Beetleking11
Banned
Wii u still doomed.
I was referring to the recent price movement. But sure, you're right it was 250 for a period in April.Go have your eyes checked, blindy.
Go have your eyes checked, blindy.
As as aside, the increase in sales rank currently shows as 108% on Amazon UK, not 875%.
Analysts are people like you and me. They have current data sales at their disposal, and previous sales patterns (which by the way show everything is possible in this industry). It's not only extremely zoomed in, it's also looking at the past.
You are the lost cause if you stop doubting. Humility is key in this industry, where anything can happen. It's an open game. It's all about the games. Their quality, their roadmap, their marketing. All things we ignore.
As as aside, the increase in sales rank currently shows as 108% on Amazon UK, not 875%.
And more to the point, Earthbound Wii U is now in third place, up 2,283% in sales, even though nobody can actually preorder the thing (it's only got a "Sign up to be notified when this item becomes available." button on the page).
Come off it, it's pretty obvious that the sales 'boost' came when it dropped £70 in two days. It was 250, yeah, way before the Xbox reveal.
As as aside, the increase in sales rank currently shows as 108% on Amazon UK, not 875%.
You're not wrong. The update has managed to make most things feel slower. When I first boot into the home menu and press a game or app icon the moment they show, it'll take 10 seconds before bit shows the splash screen. Until then the system just sits unresponsive
All you will find of such in my post history is answers to you, saying I'm no lunatic predicting a Wii U rebound - based on my track records of being right against posters like you calling me a lunatic.Don't make me trawl your post history for humility marc^o^. You do not want that
And yes "anything can happen", in the same way a meteor can suddenly hit my apartment and you'll never have to deal with me ruffling red brand feathers again. What we take on board is the statistical likelyhood of that happening, which is calculated through all things such as the history of meteor showers in my neighbourhood. It isn't some free open book of you can say anything and it has just as much weight as the well researched and plotted viewpoints. Thats how we get ourselves creationist museums.
How do you know it did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING? Do we have the sales ranking data from that period?Exactly... the pricedrop that was only £20 more expensive than it is now DID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING before the XBone reveal. Thanks for proving my point.
And the sales rank "only" shows 108% now? Hmm. You understand that that is 108% better than the last position... which was 875% better than before. Right?
Come off it, it's pretty obvious that the sales 'boost' came when it dropped £70 in two days. It was 250, yeah, way before the Xbox reveal.
As as aside, the increase in sales rank currently shows as 108% on Amazon UK, not 875%.
And more to the point, Earthbound Wii U is now in third place, up 2,283% in sales, even though nobody can actually preorder the thing (it's only got a "Sign up to be notified when this item becomes available." button on the page).
They did absolutely nothing? Can you verify that claim in any way.Exactly... the pricedrop that was only £20 more expensive than it is now DID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING before the XBone reveal. Thanks for proving my point.
And the sales rank "only" shows 108% now? Hmm. You understand that that is 108% better than the last position... which was 875% better than before. Right?
I noticed that too. Does anyone know what these 'sales rankings' actually mean?
It was available for pre-order three hours ago when I checked, now is no longer. Probably they realised the mistake.
All you will find of such in my post history is answers to you, saying I'm no lunatic predicting a Wii U rebound - based on my track records of being right against posters like you calling me a lunatic.
What "we take on this board" you say?
Well you're not the board. I'm trying to teach you humility, is it a lost cause?
It now says 129%, yet the 'Sales rank' is still 47, same as it was when it said 108%.
Shall we expect Wii U sales to be significantly bolstered in May NPD or these coming weeks' Media Create charts too?
Now is 160% and Sales rank is 40.
Obviously another person bought it in the last hour. (Joke to make the Wii U mourners happy)
I have no problem being wrong. If I have made such statement, I retract it. As it was wrong and I was wrong to make it, and I've already made statement to the contrary.Again, why are you adding additional hyperbolic qualifiers?
So you can wiggle out of being wrong?
Who here has stated there will be "significant" increases?
I would expect there to be an increase in the NPD now that all of the competition has laid out functionality. I am making zero claims about the magnitude of that change.
You are the one stating that the xbone reveal has no impact whatsoever on wiiu demand, so logically you are asserting that there will be no additional sales whatsoever this month over last, yes?
Why are some people in here upset at the idea that the Wii U possibly got a sales bump?
