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360 vs PS3 retail exclusives (+ restrictions) released US or EU 2010-2013

The PlayStation ecosystem might have way more exclusives, but the majority of them aren't blockbuster hits. Nobody ever talks about the PS3 games. TLOU, Ni no Kuni, Uncharted, and a select few actually get talked about in general conversation.

How do you know what games get brought up in general conversation? What 360 exclusives games out right now get brought up in general conversation? And by general conversation do you include disappointments diatribes like halo 4 multiplayer and gears of war judement's existence? What do you classify as a blockbuster? Also what is really classified as general conversation? Forum posts about dude bro games vs forum posts about niche games like hyper dimension neptunia and disgaea?
 

RoadHazard

Gold Member
As someone who would put the 360 and PS3 about even with each other, I think the biggest issue with using that as your argument is that you're ignoring the first few years of this generation. Games released from 2005-2009 don't just magically disappear. My point being, even if you played your PS3 more than your 360 these past few years, you can't deny the 360's great support it had earlier this gen, especially in the really early days.

While this is true, what a list like this can hint at is whether or not your console of choice this fall will continue getting great exclusives and strong 1st party support throughout its life. My bet is the PS4 will. Not quite so confident about the XBO.
 

Black_Stride

do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
I stepped into this gen very late.. January 2011..

If I had choosen 360 as people around me suggested I would be now devastated by this
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This is really the reason I can't see myself considering the One.. to see it being forgotten again by MS like this.

You really wanted to play MLB The Show huh?

P.S
I believe, the PS3 got some damn good exclusives towards the end.
But this picture exaggerates shit.

Until Dawn is a Move game isnt it.
Neptunia......really, neptunia
Trinity Souls?
Time and Eternity?
Mugen Souls?

I dont mean to change the topic somewhat or Zenophobic, but if we bring in "bad" japanese games then the 360 should be allowed to list all the shumps as well.

But i guess for the sake of the topic, sure the PS3 got alot more exclusives.
 

FINALBOSS

Banned
While this is true, what a list like this can hint at is whether or not your console of choice this fall will continue getting great exclusives and 1st party support throughout its life. My bet is the PS4 will. Not quite so confident about the XBO.

This is exactly how I put the graphic in context.

You really wanted to play MLB The Show huh?

P.S
I believe, the PS3 got some damn good exclusives towards the end.
But this picture exaggerates shit.

Until Dawn is a Move game isnt it.
Neptunia......really, neptunia
Trinity Souls?
Time and Eternity?
Mugen Souls?

I dont mean to change the topic somewhat or Zenophobic, but if we bring in "bad" japanese games then the 360 should be allowed to list all the shumps as well.

But i guess for the sake of the topic, sure the PS3 got alot more exclusives.


Hence why on the previous page to look at the games in green boxes if this is your rationale.
 

impact

Banned
You really wanted to play MLB The Show huh?

P.S
I believe, the PS3 got some damn good exclusives towards the end.
But this picture exaggerates shit.

Until Dawn is a Move game isnt it.
Neptunia......really, neptunia
Trinity Souls?
Time and Eternity?
Mugen Souls?

I dont mean to change the topic somewhat or Zenophobic, but if we bring in "bad" japanese games then the 360 should be allowed to list all the shumps as well.

But i guess for the sake of the topic, sure the PS3 got alot more exclusives.

I like how you have an issue with weeaboo RPGs that got localized but not the mounds of Kinect shitware bloating the 360 exclusives list. Yes, I'm sure THE BIGGEST LOSER KINECT, KINECT JOY RIDE, LEGO STAR WARS and so on are excellent titles. I'm just sure of it!

e: lol almost forgot about Hulk Hogans Main Even KINECT. It's probably my GOTG.
 

Yawnier

Banned
You really wanted to play MLB The Show huh?

P.S
I believe, the PS3 got some damn good exclusives towards the end.
But this picture exaggerates shit.

Until Dawn is a Move game isnt it.
Neptunia......really, neptunia
Trinity Souls?
Time and Eternity?
Mugen Souls?

