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An Irrational Fear of a Black Invasion: China
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Damn Dredd...
Fear of an African invasion eh? *looks over at the growing presence of China(among other foreign powers) in Africa*
Weird how that irrational fear only works in one direction for the rest of the world.
The universal dog whistle, no matter where you go, being black is stigmatized.
Weird how that irrational fear only works in one direction for the rest of the world.
The universal dog whistle, no matter where you go, being black is stigmatized.
HisImperialMajesty
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Africa don't want Blasians either : (. https://qz.com/857156/uganda-is-worried-about-the-number-of-chinese-men-marrying-their-women/
Still happening though.
https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...locals-face-puzzled-reception-at-home/240662/
http://www.scmp.com/magazines/post-...marriages-boom-guangzhou-will-it-be-til-death
What the fuck is this guy talking about?
For real. Just like that fiiine Brazilian/Japanese model The world needs this, China.
I am specifically talking about the mineral extraction and paying Africans to rip up their own homes with minuscule pay. It's colonization through contract and not allowing others to bid on resources or the people to be paid for their labor or said resources. This isn't just Africa either. The Caribbean is getting the same sweeping treatment.
Bro, please, just stop.
HisImperialMajesty
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Are you blaming the state of Jamaica's economy on the presence of a small successful minority group? Sounds familiar...maybe like anti-Semitism in Europe. Ignorant scapegoaters will continue to scapegoat, I guess.
Of course China isn't in Africa out of "goodwill". It's called doing business and looking for opportunities. African economies have also grown and prospered in recent years largely because of Chinese driven commodity demand and China's infrastructure development in the continent. Yes, Africa will depend in part on the Chinese economy, but China will also depend on Africa...because that's called trade? Or would you rather the Chinese leave, and African states have no other choice but to depend on the sole Western model of developmental "aid" that got the continent nowhere since colonialization?
Gordon Shumway
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Imperial on that "they do it too" trip..lol.
FIREKNIGHT2029
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Why am I not surprised by this? Maybe it's because I lived in Japan as a kid and experienced racism for the first time there. I know China and Japan countries are different but they still share a lot of similarities with their extremely homogenous cultures. I was one of the very few black kids in my international school in Yokohama and the racism was quite blatant.
I haven't even experienced a fraction of it here in the US. In fact, come to think of it, I've never experienced blatant racism here in the US. The only times I've experienced blatant open racism was when I lived in Japan. It's a beautiful country with an amazing culture but racism is a serious problem. I'm sure China has very similar issues.
I haven't even experienced a fraction of it here in the US. In fact, come to think of it, I've never experienced blatant racism here in the US. The only times I've experienced blatant open racism was when I lived in Japan. It's a beautiful country with an amazing culture but racism is a serious problem. I'm sure China has very similar issues.
MikeHattsu
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Korean residents aren't given a pass in Japan:
http://www.newsweek.com/one-three-foreigners-experience-racism-japan-577076
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/asiatoday/is-there-a-solution-for-j_b_12897450.html
HisImperialMajesty
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Please provide links? And yes, I do agree that the Chinese involvement in mining is tragic, especially for farmers (many who don't own the land they farm on due to tribal laws where it belongs to the Chief or alternately it belonging to the state). I actually have done research in medical school on the health effects of galamsey in Ghana, and it definitely is terrible. However, it is also important to note that Western owned multinational mining companies have been a presence in Africa for a much longer time, and in a much larger scale, but the focus has been on the Chinese because of newness of their presence.
I wouldn't say that the Chinese don't allow others to bid on African resources. African countries choose Chinese companies because they undercut the competition in terms of prices...the Chinese government state is often subsidizing Chinese construction companies.
No? Because it's not wrong to want to provide links and articles showing the complete picture, instead of allowing NeoGAF to continue it's xenophobic/ignorant behavior of dogpiling on China about how evil it is? Or every Asian racism thread about how racist Asians are?
I know, whatboutism, right? Or maybe...what I'm just trying to say is that when you have two very different groups of people interacting for the first time, like Chinese and Africans, you're going to have misunderstandings from both sides? And that, maybe, the China-Africa connection isn't just reproducing a colonizer-colonized relationship, but could instead be something new and unique that could benefit both parties?
Blackpanther25
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Africans can tell the difference between many different ethnic African groups (I know I can for some), but I have mistaken my African American friends for being African in the past. So I tend to stay away from labeling people as African or African American before I know them.
It's crazy in African they think I'm African American in America they think I'm African because of my name. It's all about perception.
IdreamofHIME
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Scared of African people stealing from them.
But currently building a high speed railway through South-East Asia and India then into Africa so they can exploit the cheap labour and their natural resources even faster than they already are.
Oh China.
But currently building a high speed railway through South-East Asia and India then into Africa so they can exploit the cheap labour and their natural resources even faster than they already are.
Oh China.
