Alan Wake is full-on Remedy, I am not sure what you are seeking for or why you would expect to like it more if it would be a new IP.
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Alan Wake 2 to be revealed this year!?
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Alan Wake is full-on Remedy, I am not sure what you are seeking for or why you would expect to like it more if it would be a new IP.
Well it's looking like you need to go find something else to play as at this point all signs are pointing to them revealing something Alan Wake related.
Sucks for you. Good for those of us who like the game.
rosaceadude2112
Member
I love Max Payne. Just hoping they can make something that good.
I just want another game using the Alan Wake engine. That thing's awesome. And I like Alan Wake a lot, but I'm positive not having technological restraints like they did with the first game will allow them to create a much better game this time around.
Pretty much this. The team's talented as hell, but the first one had a lot of changes made because of outside factors. I think things have been going more smoothly this time.
Pretty much this. The team's talented as hell, but the first one had a lot of changes made because of outside factors. I think things have been going more smoothly this time.
AW could totally do things what you saw in the tech demo, it's jsut the narrative that made the changes.
toastyToast
Member
I haven't played AN, but the original Alan Wake's combat is pretty tedious. Point flashlight until shadow goes away and shoot exactly 3 times with a pistol to kill regular enemies, I can't remember what is for the larger ones. Flares speed things up somewhat. If you're lucky and have a flashbang, use it. That's pretty much it. At least let me aim and shoot them in the head to make the fights go by faster, damn.
The combat soured me on the game overall.
The game, like any good shooter, has an optimal way to play. There are other ways as well. Switch on alternate light sources, use flares and flashbangs with some strategy.
Yes, pointing a flashlight and then shooting an enemy is a thing you have to do, but... uh... you have to point and shoot at any enemy in any game out there. This isn't really all that different, beyond letting them get a bit too close for comfort.
The game's got, what... nine different enemy types, not counting bear trap type stuff? There's a surprising bit of depth to its play--moreso, I'd say, than Max Payne 2.
Like I said earlier in the thread, I read somewhere--I want to say Digital Foundry--that the game was quite literally doing many of the things shown in the tech demo. They basically just did things to limit the ways players could go--the world itself was still there, with the 360 still rendering it all.
toastyToast
Member
It was the wait after pointing. Without the luxury of a flare or flashbang it took a few seconds to even be able to shoot any enemy. That sounds like a terrible idea to me. I can understand it in the survival horror sense but, there I am carrying a God damn hunting rifle and it doesn't work until a predetermined amount of time passes. I didn't feel helpless, I felt like I was in a queue, waiting to use my gun.
I felt annoyed rather than tense, which is what I think they were going for. To what extent does AN spruce things up? I liked the game otherwise, Barry excluded
Then let's have AW2 show off the coolest of things.
Remedy is very small, dont count on multiple IPs.
On their hiring page it says that they are working on an unannounced iOS project.
I'd say the difference is that the two steps process of flashing a guy and then shooting him that, while interesting at the beginning, gets incredibly repetitive a few hours in. Which is a shame because the shooting itself feels very impactful, but because of that two steps process I, and I would bet most other players, ended up skipping as much of the combat scenarios as possible towards the end.
If they manage to find a narrative excuse so your bullets are infused with light or whatever I'll be totally down for AW2, if not I'll probably pass.
I love Alan Wake, one of my favorite games of the generation even with some of the issues it has. I can't wait for Alan Wake 2.
If Alan Wake 2 is going to be a launch game for the next Xbox like rumored I doubt it will be on PC day one, though I'm sure Remedy will get it on PC as soon as possible.
If Alan Wake 2 is going to be a launch game for the next Xbox like rumored I doubt it will be on PC day one, though I'm sure Remedy will get it on PC as soon as possible.
Clay Davis
Member
they fixed most of the problems I had with alan wake in american nightmare. so any faith I lost in them was fully restored after playing that gem of a title.
What was the best selling launch game for X360/PS3?
I know that Uncharted 1 was launched when there was only 6 million sold PS3s, and the game eventually reached 4.5mill mark.
Agree. people will shit on AW combat which imo was superb even if the enemy types were 'samey' each encounter with them was also different and more importantly tense as hell especially when you have them coming from various directions and realise that the best move is to try to make it to the nearest light while fighting them off. What I loved is how important the sound was in letting you know which way they were coming from.
It got quite tactical the further you got into the game. with the subtle sound alerts and the weapons meaning different approaches could be taken
Well I certainly hope that rumor is false, I have a strong memory reading that the partnership with MS and release of AW for the 360 was very arduous and taxing on Remedy. Why they would put themselves through that again, I don't know...
1. American Nightmare has crossbows, which penetrate darkness, and two enemy types (crowguys and splitter guys) that don't have darkshields at all.
2. Right, but that's all about crowd control. On Nightmare difficulty, using light to manage your enemies is essentially. It's not "wait to shoot" it's "use light to keep them at bay, burn the darkness away, and then kill them at the last possible second." It's fascinating and unique once you figure out how to do it.
BurnOutBrighter
Banned
Sorry, but there's no saving that clusterfuck of a story. OG Alan Wake was fine, but the DLC turned it to crap.
toastyToast
Member
Nice
I checked my Steam library and apparently I bought AN several months ago lol
I'll definitely look into it soon
That must have been a different company I think, if anything it was quite the opposit as MS could have pulled the plug in those ~10 years easily.
So awesome.
So gorgeous, the big dudes coming out of the smoke and the lighting. One can only imagine what their next game will look like.
Clay Davis
Member
those bastard splitters. they were the bane of my existence in fight till dawn mode / arcade mode. god. :/
dr_rus
Member
1. Uncharted 1 wasn't a PS3 launch title, it launched in the end of 2007 while PS3 was on the market since the end of 2006.
2. Unless they plan to move Alan Wake in Uncharted direction, it won't sell as much as Uncharted anyway.
3. They own the IP. While making an exclusivity deal with MS on the launch of next generation will probably bring them a solid funding right away in the long run it'd be much wiser to just be on all platforms that there are. I actually think that Epic missed a lot of sales by not bringing Gears 2 and 3 to PC and PS3 this gen.
Clay Davis
Member
bad news for those on pc if this does turn out to be true, although I suspect a port a year or two down the line might take place.
anyway, as mentioned above, I hope the sequel is more in line with the open world tech demo we original saw when they unveiled the game. will it work narratively? well, that's anyone's guess, but I think it could given the events of american nightmare.
AW sold what 2m WW, I'd say the sequel could do UC numbers.
Their vision was that they did not had a vision, Os said he regrets showing the game this early as it was still in prototyping phase - this rised the whole myth about the open world game. But people love to say this again and again...
It makes sense though, the deal can be extremely interesting for both parties. Remedy gets funding and financial back up and MS gets a great title exclusive to their machine.
The PC gamers in all this ? Bah, they won't pick up such game until it's 5 dollars on Steam anyway. I don't think Remedy will miss this audience.
So basically the entire project was made up as they went along lol. Let's hope they learned thier lessons and they make a more organised, well made sequel.
PetriP-TNT
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The only reason Alan Wake didn't launch also on PC was because MS said so because lol PC and fuck yeah comfy couches. Of course MS/Remedy couldn't drop the game, or the DLC or American Nightmare because like you said they had paid huge bucks for it.
Remedy is and has been since Death Rally my favorite finnish developer so pardon my tone.
Messofanego
Banned
No, that was just me remembering my PC friends when I talked about Alan Wake.
"Oh, great I will pick this up for dirt cheap"
Huh. Such a great game that deserved to sell so much more.
Regarding the port...Are you seriously impressed that a cheap port recoups its costs ?