I dont mean to change the topic somewhat or Zenophobic, but if we bring in "bad" japanese games then the 360 should be allowed to list all the shumps as well.

But i guess for the sake of the topic, sure the PS3 got alot more exclusives.

If you really want to go there in terms of "bad" games, the 360 simply isn't immune in the terms that there are no bad exclusive games on that console that are present there in that list. You are going to get poorly made exclusive games on every console that is decently supported, this shouldn't be shocking news to anybody.

I see quite a bit of red and yellow borders on both sides, considerably more red on the 360 side too.
 

mujun

Member
Ya, beats me.

I didn't submit the picture for scientific journal review to appease mujun.

I thought I suggested that it would be better to post a list that was at least accurate so as to bring about debate that got straight to the heart of the matter rather than cluttering up the thread with posts about "XBLA this..." and "[insert game name], really?"

Keep making fun of a reasonable suggestion, though.

Just to be clear as you seem to be missing the point. I know the PS3 has considerably more exclusives (and in my own subjective opinion, the better quality ones).
 
I like how you have an issue with weeaboo RPGs that got localized but not the mounds of Kinect shitware bloating the 360 exclusives list. Yes, I'm sure THE BIGGEST LOSER KINECT, KINECT JOY RIDE, LEGO STAR WARS and so on are excellent titles. I'm just sure of it!

Exactly.

Also I bought all those jrpgs and have the other jrpgs on preorder this year. Still don't have a kinect and probably never will unless I start dating a dance central girl.
 

The Lamp

Member
Can't fault MS for doing what it did with Xbox 360. They got the hardcore to jump in early with lots of exclusives (like me), then slowed down exclusives to just Halo, Gears, Forza while they went after the Kinect pot of gold. Half way through this gen I switched to PS3 when Sony was firing exclusive after exclusive, no regrets. MS seems to be doing the same thing with Xbox One, lets see if they can maintain a strong stable of exclusive software for the entirety of that console's life. With Sony, there is no worry, you know they will stay committed.

They were mostly just temporary third party exclusives anyway. It's not like Sony's first party output.
 

AOC83

Banned
That´s the reason Microsoft could leave the console business tomorrow and absolutely nothing of value would be lost. What a disgrace to gaming their first party efforts have become, it´s unbelievable.

Compare that to the company they replaced in the console business (Sega) and the huge amount of games they pumped out back in the day and it gets even more pathetic.
 
If you want to make a list of pure exclusives... its kind of correct (but only kind of, still flawed). And why only from those years and not the whole gen?

But when you ask yourself: What can I play in a 360 and not on a Ps3 / What can I on a PS3 and not on a 360? (including everything) , the big picture is that 360 is not bad, you have games like Witcher 2, Alan Wake, Fable 3, Divitiny 2 and all the great XBLA.

So, I think its quite biased view.

Both are great consoles and this gen is about multiplatform games, both consoles share about 90% of the games, so thats why I find so pointless to pick one and try to prove that the other is a bad machine, it just stupid.
 

Dragon

Banned
This thread just reminds me why PC + Nintendo combo is the best. The list is bare on both sides.

Nintendo for home consoles over the past few years has been poor to say the least. None of the Sony first party console developers release on PC either so not sure I get what you're trying to say.
 

farisr

Member
My personal representations of games of interest:

2005-2008:

360: ------------------------------------------------------------
PS3: -----------------

2008-2010:

360: -----------------------------------------------------
PS3: --------------------------------------------------------

2011-2013:

360: -----------
PS3: ---------------------------------------------------------------

It's because of these last few years that I've lost all faith in microsoft and why the drm reversal did not win me back. Halo multiplayer taking a downturn starting with Reach didn't help much either. Used to be Halo could account for nearly half of the longest bar above due to how much I loved the whole game.
 

stryke

Member
If you want to make a list of pure exclusives... its kind of correct (but only kind of, still flawed). And why only from those years and not the whole gen?