I have no method per se. It's merely a feeling. I believe Wii U will soon have system sellers, franchises people usually buy by millions. I believe in the product, I think its abyssal sales have everything to do with price, delays and poor launch execution, these last things I didn't expect. I believe Nintendo is about to change that with price reduction, an ironed OS and better marketing promoting their system sellers.You predicted Wii was going to be big against people that couldn't see the writing on the wall.
You predicted WiiU was going to be big and was wrong.
It turns out your "method" isn't very good and is perhaps being affected by something.
As for who here is stating significant increases, anyone who is implying it is the primary reason for this positional movement would be indicating they believe it to be a significant factor. If you don't believe it's the primary reason and or accept that price is likely the primary reason for movement, then I don't know what you take issue with.
I would expect there to be an increase in the NPD now that all of the competition has laid out functionality. I am making zero claims about the magnitude of that change.
Why are some people in here upset at the idea that the Wii U possibly got a sales bump?
Why are some people in here upset at the idea that the Wii U possibly got a sales bump?
The thread is about an increase in the Wii U's Amazon.co.uk charting movement. That is the "significant number" in question, the sales metric in question, that has changed significantly.You do get that a significant factor (motivation) is not the same as a significant number (quantity) right?
It's the same word, but it is used in different contexts.
10 million people might find details of the xbone a significant factor to be more disposed towards a wiiu and still not be motivated enough to buy one.
Is anyone here actually saying a significant number of people are buying a wiiu?
Precisely. If there's some sort of visible movement beyond this site, that shows a wider effect in play, or if some sustained effect, then I'd personally by all means be willing to eat my delicious crow and accept that some wider effect was in play beyond this being the result of the price cut. But as yet, no one has presented anything towards corroborating that.If other indicators paint a similar picture over anything even vaguely resembling a sustained period, I think many of the people here rejecting that this represents some sort of gain in momentum would probably change their view.
The thread is about an increase in the Wii U's Amazon.co.uk charting movement. That is the "significant number" in question, the sales metric in question, that has changed significantly.
And yes, people are attributing that movement to the X1 reveal and resultant change in available information.
When a far more obvious explanation and primary reason is available.
Since, I'm not sure if you've actually stated as such: Do you think that the primary reason for this positional movement on Amazon.co.uk is the X1 reveal, rather than the 70 pound price cut it received?
Precisely. If there's some sort of visible movement beyond this site, that shows a wider effect in play, or if some sustained effect, then I'd personally by all means be willing to eat my delicious crow and accept that some wider effect was in play beyond this being the result of the price cut. But as yet, no one has presented anything towards corroborating that.
Since, I'm not sure if you've actually stated as such: Do you think that the primary reason for this positional movement on Amazon.co.uk is the X1 reveal, rather than the 70 pound price cut it received?
Its a £20 price cut over the price it was at a month ago.
It's a £70 price cut over the price it was at the day before the Xbox reveal.
Secretly it's just people being hyped to buy Super Metroid for 30 cents
I don't find it that plausible that there are that many people who were only holding out for a price change of greater than £50, and whose consumer habits are entirely loyal to Amazon to the extent that they skipped over eevry other better price cut at Zavvi / HMV / Asda until now.
I don't find it that plausible that there are that many people who were only holding out for a price change of greater than £50, and whose consumer habits are entirely loyal to Amazon to the extent that they skipped over eevry other better price cut at Zavvi / HMV / Asda until now.
I don't find it that plausible that there are that many people who were only holding out for a price change of greater than £50, and whose consumer habits are entirely loyal to Amazon to the extent that they skipped over eevry other better price cut at Zavvi / HMV / Asda until now.
Why are some people in here upset at the idea that the Wii U possibly got a sales bump?
You seriously, honestly believe that there are any considerable number of people who just wanted a Wii U but were holding out for news from Microsoft first? It isn't even as if the sales went up that much, it still didn't even break the top 40 in sales for the site even after the fire sale.
But yeah, a sales spike from a major price drop is way less likely of an explanation.
it's really a mystery, I mean, Gaf's been so kind to Nintendo as of late
Damn, Wii U basic pack is 249,95€ on one Finnish online store. That's the price I was waiting for, but for the premium pack, but it's still very tempting. Should I go for it? What are the real advantages of the premium pack when I'm not going to download retail games from the store, but I'm going to buy several WiiUWare games. I'm not really that interested in Nintendo Land, but basic has tiny storage capacity so I should buy an external HDD pretty soon. Damn, what to do...