that sounds positive to me. Anyone willing to spin that another way?
It's going to be the Dreamcast of next gen, something I've said for a while now after downgrading it from being the PS2 of next gen =p
that sounds positive to me. Anyone willing to spin that another way?
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that sounds positive to me. Anyone willing to spin that another way?
But does he mean "next gen" as in PS4/720 or as in PS360?
if you're not joking:
you think its possible he's saying the Wii-U is a bridge to the next gen of 6/7 years ago...
he means a bridge to the coming next gen.
Backing up a report this week claiming Wii U is less powerful than Xbox 360 and PS3, key developers told CVG that it's processor intensive game systems which they're struggling to get up to par with current-gen consoles.
Sources said graphical quality "won't be a problem" on Nintendo's new console, but a drop in CPU horsepower compared to 360 and PS3 could see Wii U lag behind in areas such as complicated physics and AI.
"Assumptions that Wii U games will look like 'up rezzed' current-gen titles with better textures aren't quite right. They'll look just as good, but not better," one developer told CVG. "You shouldn't expect anything special from a graphics point of view," they added.
A second source working on a big name franchise said GPU and RAM power "won't be a problem" on the new console but, again, claimed Wii U struggles to match PS3 and 360 in processing power.
"We're still working on dev machines but there have definitely been some issues [in porting PS3/360 games]," our source said. "It's not actually a problem getting things up and running because the architecture is pretty conventional, but there are constraints with stuff like physics and AI processing because the hardware isn't quite as capable."
The same source concluded, bluntly: "I suppose you don't need sophisticated physics to make a Mario game."
Some dev sources have speculated that Wii U's relatively low technical specs may be down to an attempt to attractively price the console, which will of course come bundled with a pricey touchscreen controller, as first revealed by CVG. It's also worth noting that unlike its rivals, Wii U has the task of sending separate images to that controller, potentially eating up more hardware juice.
Or a bridge to current gen for Nintendo.
Apparently, more developers have chimed in, backing up the report from GameIndustry.biz.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=468841
"And even since they gave us our first alpha kit, our very first 'pre-prototype' development hardware that they kind of let us play around with, they've done so many things to make the platform better. So it's getting better for us as developers."
Apparently, more developers have chimed in, backing up the report from GameIndustry.biz.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=468841
Apparently, more developers have chimed in, backing up the report from GameIndustry.biz.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=468841
Well, this contradicts this very thread. I'm really starting to think some developers aren't modifying their code for a processor with OOE.Apparently, more developers have chimed in, backing up the report from GameIndustry.biz.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=468841
That doesn't surprise me at all. Common middleware is hardly optimized at this point (or wasn't until very recently) and performs like ass.Apparently, more developers have chimed in, backing up the report from GameIndustry.biz.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=468841
Apparently, more developers have chimed in, backing up the report from GameIndustry.biz.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=468841
How many times are we going to go back and forth with this fucking nonsense?Apparently, more developers have chimed in, backing up the report from GameIndustry.biz.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=468841
No I wouldn't think Ipad was more powerful if I read that quite in isolation. He doesn't say anything about the processor, he only mentions screen resolution.
You can almost taste the bitterness here.The same source concluded, bluntly: "I suppose you don't need sophisticated physics to make a Mario game."
It's also worth noting that the document I've seen was talking about the software pipeline of the engine in question. There's also an even faster hardware pipeline on Wii U that's not available on PS360, but that one leads to different results and therefore means more work for the development studios.This is actualy exactly in line with what wsippel said about the CPU according to an official middleware document he found. Evidently middleware has been struggling with the CPU for awhile now due to optimization issues. The document states that they've very recently improved performances by 400%, bringing CPU usage at 360 levels in most areas and superior to 360 in a few. Imagine if your middleware was performing 4x less than optimal, that would explain CPU troubles some devs have been talking about.
Well, it's not a significant leap, but the one's having issues are having issues with the middleware not being optimized.So which side has more corroborations at this point, <= PS360 or > PS360? I know some of you are keeping count.
If only he didn't reveal his name like other sources... then itd be true!So words from a director. Not a dev.
Wii U will be many times more powerful than PS360.
Devs are devs. Not all of them even have the same dev kits. If rumored specs are anything to go by, 1GB of RAM with even a triple core IBM Power7 and the lowest possible spec R700 AMD GPU would still put it at 4x the power of PS360.
People expecting it to be a stop-gap between this gen and the next gen are delusional. Sony and Microsoft are not coming out with anything special either. It's all about the money now. Microsoft got a taste of it this gen, and Sony cannot afford to lose much more.
The entire upcoming generation is going to be a stop-gap between now and next-gen.
Remember people this is Nintendo they have a ram fetish, whatever amount of ram they put in the wiiU it will be some good stuff.
Probably MS due to money hats.So what console is Epic planning to release this on?
Theyre late in the cycle so theyve got this really great processor.
One of the best? If it's not second best, they should be really embarrassed.
A new console being released this year should not be 'almost as powerful' or 'powerful in some areas' compared to 7 year old tech....it should be better in every area.
Not only PS4/Next Box, but Kelper based Tegra4 chips will embarrass this machine next year.
Im gettin worried, i hope for Nintendo that MS/Sony wont reveal or hype their next systems too much this e3.
"Theyre late in the cycle so theyve got this really great processor."
This says everything. This won't be a next gen machine. Just a really good current gen console.
Im gettin worried, i hope for Nintendo that MS/Sony wont reveal or hype their next systems too much this e3.
So what console is Epic planning to release this on?
And why would they be developing it when they're already working with next-gen hardware if that hardware can't handle it?
Do you guys think the wii u will be able to do grafx?
Theyre late in the cycle so theyve got this really great processor.
You mean yourself?Another vague comment, another thread full of the usual suspects.
You mean yourself?
It's going to be the Dreamcast of next gen, something I've said for a while now after downgrading it from being the PS2 of next gen =p
Im gettin worried, i hope for Nintendo that MS/Sony wont reveal or hype their next systems too much this e3.
Usual suspect doing damage control for Nintendo.Are you fucking kidding me? I'm like a moth to the flame.
Usual suspect doing damage control for Nintendo.