From what I gather, the point of the infographic isn't so much the amount of exclusives in comparison to one another, but rather a demonstration of a skewed utilisation of resources after the success of the Kinect and subtly puts forward the question - is this trend going to continue now that every X1 has a Kinect?
 

nib95

Banned
If you want to make a list of pure exclusives... its kind of correct (but only kind of, still flawed). And why only from those years and not the whole gen?

But when you ask yourself: What can I play in a 360 and not on a Ps3 / What can I on a PS3 and not on a 360? (including everything) , the big picture is that 360 is not bad, you have games like Witcher 2, Alan Wake, Fable 3, Divitiny 2 and all the great XBLA.

So, I think its quite biased view.

Both are great consoles and this gen is about multiplatform games, both consoles share about 90% of the games, so thats why I find so pointless to pick one and try to prove that the other is a bad machine, it just stupid.

I think you indirectly brought up an important point. I feel the 360 is a far more rewarding system if you don't also have a half decent PC, since just as an example, all of the additional games you listed are on the PC too.
 
You really wanted to play MLB The Show huh?

P.S
I believe, the PS3 got some damn good exclusives towards the end.
But this picture exaggerates shit.

Until Dawn is a Move game isnt it.
Neptunia......really, neptunia
Trinity Souls?
Time and Eternity?
Mugen Souls?

I dont mean to change the topic somewhat or Zenophobic, but if we bring in "bad" japanese games then the 360 should be allowed to list all the shumps as well.

But i guess for the sake of the topic, sure the PS3 got alot more exclusives.

Considering this comparison seems to be focused on American releases only, even if you add the 360 shoot 'em ups, you'd still only have Akai Katana and DeathSmiles.
 

madmackem

Member
My personal representations of games of interest:

2005-2008:

360: ------------------------------------------------------------
PS3: -----------------

2008-2010:

360: -----------------------------------------------------
PS3: --------------------------------------------------------

2011-2013:

360: -----------
PS3: ---------------------------------------------------------------

It's because of these last few years that I've lost all faith in microsoft and why the drm reversal did not win me back. Halo multiplayer taking a downturn starting with Reach didn't help much either. Used to be Halo could account for nearly half of the longest bar above due to how much I loved the whole game.

That about sums it up for me too, if i was an xbox only gamer id be bored as hell right now. Ms did an og xbox on us again and let 360 die on the vine and cut support for it in its last few years it feels. I cant think of a real first party boxed game im excited for or have been for the past few months. Is there any left to come out?.
 

FINALBOSS

Banned
If you want to make a list of pure exclusives... its kind of correct (but only kind of, still flawed). And why only from those years and not the whole gen?

But when you ask yourself: What can I play in a 360 and not on a Ps3 / What can I on a PS3 and not on a 360? (including everything) , the big picture is that 360 is not bad, you have games like Witcher 2, Alan Wake, Fable 3, Divitiny 2 and all the great XBLA.

So, I think its quite biased view.

Both are great consoles and this gen is about multiplatform games, both consoles share about 90% of the games, so thats why I find so pointless to pick one and try to prove that the other is a bad machine, it just stupid.

In my OP the whole point the user on reddit even posted it was as an example going into the future with XBONE and PS4 and why he was getting PS4.
 

Leflus

Member
If you want to make a list of pure exclusives... its kind of correct (but only kind of, still flawed). And why only from those years and not the whole gen?

But when you ask yourself: What can I play in a 360 and not on a Ps3 / What can I on a PS3 and not on a 360? (including everything) , the big picture is that 360 is not bad, you have games like Witcher 2, Alan Wake, Fable 3, Divitiny 2 and all the great XBLA.

So, I think its quite biased view.

Both are great consoles and this gen is about multiplatform games, both consoles share about 90% of the games, so thats why I find so pointless to pick one and try to prove that the other is a bad machine, it just stupid.
Yup. List includes PS3/Vita games. Doesn't include 360/PC or 360/Xbox One games.

There's also the fact that MS is focusing more on digital games than Sony is. Twisted Pixel, Pressplay and Team Dakota, three of MS' first party studios, will release digital games on Xbox 360 over the course of the next year.

That being said... 2010-2013 has been very good for the PS3.

