available on PS3?
Except this isn't really true. I see lots of very good games there.
Katana_Strikes
Member
Kenshin001
Member
Which Wikipedia page are you talking about?
There are 3 Uncharteds, 3 Resistance games, 3 Motorstorms. That's already 9 exclusive titles.
Well it's wrong, there are nearly that amount out this year if not more.
So after your little explanation do you really believe the information source is correct in that PS3 has 8 console exclusives?
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