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[Tabris]

I don't see the issue, the screens still look good. Maybe a little bit rougher, but may just be image compression issues?

The textures and lighting look worse..... Does this mean it's getting a PS3 release?

You must not have played Oblivion PS3 eh?

 

[Blackface]

yeah.. same, these look great. I can't wait.

It looks like an Xbox Game. The textures on the mountains, walls and player are all very low resolution. They are not using HDR lighting or any type of aliasing. It looks last gen except it can fit more things on the screen at once. Could be the fact that the screens were taken when it wasn't running at HD and then compressed wrong. Who knows.

 

[Borys]

Amazing downgrade in textures and overall quality.

I hope the 2008 PC version looks like those doctored screens from before. I don't see why it shouldn't?

 

[Karma Kramer]

Maybe Bioware is trying to dissapoint us, so when they release the game we will be that much more amazed?!

... eh I got nothing

 

[buckfutter]

Even GeoW had tons of bullshots released for it. You won't know exactly how good Mass Effect looks until it's in your machine.

Or until we get some hi-def video HINT BIOWARE HINT.

 

[Deepblue]

Amazing downgrade in textures and overall quality.

I hope the 2008 PC version looks like those doctored screens from before. I don't see why it shouldn't?

*sigh*

Turn up the contrast on these shots. They are washed out with crappy compression.

THE GAME LOOKS AS GOOD AS THE "DOCTORED" SCREENS.

I HAVE SEEN IT.

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[Proelite]

It looks like an Xbox Game. The textures on the mountains, walls and player are all very low rise. The are not using HDR lighting or any type of softshadowing. It looks lass gen except it can fit more things on the screen at once.

I completely agree, but Mass Effect doesn't look like this.

 

[Agent Icebeezy]

Given that various people on this website have seen this running not even a month ago, I'm inclined to believe that this is the work of bad compression and shitty captures. If I'm correct in my assessment, then marketing and PR needs their asses kicked for this.

 

[akachan ningen]

Everything looks fine except the textures on the dude's arm/shoulder/back. They look a little low poly too. Does my post have more credibility if I sigh? Ok, here goes, *sigh*

 

[Tabris]

You know what's also possible? Maybe they had to compress the textures to fit on DVD and that's the issue? I mean think about this game, it must be MASSIVE with all the different audio clips (all the different conversation paths).

If you think about it, it totally makes sense as they're launching soon and probabaly needed to change filesizes/compression to get it under 9GB.

 

[Borys]

*sigh*

Turn up the contrast on these shots. They are washed out with crappy compression.

THE GAME LOOKS AS GOOD AS THE "DOCTORED" SCREENS.

I HAVE SEEN IT.

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The game will be fine, delicious even (it's Bioware for Christ sake, even their shit is better than everything else!) but you have to have some SERIOUS eye damage to not notice the lower-res textures on EVERYTHING in these new shots.

And as far as I can tell texture resolution has nothing to do with JPEG compression. You can notice JPEG comp. on edges and small objects.

 

[Thunderbear]

*sigh*

Turn up the contrast on these shots. They are washed out with crappy compression.

THE GAME LOOKS AS GOOD AS THE "DOCTORED" SCREENS.

I HAVE SEEN IT.

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Just because I like people deciding their opinion is the end all to be all...

I think these latest screens look pretty bad, maybe it's just whoever released them took bad screencaps and the gamma/contrast is all out of whack.

They look bad either way.

 

[Karma Kramer]

You know what's also possible? Maybe they had to compress the textures to fit on DVD and that's the issue? I mean think about this game, it must be MASSIVE with all the different audio clips (all the different conversation paths).

If you think about it, it totally makes sense as they're launching soon and probabaly needed to change filesizes/compression to get it under 9GB.

:lol

 

[Blackface]

Its more then the textures. It's the lighting aswell. If you have ever done any 3d rendering you know how much good lighting really helps.

 

[Tabris]

:lol

What? It's either that or bad image captures.

 

[White Man]

*sigh*

Turn up the contrast on these shots. They are washed out with crappy compression.

THE GAME LOOKS AS GOOD AS THE "DOCTORED" SCREENS.

I HAVE SEEN IT.

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Sorry, contrast won't fix the unimpressive textures and geometry in this shot:

 

[Deepblue]

The game will be fine, delicious even (it's Bioware for Christ sake, even their shit is better than everything else!) but you have to have some SERIOUS eye damage to not notice the lower-res textures on EVERYTHING in these new shots.

And as far as I can tell texture resolution has nothing to do with JPEG compression. You can notice JPEG comp. on edges and small objects.

*sigh*

The game is in development still. But anyway, I think you missed the point. I'm not basing my opinion of the game off of crappy screenshots, I am basing it on me staring at it with loving adoration on an LCD television in front of me.

Sometimes (hahahahah) GAF is a little nitpicky. But what does that matter, GAF will complain and complain about crappy screenshots, but when the final game comes out, I guarantee you will be more than satisfied with how the game looks.

