nVidiot_Whore said:
1080i only HDTV's were commonplace on the market just a few years before the PS3 launched. There were still a handful of brand new TV's the year the PS3 launched that didn't support anything but 1080i.
Sony's first digital TV was in 1998.
To be honest, it's going to be difficult finding information on this ... but from being quite involved in this discussing during PS3's launch, I don't recall there being much in the way of analog TV's availability back then.
What I do recall is that there was some information available regarding HD adoption. And at the time of launch, while it's true analog-only wasn't too far in the past ... actual install base was not particularly high ... which was my point.
This circles back to my argument though. I too think it sucked it didn't support 1080i out of the box, but I'm confused by your reasoning for blaming SE when it's SCE that fucked it up. Your blame is misguided.
If you want to discuss the why's things turned out as they did ... fine ... I'm just confused by taking things out on the wrong party.
HD devices had been on the market for years with support of 1080i.. to not support that resolution would be a huge anomaly on any product feature sheet. I owned several other HD devices when the PS3 launched.. all supported the resolution.
I agree, though a console is a bit of a different beast from a technical standpoint. Still should have had things ready in the SDK though.
Dev's have been quite coy about just what the problem was unfortunately, so it's difficult to finger just what happened.
In fact a lot of the people Sony basically said "fuck you" too were early adopter types.. people willing to spend thousands of dollars to jump into the HDTV market a couple years before they dramatically dropped in price... the exact type of people that would be interested in Blu-Ray for instance.
I wouldn't go quite that far ... it was more the middle adopters that lost out. Early adopters would have already had a digital set at that point ... they had been out since PS2 launched and where at reasonable price-points once PS3 hit.
Hell I bought an HDTV in anticipation of PS3, and it wasn't crazy expensive ... and I wasn't remotely an early adopter of digital TV's (in that instance).
I understand that HDTV sales had been steadily increasing over those years while 1080i TVs on the market were decreasing.. I get how the math works.. I get that the majority of HDTVs in homes supported 720p at the time..
But it was still a huge chunk of TVs.. millions.. and the owners of those TVs were exactly who would want to be and be willing to buy a $600 console/blu-ray player.
I'd be interested to see data on this. I wonder if it was even millions at that point.
No, I'm taking my frustrations out on Sony. I really don't care if one division fucked up and another didn't. I have a multitude of high quality options to me in the TV business, so I'll take my frustrations out there if I damn well please.. I do not have any other way of playing Playstation exclusive games than to buy a Playstation... so I'll continue to buy that product while voicing my frustrations and concerns.
You can't SERIOUSLY not be following me here.
If you can take your frustrations out 'where you damn well please', I most certainly can seriously not follow your logic. It's based on an understanding of how conglomerates are run. I can cite a particular product from basically any company that pissed me off ... that doesn't make me write off anything they make ever. Not unless it's some strategic decision that really fucks me over ... which I wouldn't consider this.