wapplew
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Age of Empires 4 announced, made by Relic (Dawn of War/Homeworld/Company of Heroes)
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Don't give them ideas...
My sentiments exactly, I really hope they'll do AoE justice and not just whip out more of the same that they've done lately.
I wouldn't put it past them to pull an Empire Earth and make it encompass the eras of all three previous games.
That being said, I also think the late nineteenth and early twentieth century era is highly likely if they're treating this as a direct sequel to III. It all depends on what they're going for.
dr_rus
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Never forget
The AOE4 trailer they've shown today was pretty much based on this ad.
Never forget
I'll be surprised if this happens given the nostalgia angle they're peddling.
I did. The economy alone is a tiny fraction of what AoE games have had. The first Dawn of War is at least a traditional base building RTS but it's still a long way from AoE
Most AoE 2 games are played with 300 pop online. I think the 200 was just a hardware limit rather than a conscious decision by Ensemble
Eolz
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While I disagree a bit for their best game (opinions...
), I think that this is mixing a bit everything together.DoW is a special case where they wanted to try something different for 2, and 3 was trying to bring both together (didn't work well). But as far as I understand it, they have quite a bit of creative freedom, and Sega is pushing for good games from developers they bought for their expertise.
AoE is something made for another publisher, under different rules. I think Relic (even if like every developer they're obviously different at each game) is perfectly capable of doing this, and unlike what some others are thinking, a lot more suited for the job than Creative Assembly, which are used to a really different type of strategy game.
This. It might get some changes, but their contract is to make an Age of Empires game, they'll still have MS watching them.
Of course. As I said, Age 2 is an example of that.
fast_taker
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i am really excited about relic's involvement with aoe4
VincentMatts
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Xbox have to give all their exclusives to PC while PC doesn't. Seems fair
Poodlestrike
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Tbh, after they got HW2 out of CA, I have faith that MS's guys can get Relic to keep to the formula.
We need 4 resources, walls, extensive bases, oodles of techs. Bigass unit count. Lots and lots of factions, no need to overdiversify 'em. For god's sake, don't make this thing for eSports. Not everything needs to be a rush game, dammit.
In terms of innovations over past titles, I'm not sure. I like unit-as-squad stuff, a la Rise of Nations. Making it cover a larger timeframe than previously makes a lot of sense as well, though they could just do the iteration outlined in that picture from way back when.
We need 4 resources, walls, extensive bases, oodles of techs. Bigass unit count. Lots and lots of factions, no need to overdiversify 'em. For god's sake, don't make this thing for eSports. Not everything needs to be a rush game, dammit.
In terms of innovations over past titles, I'm not sure. I like unit-as-squad stuff, a la Rise of Nations. Making it cover a larger timeframe than previously makes a lot of sense as well, though they could just do the iteration outlined in that picture from way back when.
If there's anything to glean from the teaser, is that this will cover a far more lengthy series of ages than any of the previous games.
Which makes me really curious if it'll still be just 4 resources, or they change over the ages.
Well, yes, this would be their first game with a gathering economy, but I thought we were talking about scale here, not the nuances of how the game's progression works.
Either way, these are also the guys who made Space Marine, so I'm inclined to believe they have what it takes to tackle something different from their previous games.
RenegadeXV8
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Dawn of War 3 plays nothing like DoW2 or CoH2.
While DoW3's reception wasn't too hot, at the very least they're aware of its problems (based on dev posts in their official forums) so I'm still a bit optimistic.
Alex_Mexico
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Not sure if excited.
I loved AoE2 but hated 3... couldn't stand it and went back to 2. Dunno how to feel about AoE4.
I loved AoE2 but hated 3... couldn't stand it and went back to 2. Dunno how to feel about AoE4.
SofNasciment-
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I'd really like if it was like Rise of Nations. But then, it's called Age of Empires 4, and no Rise of Nations 2, so I wouldn't bet on it.
killertofu
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There is something more...romantic about the civs in AoE 1 and 2.
Couldn't really get into the whole French revolution thing. Would be even less interested if it went to WWII. But I'lll keep an open mind
Couldn't really get into the whole French revolution thing. Would be even less interested if it went to WWII. But I'lll keep an open mind
Eh, I'm not sure there's much wrong with Relic myself, I just disagree that the DoW series is really anything like AoE. They're probably the best Dev Microsoft could have got for the series, though personally I would have liked if Forgotten Empires could have been involved
Starfield
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SofNasciment-
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Btw, was that Tywin Lannister narrating?
Given the time frame walls may well be replaced with trenches.
yes, it's Charles Dance.
Xion_Stellar
People should stop referencing data that makes me feel uncomfortable because games get ported to platforms I don't like
You guys are crazy I hope they continue to add more Ages even if they have to go into Alternative Timeline nonsense to justify adding additional Ages/Technology to Empires/Factions that no longer exist within a given period/age.
I want Age of Empires to eventually catch up to Empire Earth and allow me to go into the Space Age or Nano Age with the Aztecs if I wanted to do so.
I want Age of Empires to eventually catch up to Empire Earth and allow me to go into the Space Age or Nano Age with the Aztecs if I wanted to do so.
Would be hard to justify lack of mouse/keyboard support.
Well, they probably are involved, judging from how deep into the series they are at this point. At the very least, Relic is likely consulting with some of their devs on this since they know AoE better than anyone outside of former Ensemble employees. Just a hunch, mind you, I don't have any real proof at this point.
StrategyFan
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most of the RTS games after aok capped out at similar limits. rise of nations. age of myth, age 3, age online. starcraft 2
they'll probably have higher pop limits as an option, but the game requires very fine control of villagers and small skirmish forces
SofNasciment-
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His voice is awesome. Really liked him in TW3.
LordBaztion
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that's probably why they wanted the Company of Heroes developers.
I hope the game is a throwback or at least it's pre WWII
People wanted a sequel to either the first or the second game, but instead got something that's kind of in-between and didn't satisfy either camp, is pretty much what it comes down to.
adversarial
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Stoked as fuck, but, wait, so it's just going to be another WW1 game? Based on what people are saying in this thread.
DryvBy
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AOE2HD has a pop limit of 500 unmodded. Modded is unlimited. (And there's also a mod to enable dead bodies to stay forever, which is just crazy on a system).
AOE2 is the perfect RTS imo. I really hope this is an update on just that.
Dawn of War 3 was also the way it was because they weren't sure if people wanted Dawn of War 1, Dawn of War 2, or something with MOBA ideas infused, so they went with one third of each.
Here, it's a pretty clear vision.
AoE2 HD and AoM HD if you want something slow paced
http://store.steampowered.com/app/221380/Age_of_Empires_II_HD/
http://store.steampowered.com/app/266840/Age_of_Mythology_Extended_Edition/
Starcraft Remastered and Starcraft 2(Available on Bnet) when you want something fast paced.
Giftofgab24
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Lmao. PC has more Microsoft exclusives than the Xbox one X does. Hahahaha.
Don't get me wrong. I'm excited for this game and we'll asare that it should onlly be played with KB&M, but it just boggles my mind that they're launching a new console and the only new exclusive they have isn't even gonna be playable on it.
Don't get me wrong. I'm excited for this game and we'll asare that it should onlly be played with KB&M, but it just boggles my mind that they're launching a new console and the only new exclusive they have isn't even gonna be playable on it.
Villagers? Only in the dark ages, once your Econ is going your mostly just grabbing a bunch and building a resource camp. The main challenge of the game is managing small skirmish forces, an economy, a main force all at the same time. You won't see Cav archer micro in Imperial age, unless you're Daut