 

[Restricted_Area]

Seriously what the hell happend to those amazing textures?
These new shots don't look bad but nothing amazing compared to those old shots.

 

[Karma Kramer]

What? It's either that or bad image captures.

I highly doubt that Mass Effect went over the 9GB by that much that they had to scale the graphics back to this.

It would be a technical nightmare.

 

[bengraven]

Maybe they're fixing the framerate by dropping most of our belovedly beautiful textures? My guess and it's a sad one.

BUT NOT SAD ENOUGH. I still need this game soon.

 

[sedaku]

-They take ss from some crap builds (well, why release them)
-They have to dumb down texture to fix frame rates issue.
-The screens before were rendered on computer, the screen now are actually rendered from 360 hardware.
-They have to reduce texture due to size constraint.
-A bad April Fool joke.
-We're all blind, it still looked the same.

Any of the above can be possible.

 

[QVT]

Looks like ****ing pitfall mans i def wont buy no graphics no buy.

What the hell, its obviously compression. Jpegs are a bad idea.

 

[Xisiqomelir]

What's our latest guesstimate for release, June?

 

[Muppet345]

What's our latest guesstimate for release, June?

confirmed for june 5th

 

[Gigglepoo]

Was anyone here actually excited for this game because of the graphics? These look fine. I'm sure the game will be all kinds of awesome, mind-blowing graphics or not.

 

[Borys]

I highly doubt that Mass Effect went over the 9GB by that much that they had to scale the graphics back to this.

It would be a technical nightmare.

Scaling back textures to 25% of their original resolution (say from 1024x1024 to 512x512) is a batch job that runs automatically. Same goes for recoding all the places in code where textures are loaded.

Scaling back on lighting and geometry is hard, especially on consoles.

 

[OverHeat]

I don't see the issue, the screens still look good. Maybe a little bit rougher, but may just be image compression issues?



You must not have played Oblivion PS3 eh?

You must not have played Double Agent PS3 eh?

Each platform as their own strength.
And depending on the DEV your gonna get mix result.

 

[ThirdEye]

Crazy 16xAA FTL.

 

[Mar]

The previous screenshots were wet your pants amazing. These ones... Still look great. But not quite as much seepage of the pantal area.

 

[JB1981]

Probably ran into framerate problems. Those old screens look much, much better.

 

[nelsonroyale]

still looks good, obviously not as good as the clean up shots, but in motion it looked great

peace

 

[Tabris]

You must not have played Double Agent PS3 eh?

Each platform as their own strength.
And depending on the DEV your gonna get mix result.

Yeah, you're correct, I didn't play some crappy tom clancy junk. (I'm just speaking about Double Agent here)

 

[Deepblue]

There be sharks in this water.

*swims away*

 

[BlueTsunami]

In other news. The Rainbow Six type of Squad Management and being able to bring it back to almost a turnbased game on the fly is ****en REVOLUTIONARY. I wish all games of this genre were like that.

 

[ypo]

Guys there's nothing to see here. They just forgot to hit the "Hi-Rez this" button on the devkit. It's right next to the "Optimizer" button.

 

[karasu]

Yeah, same.
Could only happen on GAF. Open your ****ing eyes goddamnit, look at that second screen! Looks amazing.
Oh who am I kidding. Go and play Resistance.

Have the people saying this ever looked at a Mass Effect screen before? EVER?

 

[BobFromPikeCreek]

You guys are off your collective rocker. Sure, they aren't as good as the last few batches of screenshots, but did anyone REALLY believe the end result would look exactly like them?

 

[Yoshichan]

And we're back on track!


...

Added motion blur, contrast and bump mapping on stones... IS THIS WHAT YOU PEOPLE WANT?

 

[Karma Kramer]

holy shit :lol

 

[Chrono]

Yeah, same.
Could only happen on GAF. Open your ****ing eyes goddamnit, look at that second screen! Looks amazing.
Oh who am I kidding. Go and play Resistance.

Resistance rocks, bitch.

 

[YYZ]

That pic where you can see his back (the one where he is on the ground, not water) is especially bad. The texture is underwhelming.

But there are people here who have seen it in motion and assure us that the game looks better than that. I'll take their word for it since anything could've happened to screenshots. There are a lot of cases where screens don't do a game justice and videos look a whole lot better, like night and day sometimes.

 

[BlueTsunami]

Doom_Bringer just popped a boner

 

[tHoMNZ]

To me, it looks like it's no longer running natively in an HD resolution, rather it's using the scaler upscale the output.....

 

[Duke Togo]

My god, that first touched up screen of Seikens' actually gave me vertigo! :lol

 

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[neorej]

So they're releasing this game on PS2 as well now ey?

 

[Funky Papa]

There is some hideous upscaling going on there, I hope it's artificial.

 

[Karma Kramer]

So they're releasing this game on PS2 as well now ey?

oh snap

 

[Borys]

It actually looks better in Seiken's pics.

 

[Revelations]

You guys are off your collective rocker. Sure, they aren't as good as the last few batches of screenshots, but did anyone REALLY believe the end result would look exactly like them?

Yes.