The 360 has an ok lineup in 2013, but it pales in comparison to what the PS3 is offering this year.
 
From what I gather, the point of the infographic isn't so much the amount of exclusives in comparison to one another, but rather a demonstration of a skewed utilisation of resources after the success of the Kinect and subtly puts forward the question - is this trend going to continue now that every X1 has a Kinect?

Because they already had a good user base in controller games, because they needed to make Kinect a succes, it was a big bet.
I can tell you that the focus is going to be less on Kinect because both MS and third party realised that Kinect was just like Wii, lots of hardware sales but not so much on the software department, it just a few tittles like Dance Central are the ones that actually sold well.

The number of games for kinect and "better with kinect" have greatly reduced, games like Ryse and Crimson Dragon were converted to controller for the same reason.


I think you indirectly brought up an important point. I feel the 360 is a far more rewarding system if you don't also have a half decent PC, since just as an example, all of the additional games you listed are on the PC too.

Both consoles are more rewarding if you dont have good PC, but if you want to take a deep carefull look comparing both consoles I think my question is a much better one.

In my OP the whole point the user on reddit even posted it was as an example going into the future with XBONE and PS4 and why he was getting PS4.

Ok, and im not pointing at you, im pointing at the biased picture, whoever made it.
 

beast786

Member
The point of picture is about showing clear shift in priority since release of kinect. I am not sure why are people arguing about couple of titles here and there and XBLA etc.

its clear that this exact focus is now passed on to XB1 [good or bad depending in your interest in kinect] adding kinect as mandatory is just a natural progression .
 

coma1138

Banned
The point of picture is about showing clear shift in priority since release of kinect. I am not sure why are people arguing about couple of titles here and there and XBLA etc.

its clear that this exact focus is now passed on to XB1 [good or bad depending in your interest in kinect] adding kinect as mandatory is just a natural progression .
Or it shows that MS had a success with their motion device and released a bunch of games for it and Sony didn't so they didn't release a bunch of games for it. Not really sure how that constitutes a "shift." And it's clear that Kinect "focus" hasn't passed onto the X1, considering there haven't been a ton of Kinect games announced so far and they even changed 2 of their games to be controller based instead.

And people are bringing up the XBLA stuff because the distinction between retail and downloadable games is pretty dumb at this point, and I really can't imagine anyone here disagreeing with that, and MS has lead the way with downloadable games this entire generation and have released a ton of amazing XBLA titles, so to conveniently just ignore them on a list is stupid
 
I find it amusing when people say "yeah its available on handheld X or PC but its still a console exclusive!" Who gives a shit? If I can play the game in some other legal and official form that isn't tied to a console then it is not exclusive.
The list contains some of the highest rated games this generation!

be reasonable man.

When 95% of the "highest rated games this generation" are also found on other platforms, it really drives the point home.
 

Cat Party

Member
The point of picture is about showing clear shift in priority since release of kinect. I am not sure why are people arguing about couple of titles here and there and XBLA etc.

its clear that this exact focus is now passed on to XB1 [good or bad depending in your interest in kinect] adding kinect as mandatory is just a natural progression .

How many of those Kinect titles are developed or published by MS?
 
Yup. List includes PS3/Vita games. Doesn't include 360/PC or 360/Xbox One games.

There's also the fact that MS is focusing more on digital games than Sony is. Twisted Pixel, Pressplay and Team Dakota, three of MS' first party studios, will release digital games on Xbox 360 over the course of the next year.

That being said... 2010-2013 has been very good for the PS3.

The 360 has an ok lineup in 2013, but it pales in comparison to what the PS3 is offering this year.

So what you are saying is that I don't need to buy an Xbox One because all the ms indie-but-not studios are making their games on the 360 as well... Which it seems they are. All the while Microsoft sits on battletoads, mechassault, conker, blinx, kameo, jet force jemini, blood wake, crackdown, freelancer and crimson skies IP doing fuck all. If it can't be kinect title or a 'the duties' competitor than why bother right? Screw us who fell in love with some original Xbox and early 360 titles.

But hey, there is a new killer instinct.
 