You act like people require a point.
Just catch a fucking break anywhere on this earth. Funny how China has no problem taking over Africa, but the moment a few black people start showing up in one of their cities people start acting like it's a zombie outbreak. Just another place to add to the do not travel to list, huh.
It's truly tiring.
ask the Jews
fluffydelusions
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Sadly I am not surprised. China as a country can be very openly racist. This chinese Laundry detergent commercial proves it.
HisImperialMajesty
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People fear what they don't know. Before I traveled to Africa for the first time, I was pretty damn scared because all I knew about Africa was starvation and poverty in the media. I had heard about violence and crime against Chinese businesses, so I was worried about how I would be treated over there. When I actually went to Ghana, I fell in love with the country because of how friendly the people were, how amazing the food was (best tilapia around!) and how vibrant the culture was (Azonto dance music, anyone?).
Honestly, the only way to keep breaking down these barriers is to, well, break them. Don't let the presence of a dumb Guangdong politician playing up fears and internet trolls in China dissuade you from visiting. You'll find most of the people there are friendly, and if you're friendly back, they'll have a good impression of black people. You might be the first black person they ever meet!
The Jews "committed" "deicide"
The problem in Africa isn't the intent of the Chinese. Their goals are transactional and profit oriented first, sphere of influence second. It's not racially motivated colonization.
The ultimate issue is the insanely corrupt ' governments' of the nations are not acting with some grand nation building plan. They're virtually all dictators that have exceeded term limits or taken power through military coups and only keep power through maintaining the loyalty of their ' generals'.
Now we can certainly criticize the Chinese investments by saying "well if they know these people are being exploited, they shouldn't be doing business" but you'd be expecting a level of ethical concern far beyond virtually any international business operator. It's easy enough to say I personally wouldn't do it though!
The 'west' certainly isn't coming to help them in good faith. It's a pretty shit position to be in, especially in a world shifting so rapidly as is.
The ultimate issue is the insanely corrupt ' governments' of the nations are not acting with some grand nation building plan. They're virtually all dictators that have exceeded term limits or taken power through military coups and only keep power through maintaining the loyalty of their ' generals'.
Now we can certainly criticize the Chinese investments by saying "well if they know these people are being exploited, they shouldn't be doing business" but you'd be expecting a level of ethical concern far beyond virtually any international business operator. It's easy enough to say I personally wouldn't do it though!
The 'west' certainly isn't coming to help them in good faith. It's a pretty shit position to be in, especially in a world shifting so rapidly as is.
dr3upmushroom
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Ughhhhh. You fo'real?
Shadowhelper
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All these posts about the media, hip hop or NBA.
I think that's the problem.
How about we just treat people as individuals instead of stereotyping them into groups? Black people are rappers, basketball stars, and also scientists and writers. If people just stop that type of stereotypical thinking, they will see how similar we all really are.
FallingEdge
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DontBeThatGuy
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It seems to always come back to insecure men and the women they want to control.
Spoiled Milk
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Mass_Pincup
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Yet they're the first to fuck over African countries.
Truly shameless.
Truly shameless.
Represent.
Represent(ative) of bad opinions
Don't take offense, no harm was meant. By "they" I meant the politician and those that agreed with him. Should have clarified that.
Mr. Giggles
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Sadly I am not surprised. China as a country can be very openly racist. This chinese Laundry detergent commercial proves it.
What the fuck.
Yeah this will be a fear for a long time lol
CannonFodder52
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Sadly I am not surprised. China as a country can be very openly racist. This chinese Laundry detergent commercial proves it.
That's fucked
Grenouille
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As someone who lives in an area that recently had a spike in African migration, the description of immigrants in the OP sounds waaay off.
AcademicSaucer
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indeed
HisImperialMajesty
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I think Western media likes to play up only the negative experiences of Africans living in China, not the positive parts. The face that there are growing pains with a large community of 150,000 (!!) African migrants in Guangzhou is to be expected. For the most part, it's seems like a really positive story. Take a look at this video, for example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBMaEWsn54w&t=351s
The fearmongering politician is a piece of shit, as well as all the racist Chinese netizens. It's not a surprise that with a country as big as China, they have their own "alt-right" as well. Most people have no qualms with the immigrants, for the most part.
Stereotyping is human nature, unfortunately. It's part of our tribal DNA, because outsiders could mean different diseases or danger in ancient times. Only education and really living in a more multicultural society can scrub that out.
In some ways, what I loved about Ghana was that I found so many similarities in its culture to East Asian culture, it almost felt like traveling to Asia in some ways. The hustling nature of the street vendors. The way that people respected their elders, and gave them honorary titles. The communal nature of the villages. Even the language was tonal, which is something I didn't think existed outside of East Asia. It really heartened me to see that all human societies have so many similarities.
Seductivpancakes
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So basically we need a big orgy between blacks and Chinese to get all that hate out.
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