shouamabane
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I strongly considered buying the Samsung for 1400 plus tax. I have no idea how you got that deal.
In the end, I decided that I would want a 65" set to fully take advantage of 4K resolution. So I'm waiting another year at least.
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4K TV's For Around $1000?
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I strongly considered buying the Samsung for 1400 plus tax. I have no idea how you got that deal.
In the end, I decided that I would want a 65" set to fully take advantage of 4K resolution. So I'm waiting another year at least.
Sleeping Lesson
Member
What's the consensus on the 2016 Vizios? The have full-array backlighting, but no HDR right? I'm debating on getting a 60" 4K this year or next.
Mrstriker09
Member
Im finally gonna go buy the samsung ks8000 tv with a sound bar. I Didnt know bestbuy had 24 month no interest so ill pay it off in a few months!
Marty Chinn
Member
It's not totally subjective, it's actually pretty objective. It would be like buying an HDTV without HDCP, which they did sell for a period of time. Jumping in too early without understanding the landscape and the long term prospects could be wasting money needlessly. Unless your TV doesn't turn on, or doesn't function, it's really not a great idea to jump on a 4K set at this point in time, especially if price is a big concern. We are litterally on the edge of a wave of TVs that are Premium UHD certified or at least specs that match the certification. There are some out now, and by next year they should be pretty common and possibly with pretty good pricing too. Getting something that doesn't conform to the standards is likely wasting money. Again, imagine if you got a TV that didn't have HDMI or had HDCP and think of how those things are utilized today as common and standard. Also keep in mind, it sounds like currently UHD Blu ray players don't seem to work very well with non HDR sets too.
Shadow2222
Member
I wish I didn't already have a 2014 4K model. Through my work I have access to Samsung discounts and can get a 55" KS8500 for $1,199, but I just can't convince myself to get it with a perfectly functional UB8500, even though it lacks HDR.
Good bang for your buck. Vizio's has been around a while.
Latvian Hitman
Member
Best price/performance ratio for any 2016 4K set, IMO. Vizio used to be more of a bottom feeder brand, but they've made some big strides the last couple of years.
Marty Chinn
Member
The P series is one of their higher tier lines that includes HDR. The thing to keep in mind is Vizio is well known for offering decent quality for a good price. They're a good bang for your buck brand and not necessarily the best TV out there. So even though the P series is a higher tier line, it still fairly inexpensive relative to other sets offering the similar functionality.
They started as what was seen as cheap, budget TV's. Then they started really focusing on quality after seeing a gap in the TV market, expanding their lineup, and now they make legitimately some of the best TV's out there at very reasonable prices, especially when comparing them to equivalent displays from other brands, which only increases the quality/value ratio they offer.
Straight Edge
Member
lt only has 22ms lag with HDR on correct?
Shadow2222
Member
I saw that BuyDig through eBay has the 2016 Vizio M55-D0 on sale for $619.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vizio-M55-D0-55-Inch-4K-Ultra-HD-HDR-TV-Home-Theater-Display-/331922783072?hash=item4d4823bb60:g:U0kAAOSwaB5Xm3yb
I keep hearing great things about the TV, but just keep in mind it won't get nearly as bright or handle HDR content as well as the P series, and seems to have high input lag when HDR is on (but it at least still is compatible with HDR and Dolby Vision content, plus has full-array backlighting).
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vizio-M55-D0-55-Inch-4K-Ultra-HD-HDR-TV-Home-Theater-Display-/331922783072?hash=item4d4823bb60:g:U0kAAOSwaB5Xm3yb
I keep hearing great things about the TV, but just keep in mind it won't get nearly as bright or handle HDR content as well as the P series, and seems to have high input lag when HDR is on (but it at least still is compatible with HDR and Dolby Vision content, plus has full-array backlighting).
Alright GAF.. I need some moral support here.
I told myself that I would wait until I move (October) to buy a new TV, but theres a deal that I dont think I can pass up. Ill need someone to verbally tell me that Im an idiot and I should buy this TV right now.
Model: Samsung UN60KS8000 60-Inch 4K Ultra HD Smart LED TV (2016 Model)
Current Price: $1,499
Price after discount: $1,244
Shipping and Handling: Free
Promotional eGift Card: $475 (will use on Xbox One S / Sound Bar)
Like, I should get this. Right?
I told myself that I would wait until I move (October) to buy a new TV, but theres a deal that I dont think I can pass up. Ill need someone to verbally tell me that Im an idiot and I should buy this TV right now.
Model: Samsung UN60KS8000 60-Inch 4K Ultra HD Smart LED TV (2016 Model)
Current Price: $1,499
Price after discount: $1,244
Shipping and Handling: Free
Promotional eGift Card: $475 (will use on Xbox One S / Sound Bar)
Like, I should get this. Right?
Straight Edge
Member
Where is this deal?
Perfect Cha0s
Member
I've had my eye on that 50" Vizio P-series for a while, but I recall reading something somewhere that the panel tech on the 50" (or 55") is different, and not as good as, the ones in the other models?
I really can't remember what exactly it was, or where I read it, but it was something about one of the sizes of the P series not having colors/blacks as good as the other sizes.
I really can't remember what exactly it was, or where I read it, but it was something about one of the sizes of the P series not having colors/blacks as good as the other sizes.
The 55" uses an IPS panel (which has better viewing angles), whereas every other size uses a VA panel (which is brighter and has better contrast/black levels).
However, the 50" is a 60hz display, compared to 120hz for every other size.
Slurpy2k20
Member
I'm about to pull the trigger on a 55" 2016 Vizio M series. Any reason not to, for that pricepoint? It's at the limit of what I'm willing to pay, and seems like a well rounded set with HDR10 and Dolby Vision. Was considering the LG UH6150, but the reviews are pretty bad.
