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Anti-Trump protest erupts in Albuquerque downtown, NM after Trump held an event
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I agree with you but Two wrongs and all that
jimbobsmells
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Yup totally. Bloody millenials grumble grumble
Surface of Me
I'm not an NPC. And neither are we.
Violence ans property destruction will never help your cause. SMH
M0nochromatic
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Poor horses. They aren't voting for Trump, so don't hurt them.
Carl2291
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Agreed.
This only strengthens his position. It's like these people never learn, just always resort to anger snd violence.
For the record, yes you can, it has been done before, and to varying degrees of success. In fact studies have been done before on just how effective violent action is at achieving its goals, and it showed that it was effective at least 26% of the time - more than 1 in 4. Just because it turns your stomach does not mean we get to rewrite history. Sometimes it works, sometimes it does not. The level of effectiveness depends on the context.
valkillmore
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They would have been much more impactfull if none of themy said a word and simply stood in solidarity w protest signs doing the work. At least that way the many photos taken would have written documentation of what exactly they're protesting against.
People need to be hit over the head with knowledge, not fucking rocks.
People need to be hit over the head with knowledge, not fucking rocks.
Haloid1177
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Wonder how many of these people actually turn up to vote for the election.
Assuming you read the OP and realized that no one got locked up, right?
Alligatorjandro
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America was built on protests.
That's not going to change anything to people who love the new normal that Trump has been creating
Will you be saying that when Trump loses to Clinton and all his nutbag supporters collectively lose their shit?
Alligatorjandro
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Who knows
Hip Hop
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pretty much.
The anti-Trump are acting more so than Trump supporters at the moment or whenever these things go down.
Wolfgunblood Garopa
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Maybe people could all just stay home and think real hard about how bad Trump is, maybe their collective thought will manifest itself in some useful way.
There is absolutely no reason to expect a complete lack of violence during a public demonstration opposing the rising influence of white nationalists in America in 2016. None.
Ridiculous.
Hip Hop
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Who's always disrupting these events?
do these things ever go down at a Bernie or Hillary rally?
The right people were protesting then
Kiraly
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Horses are immensely useful for crowd control. They are intimidating and give an officer a good view over the situation. Added bonus is they are probably trained to take a few hits.
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teruterubozu
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Yup, it's how conquistadores culled entire civilizations.
Audioboxer
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Yeah I understand why, but I will say anyone hitting a horse can drink a big cup of asshole from me. No tolerance for animal abuse.
As for this as much as I dislike Trump I myself would never protest via destruction so I cannot have any empathy for those that do. Just my way of thinking. Allow your voice to be heard and your vote to count but don't be a dick about it by destroying things.
Vade
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All of this just fuels Trump more and more, similar to the Washington Post trying to dig new dirt on Trump about his Exs and it blowing up in their faces.
You beat him by ignoring him and forcing him to roll far past the line of no return to get that media attention back. It is actually asinine to think acting in this manner will hurt Trump.
RustyNails
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Well, imagine if a white nationalist GOP frontrunner endorsed by KKK painted an entire group of people of which you're part of as rapists and criminals. Now imagine that guy coming to your town where there is a majority of your group's population. It's a tinderbox waiting to be lighted. And that's what happened last night. I would sure as hell protest, but I won't be engaging in violence. I can't speak for others, but I understand why they're getting emotional and carried away.
Trump supporters have no reason to get violent other than get into fisticuffs with individual protestors. It's not a 1:1 situation.
freeofgreed
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Every fucking time.
People need to realize that whenever you have a large scale protest there's always going to be that violent element. People are always going to take advantage of the situation to be scumbags. This has happened every time we've had a thread about protests.
What you guys need to understand is that the people doing the violence are a small minority and shouldn't reflect badly on the protesters at large who were mostly peaceful.
Has Bernie ever threatened to ban an entire group of people from entering the country?
Has Bernie ever claimed that Mexican immigrants are criminals and rapists?
Has Bernie ever selected a known white supremacist as one of his delegates?
Has Bernie ever feigned ignorance over whether or not he recognized someone as the former leader of a hate group?
This may be a shock to you but some people find this unprecedented behavior (for a presidential presumptive nominee) shocking.
Wolfgunblood Garopa
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Are you equating the two sides?
Lets try this: theoretical scenario, imagine one side is pro-rape, the other side is against rape. Rapists show up at your town to rally their cause, promoting rape. The people in your town that don't appreciate that shit show up and protest- it gets heated and some violence occurs. Of course violence occurs, they're demonstrating just how offensive the pro-rape people are- that message cannot be sent without some level of intensity, and violence naturally occurs. That's human nature. Now imagine anti-rape groups rallying in your town. The pro-rape people aren't showing up at that, they're just happy that they have a pro-rape celebrity on TV all of the time legitimizing their cause. There is nothing for them to gain by protesting the anti-rape rally, it makes no sense for them to do that.
To add neither Bernie or Hillary said they would put women in jail for abortions
Threaten to torture and kill the families of terrorists.
gutter_trash
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no matter how shitty Trump's words are, never raise your hand to strike anyone.
Fight words with words. Fight signs with signs
but never ever use violence
WTF is this shit about throwing rocks while covering your mouth with a headscarf? what is this Paleistine? GTFO of here.
Keep it civil
go and fuckin' vote in November
Fight words with words. Fight signs with signs
but never ever use violence
WTF is this shit about throwing rocks while covering your mouth with a headscarf? what is this Paleistine? GTFO of here.
Keep it civil
go and fuckin' vote in November
Testicular Sound Express
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Do you live in the USA? The prospect of a Trump presidency is most definitely real. There is so so much at stake, especially for many minorities.
I think they use them purely for the fact they're powerful. I think the idea is it's supposed to make people more afraid of the police and less likely to try anything, although it doesn't work.
Testicular Sound Express
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I can't help but eye roll at all the people saying, 'Keep it civil'. I don't agree with the vandalism but I'm happy people are actually fighting for something in this country for a fucking change. How often do we see countries around the world protesting and fighting for their rights, meanwhile, here in America we sit at home and complain on Facebook as our government fucks us over.
And the possibility of soldiers refusing to commit war crimes?
They wont refuse. Theyre not gonna refuse me. Believe me.
Salz01
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Yea rioting, causing destruction.... Something to be proud of. Okay.... 😒
Alligatorjandro
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Just use words to tell Trumps people they are bad.
Salz01
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I don't think you understand the meaning of 'Violent'.
Christopher
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Great post sums up exactly what I think...no ones destroying trumps property...throwing rocks and bottles at horses how the FUCK does that make sense...
America was built on a lot of things I hope we're not proud of.
I'm coming around to the idea that these protests boost Trump's support. If there's any merit to the theory that latent authoritarians become activated by perceived threats to order, we can probably bet on it. "Law and order" was once an effective campaign plank.
freeofgreed
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People keep saying this but provide no proof to back this up. These protests aren't going to make anyone who dislikes Trump vote for him, even if they do disagree with the protests. Also there's been plenty of violence at Trump rallys as well so anyone who likes order won't find Trump appealing in that regard either.
Sigh...
This has to be one of the top 3 most worthless maxims of all time.
gutter_trash
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As a Centrist person. Seeing shit like this makes me veer Right
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