Krakn3Dfx

Member
Or it shows that MS had a success with their motion device and released a bunch of games for it and Sony didn't so they didn't release a bunch of games for it. Not really sure how that constitutes a "shift." And it's clear that Kinect "focus" hasn't passed onto the X1, considering there haven't been a ton of Kinect games announced so far and they even changed 2 of their games to be controller based instead.

And people are bringing up the XBLA stuff because the distinction between retail and downloadable games is pretty dumb at this point, and I really can't imagine anyone here disagreeing with that, and MS has lead the way with downloadable games this entire generation and have released a ton of amazing XBLA titles, so to conveniently just ignore them on a list is stupid

It ignored both XBLA and PSN equally, you seem to be under the incorrect assumption that PSN doesn't have a boatload of great games on it.
 

beast786

Member
Or it shows that MS had a success with their motion device and released a bunch of games for it and Sony didn't so they didn't release a bunch of games for it. Not really sure how that constitutes a "shift." And it's clear that Kinect "focus" hasn't passed onto the X1, considering there haven't been a ton of Kinect games announced so far and they even changed 2 of their games to be controller based instead.

And people are bringing up the XBLA stuff because the distinction between retail and downloadable games is pretty dumb at this point, and I really can't imagine anyone here disagreeing with that, and MS has lead the way with downloadable games this entire generation and have released a ton of amazing XBLA titles, so to conveniently just ignore them on a list is stupid

Did I say why the shift? it's obvious MS saw success in kinect and now implementing it on next GEN. That is the most obvious and I can't imagine needed to be said.

How many 60$ XBLA games are there? so yes, there is an obvious distinction between the retail and XBLA. regardless that has absolutely nothing to do with the major point. Unless you can show since 2010 XBLA titles made up in quantity and quality of the less release of retail. the basic point regardless if you like kinect or not is MS focused shifted to kinect more than Sony on move.

Seeing that exact trend with natural progression over next gen.
 
So games like Witcher 2, Trials 2, MineCraft, Fez, State of Decay, and Mark of the Ninja don't count because reasons. Real people who actually play these consoles don't see it this way. Minecraft XBLA has outsold every title on both sides. #truthfact

Did I say why the shift? it's obvious MS saw success in kinect and now implementing it on next GEN. That is the most obvious and I can't imagine needed to be said.

How many 60$ XBLA games are there? so yes, there is an obvious distinction between the retail and XBLA. regardless that has absolutely nothing to do with the major point. Unless you can show since 2010 XBLA titles made up in quantity and quality of the less release of retail. the basic point regardless if you like kinect or not is MS focused shifted to kinect more than Sony on move.

Seeing that exact trend with natural progression over next gen.

Actually, metacritic does this every year. MS literally publishes just as many games as Sony, with an equal or better average meta-score, every year.
 

coma1138

Banned
It ignored both XBLA and PSN equally, you seem to be under the incorrect assumption that PSN doesn't have a boatload of great games on it.
I'm not saying there's not good games on it, but you're not being honest if you're going to claim the quantity or the quality comes close to matching XBLA. Sony's vision for downloadable games was way behind (i.e. them being lazy and not including Trophies for their PS1 classics), and they're just now catching up.


Did I say why the shift? it's obvious MS saw success in kinect and now implementing it on next GEN. That is the most obvious and I can't imagine needed to be said.
Except for the fact that you're wrong. Again, if MS is planning to "continue" some drastic shift towards Kinect, why did they make Ryse and CD controller based?

How many 60$ XBLA games are there? so yes, there is an obvious distinction between the retail and XBLA. regardless that has absolutely nothing to do with the major point. Unless you can show since 2010 XBLA titles made up in quantity and quality of the less release of retail. the basic point regardless if you like kinect or not is MS focused shifted to kinect more than Sony on move.
What does the price have to do with anything? Should Lego games be considered in a separate category since they launch at $50? And yeah, there's been a lot of really great games on the platform since 2010.
 