Aztechnology
Member
Personally I just can't do IPS anymore if I have an alternative. I also want 120hz though, so the fact my perfect size is 50" but I need to buy a 65" to get all the features I want is just silly.
Also
Vizio 55" 2016 M series for $619.99 on Buydigs ebay site. Wouldn't recommend to those planning to use it as a PC monitor as it can't do 4:4:4. But from what I've seen from the local store model it's probably great for TV, Movies and console gaming.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/331922783072?rmvSB=true&afsrc=1&rmvSB=true
http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/vizio/m-series-2016
Shadow2222
Member
Is this Dell? I can't seem to replicate the deal when adding to the cart.
DirgeExtinction
Member
The 2016 P-Series has HDR support. Both HDR10(via HDMI for now) and Dolby(via HDMI and streaming/casting).
Slurpy2k20
Member
Uh, I'm seeing it as $900USD. Also, in Canada I can't find it for less than $1,400. Am I getting ripped off?
Slurpy2k20
Member
The Artisan
Member
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-UN5...216290?hash=item4d3ba5ff22:g:az4AAOSwnGJWT18z
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sony-XBR-43...216241?hash=item4d3ba5fef1:g:2gcAAOSwgY9Xf7o2
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Panasonic-T...019543?hash=item33b4861a57:g:RZ0AAOSwuAVWxRW4
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sony-XBR-55...650591?hash=item488509b29f:g:NyYAAOSwLzdWSqcX
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sony-XBR-43...216241?hash=item4d3ba5fef1:g:2gcAAOSwgY9Xf7o2
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Panasonic-T...019543?hash=item33b4861a57:g:RZ0AAOSwuAVWxRW4
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sony-XBR-55...650591?hash=item488509b29f:g:NyYAAOSwLzdWSqcX
Yeah it's Dell, however I get special deals through them so the entire package I described won't be available to everyone.
Probably gonna pull the trigger. I think this is too good to pass up and I'm saving over $700 on the package.
How do you figure? These are the numbers for the top rated gaming tvs of the two respective brands:
Sony X810C
Input Lag : 35.7 ms
With Interpolation : 68.3 ms
Outside Game Mode : 72.0 ms
Samsung KS8000
Input Lag : 20.9 ms
With Interpolation : 118.9 ms
Outside Game Mode : 113.5 ms
Aztechnology
Member
Damn... must have ended. Price was $619.99 when I posted.
SEGAvangelist
Member
I have to disagree. Their recent 4K lineup isn't up to snuff compared the competitors this go around.
Obliterator
Member
As soon as I can't get a 65inch 4k HDR TV for $1000 is the day I upgrade
family_guy
Member
I have the 65KS8000. It's a great TV. However I had to return a few to get one that was mostly perfect. The problem is there's some light bleed at the top edge of the TV, but the amount it bleeds varies. I was able to get one that had no light bleed.
DirgeExtinction
Member
So what's the difference between this and the P?
*Edit* Got my answer.
The M series has an 8 bit panel while the P series has a 10 bit panel. The M doesn't have wide color gamut support while the P does.
So does this mean the M has a sort of faux HDR?
Another year or two maybe? Might not be 50 inch though, min OLED size right now is 55 and not sure that will change.
If you up your budget to $1300-1500 it should definitely be attainable with closeout sales on this year's models next year.
Most 4k tvs have a minimum size of 40".
petran79
Banned
Thanks. 4k Computer monitors are smaller at 28". Maybe a PC monitor with an integrated TV tuner would be the cheapest option.
xXCrazyCostaXX
Member
I'm trying to tell the difference between the KS8000 and 9000 but I don't really under stand what the difference is really
The M-series also only has 64 active LED zones for local dimming, compared to 128 for the P-series, which means the P-series will have better contrast and less light blooming in high contrast areas.
Though to be fair, the 2015 M-series only had 32 and the 2015 P had 64, so it's still pretty good.
ClayKavalier
Banned
Yeah, and 3D isn't a part of the 4K BluRay standard. I guess it could be ressurected but it's done for now, as far as new TVs and 4K content goes.
I bought this one recently:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01E69VEE6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I've had it for a few days, and it's quite lovely. Great price, great picture quality, and gaming on it has been awesome. I paid $622 USD for it including shipping and tax, but it's still under $1000. 50" as well. I love it so far, and since I only really use it for Gaming/Netflix/Hulu/Amazon/Youtube, it's perfect for me.
xXCrazyCostaXX
Member
Marty Chinn
Member
Keep in mind that OLED has a much much much shorter lifespan than other TVs out there.
xXCrazyCostaXX
Member
I thought the 2016 models fixed that somewhat
Marty Chinn
Member
My friend was researching TVs lately and was heavily interested in OLED and said from what he looked up, the LGs half life was around 16,000 hours since the blue degrades faster than the other colors and sometimes the half life mentioned is not based off the blue rating to make it sound like it lasts longer. 16,000 for half life seems too short for my taste for paying a premium on OLED.
The 2016 OLEDs are rated at 100,000 hours: http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1465304750
Like any other TV the other electronics will probably fail before the panel itself goes out.
I bought a 2015 vizio m80 a few months ago for $2600. The wife wanted at least a 70" in our living room and I really wanted a vizio set. But at the time, vizio didn't have the M series out yet or at least in 70"+. It's my first 4k set and I missed out on HDR =(. But I still have a 60" in my loft that I'll be replacing eventually so that replacement will likely be a 65-70" M series. Reading all this makes me sad that our main TV doesn't have hdr capabilities. And I planned on having the ps neo down there for the 4k Br player