Yeah some people reported KH 0.2 is running at 60fps on PS4 Pro while 30fps on PS4
Sorry if I gave the impression I was irritated! Many GAF threads live on long after the OP author moves to another discussion, so it's not unreasonable to think that the list might not be maintained. I was just trying to reiterate that I am paying attention, and it should be a couple days at most between updates.
You could turn out to be right. We think of "OS-level supersampling" as just a way to make 1080p displays get the IQ benefits from games running at higher resolution. With that definition, things like World of Final Fantasy and XCOM 2 don't seem to fit, since even on 4K displays they show no resolution improvements.
Great info! Since you have the game and a Pro, could you post screenshots? Even if they're 1080p, it might be possible to tell if they're supersampled or not. Captures from the different portions of the collection would be ideal.
Ah I see, sorry
Yeah I found some older articles saying they were looking into it, but nothing else. I saw the game on a OG console the other day on a 60" and it *really* needed some AA or scaling resolution :/You mean the 60 fps patch, yes? If so, yeah that's annoying, although I seriously doubt they could reach 60 in the first place. There is a Pro patch though, it was included from the start.
Thanks for these! As I said, since your Pro system is set to 1080p output, I can't tell directly by pixel counting whether the game is running at a higher resolution. Pixel counting normally can detect any rendering resolution up to the size of the screenshot, and yours are 4K. However, in this case that 4K is achieved by upscaling the 1080p buffer the Pro is outputting to your TV.
If you could, that'd be great! Thanks to you and everyone else who contributes.
Thank you! My counts seem to indicate that all assets, including fighters, background, and UI are still rendered at 1080p. (The lack of UI up-res isn't surprising, considering the game relies strongly on flat art there rather than rendering.) I appreciate your help in the thread!
If you think about it, an actual "list of games with no noticeable improvements" would not be short, it'd include every PS4 game not in the main list. That was my point, that there isn't a real distinction between unsupported games and "supported but no change". The "maybe this game has support" category is more meaningful, so for that I'll keep the already-existing list in the first post.
You mean there's been a 1.06 patch in the last week? Because as of the 1.05 patch, capture shows it's definitely not locked to 30fps.
Obviously, this is your thing and it's entirely up to you what you do here.
Here's some closing screenshots from Ratchet and Clank. I have to say, SUPER impressed with how clean and vibrant the game looks. Incredibly consistent performance as well.
)2.) I've been seriously considering a PS4 Pro despite not having a 4k monitor/TV since it does seem to bring some performance improvements in certain games at 1080p. Am I being dumb?
Thank you so much for the reply! I just checked and my monitor supports HDCP so I should be good on that front
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I would rebuy this if it is PRO patched.
I wanna say the presentation is very clean, to a point that I believe there is downsampling happening here. I'm playing now and everything seems really sharp and smooth.Yeah they said that it does have Pro enhancements but they dont have anything specified yet.
Here's some quick screens
1080p:
4k:
Thanks so much for the heads up names2hard4you, and to Omegabalmung9 again for the great comparison shots! I pixel counted, and Fate/EXTELLA seems to be 1920x1080 with no downsampling for 1080p displays (even the UI isn't higher resolution). I don't see any texture, AF, shadow, lighting, or reflection changes either. I also checked some videos, and the game is 60fps target on both standard and PS4 Pro. Though there may be differences in how well it holds that target, I didn't see obvious gulfs between them. So for now I won't add the game to the main list. But the videos I saw weren't direct comparisons or even of the same area, so differences in performance are definitely still possible.
Thanks for the info! While the article you linked is about a fix patch for Pro issues, that should mean that (messed up) support is in there already. I feel bad about the state of the VR info in my list; it's really difficult to find evidence of improvements. There are technical hurdles to analysis of PSVR that aren't present for standard games. I do want to apologize to VR owners about the meager info I've been able to present.
I've now updated the OP to compromise on this. While I won't add games with announced but unproven Pro support to the main lists, I will include them in the "need more evidence" shortlist in the OP. I changed the heading to make this clearer, as well as added a new FAQ entry with details.
Thanks, didn't go through the whole thread. Strange, as the blog explicitly mentioned it in the day 1 pro support list...
I'm going to go on record and say that a Pro patch for Battlefront is not coming out. I asked one of the DICE guys at PSX this past December and that's what he told me.
As explained already, no obvious enhancements are in place (though there could be some.more obscure ones, such as lessened framerate drops). Therefore, I don't want to put it in the main list, as explained in the FAQ.
"Will be" or "is"? I only post games to the thread once they're out (so for example, Gravity Rush 2 isn't here even though we pretty much know what it'll be like). Has the VR mode been patched already?
Yes, it's in the list. I couldn't find any resolution or graphical improvements, but the 0.2: Birth by Sleep - A Fragmentary Passage section is 60fps on Pro, where it's 30fps on standard. The other portions of the collection are already 60fps, so if Pro improves framerate on those it's much more marginal. (And I don't have the tools/abilities to discover that.)
Ok. Cool. Thanks
