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All PS4 Pro enhanced games (native support and boosted)
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Thanks, I'll add it to my thread.
PsihoPerihelion
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https://youtu.be/qa-XPM3ZR64
Native 2880x1620 on Pro, no Temporal Injection. This could easily render at 1800p CBR and beyond, but I respect what Sledgehammer is doing with resolution. It should be 1800p on the XBX or even a bit more than that.
Native 2880x1620 on Pro, no Temporal Injection. This could easily render at 1800p CBR and beyond, but I respect what Sledgehammer is doing with resolution. It should be 1800p on the XBX or even a bit more than that.
PLASTICA-MAN
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Any infos about Life is Strange: Before the Storm support for PS4 Pro? I bet no support at all since Sony isn't tight with mandating support for their new console while Microsoft is.
Not the same, do your HDR homework.
Not the same, do your HDR homework.
HDR is more than bit rate is greater than 8 bits.
Also, wider color gamut, and a much much larger color volume overall. also 'gamma' has been replaced with a different scale of absolute levels never previously used.
I don't think Microsoft is mandating it so much, but their system wide approach that will enhance all games will hopefully make the difference and maybe get Sony to implement a similar process.
Negotiator
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I've done my homework long time ago.
A wider color gamut requires more bits per channel...
Transistor
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Only visible on the HDR tv
Thanks!
BoxManLocke
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I mean it has the "PS4 Pro Enhanced" logo plastered next to it on the PS Store, at least in EU. So there's definitely something. Haven't played it yet though.
Liabe Brave
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I see no reason so far to believe that support levels will be very different. Microsoft has fewer games announced with One X support for 2017 than Sony did for 2016.
The Pro already does this. The enhancement per game may not be as much since One X is more powerful, but Sony's approach is just as universal.
This actually isn't a guarantee. The tag has been present on two games without support. This is a very small proportion, but it's not impossible.
Phreakuency
Banned
Incorrect.
HDR is not supported in screenshots.
https://support.us.playstation.com/...icle/Take-and-Share-PlayStation-4-Screenshots
The fact that your tv doesn't change into hdr mode is another way to confirm.
Speaking of, does PS4 Pro have any kind of automatic anisotropic filtering boost for non-patched games? That and, I'm sure this has been asked a stupid amount of times, but do patched games automatically downsample on 1080p screens?
Liabe Brave
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Great, thanks! Where did you get this info? If you're the source, can you post comparison screenshots or video? Thanks a lot!
Pro does not provide either of these things automatically. Downsampling occurs in the large majority of higher-res games, but it's not universal. (Note that this isn't always a bad thing; some enhanced games are arguably better without downsampling due to what else they offer.) Improved AF does happen, but only when the dev patches the game--though see below.
For unpatched games, Pro only improves things that were allowed to change freely in the game to begin with. So most games have better framerates, and titles with dynamic resolution run at higher sizes. Rarely, other graphical effects were variable depending on load, and Pro improves them too, even if unpatched. So motion blur is better in Driveclub, AF seems to improve in Syberia 3, and texture loading is faster in several titles. (Loading times in general are shorter for all games, even unpatched, but I assume you were asking about graphical changes.)
No but I wish it does; even 8xaf is good enough. Pro does have increased bandwidth than the ps4, since effects and resolution are untouch the extra bandwidth plus delta color compression should allow it to do that.
I have some ideas already, but I'm getting a Pro next week and wondering what games folks suggest for testing it out. Essentially, what are some of the best, biggest, and most noticeable/impressive upgrades? I have a 4K/HDR set (TCL P605), so everything is on the table.
Cheers!
Cheers!
ScaryShark
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yet_another_alt
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Naughty Dog games, easily. Second Son and First Light too. Neon powers are absolutely stunning.
Infamous Second Son and First Light are THE demo games for HDR. Your eyes will melt.
pretty done
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eh, I just wish they made it strong enough to run all games in at least 4K 30. Sub-native games stick out like a sore thumb since I sit pretty close to the tv
Thanks, y'all! Keep 'em coming.
I've never touched Second Son or First Light, but they're both sitting in my library, so maybe now would be a good time to give them a try. Just finished The Lost Legacy, but playing through a couple chapters again is definitely high on the list.
I've never touched Second Son or First Light, but they're both sitting in my library, so maybe now would be a good time to give them a try. Just finished The Lost Legacy, but playing through a couple chapters again is definitely high on the list.
OfTheOverflow
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Thank God Naughty Dog can't cripple it out of spite ala TLOU lol. Would love to see HDR and some AA for it.
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Kenzodielocke
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I wonder how SotC will look with HDR. TLG doesn't have HDR, right?
Backfoggen
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It does.
I'm still astounded to this day that every first-party PS4 game doesn't have Pro support.
Where's Killzone Shadowfall? Tearaway Unfolded? Nathan Drake Collection?
Mr Moose
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lifetimeofnot
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A lot of people are saying the infamous games but imo they look way too dark on the tv your getting. I would recommend horizon, the witness and resident evil 7. Resogun looks great too. I own this tvvanf those were the games that impressed me the most.
They are dark in general, but the whole point of HDR is that, even if it's dark, you can still see everything clearly. That was the biggest difference switching to HDR on several games once I got a HDR TV... detail that had previously been nothing but crushed blacks before was now perfectly visible, even though it didn't actually get any brighter.
HDR isn't about "brightest brights" or "darkest blacks"... don't listen to the marketing bullshit, it's aimed at people that don't know how video works. HDR is about the range of brightness between pure black and pure white. Movies actually demonstrate the difference far more than games do, IMO.
Toe-Knee
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pretty done
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Bloodborne, Until Dawn, GoW3, Driveclub, Beyond/Heavy Rain remaster, etc
It's pretty sad they didn't patch all of their games for their own hardware.
Says a lot to third parties that the maker of the hardware can't be bothered to patch all their own software for it.
Iced_Eagle
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A friend gave me girlfriend a copy of Kingdom Hearts 1.5[...] since they were done with it. I have to say, it is awesomely smooth on the PS4 Pro. The last time my girlfriend played it was on the PS3, so the jump in resolution and framerate was very noticeable. Glad they supported the Pro with this!
I hope KH3 supports HDR + 60fps as well, because I doubt my girlfriend could go back to 30, and HDR would be amazing in some of the scenes I've seen. Unlikely to be 4k native, but as long as it uses checkerboard rendering, I think it would be amazing.
I hope KH3 supports HDR + 60fps as well, because I doubt my girlfriend could go back to 30, and HDR would be amazing in some of the scenes I've seen. Unlikely to be 4k native, but as long as it uses checkerboard rendering, I think it would be amazing.
They're just studios who have exclusive contracts with Sony, they're not owned by Sony. There's many games who have gone well past their peak sales, so it's probably hard to justify dedicating resources to patching them over working on new projects that they probably have tight deadlines on.
Rellik
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Yeah it's pretty easy to sort out on these games if it's too dim. Cranking the colour setting up helps it pop a bit more in Hdr.
Mass Effect Andromeda may be the best example of HDR use that I could recommend. Blows me away on my Samsung KS9000. Plus a free trial available.
pretty done
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If they really made it that much work to "patch" for the Pro then that's just another fuckup from Sony.
Thats a Greay Area
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Interested in seeing/hearing your analysis once the title is out. It definitely looks like there is something different with the resolution construction in that game.
That makes no sense. Why would it be down to Sony how much work it takes?
Sony make the dev kits