Or it shows that MS had a success with their motion device and released a bunch of games for it and Sony didn't so they didn't release a bunch of games for it. Not really sure how that constitutes a "shift." And it's clear that Kinect "focus" hasn't passed onto the X1, considering there haven't been a ton of Kinect games announced so far and they even changed 2 of their games to be controller based instead.

And people are bringing up the XBLA stuff because the distinction between retail and downloadable games is pretty dumb at this point, and I really can't imagine anyone here disagreeing with that, and MS has lead the way with downloadable games this entire generation and have released a ton of amazing XBLA titles, so to conveniently just ignore them on a list is stupid

Microsoft led the way in indie games until they killed off their xna dev tools support and started putting their fingers in their ears when indies asked them for self publishing and greater visibility. Since then psn has had a wealth of great games. Also, financial success in kinetic isn't something I'd brag about. The move actually works, especially in shooters like socom 4 and re5 gold. Why it didn't catch on is probably a matter of geographical demand vs games it worked for not being hot sellers where move worked best. Kinect has sold 24 million or so units and the only good games on it are dance games, gun stringer and zumba. Casuals... Who probably won't see value in the new Xbox at all. Ask wii u how that is working out for them.
 

VanWinkle

Member
And people are bringing up the XBLA stuff because the distinction between retail and downloadable games is pretty dumb at this point, and I really can't imagine anyone here disagreeing with that, and MS has lead the way with downloadable games this entire generation and have released a ton of amazing XBLA titles, so to conveniently just ignore them on a list is stupid

And yet again you conveniently ignore that PSN exists and has many FANTASTIC exclusives. MS may have indeed started this in the console space, but I'm sure you would see a fairly similar number of high-quality digital exclusives from either side if they were added into this 2010-2013 list.
 

Sorc3r3r

Member
Sony has built a great momentum going into the next geneneration.
The Last of Us as bridge game it has been a wise move: the awareness towards the playstation brand will greatly benefit from it.
 

coma1138

Banned
Microsoft led the way in indie games until
The "until" part would mean a little more if SoD wasn't about to pass the 1m sold mark.

And yet again you conveniently ignore that PSN exists and has many FANTASTIC exclusives. MS may have indeed started this in the console space, but I'm sure you would see a fairly similar number of high-quality digital exclusives from either side if they were added into this 2010-2013 list.
So make the chart. See who "wins."
 
Is there a reason this graphic was limited to 2010-2013 and not the entire consoles' lifespans?

It is an attempt to prove Sony has treated the core gamer with more attention than Microsoft has and I assume that going into next gen these may possibly be warning signs to early adopters of the xbone later on.
 

Leflus

Member
So what you are saying is that I don't need to buy an Xbox One because all the ms indie-but-not studios are making their games on the 360 as well... Which it seems they are. All the while Microsoft sits on battletoads, mechassault, conker, blinx, kameo, jet force jemini, blood wake, crackdown, freelancer and crimson skies IP doing fuck all. If it can't be kinect title or a 'the duties' competitor than why bother right? Screw us who fell in love with some original Xbox and early 360 titles.

But hey, there is a new killer instinct.
It's a transition period. It makes sense to release some of their games on both platforms. Personally, I'm hoping that Fable Anniversary and Max: Curse of Brotherhood gets Xbone versions as well.

Doesn't mean that there won't be interesting non-kinect exclusives for the Xbone though. Did you even watch MS' E3 press conference?
 
The "until" part would mean a little more if SoD wasn't about to pass the 1m sold mark.


So make the chart. See who "wins."

It's nice for xbla to have recently 2 phenom games (sod and minecraft). While they continue to sell on Xbox as well as pc, when they get sod pc hopefully done in time to not compete with dayz retail, the psn will keep plugging a long with the cross platform indie titles, the ps1 classics, the ps2 classics, the xbla refugees like strangers wrath and all the other content being sold or giving value to plus accounts. But it's nice that at least two exclusive companies are making money with Microsoft with little fear to not be bought out by ms or tossed to the wayside.

2 companies. 2.
 
Until Dawn is out? In fact, why are there a number of games listed under PS3 that aren't even out yet and the 360 list is seemingly missing a few upcoming titles too...
 
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