So much truth in this post. Griss, you're definitely one of my favorite contributors on GAF.
Be real, you're just one Nintendo fanboy recognising another, right?
This smacks of elitism to me. People accuse the PC crowd of this but I see it in posts about Nintendo like this one as well.
The 3 things mentioned are sort of big deals. "3rd party support" = the rest of the development world on console.
Best games = subjective
Best OS = not true at all, by any measure I know of. You might like some aspects of the UI which is fine but it's slow as shit and the least modern of the 3.
BC = totally praiseworthy, sure.
Ads = I suppose, although PS4 seems limited to the Store or What's New
Off-TV play can be achieved with a Vita/PS4 combo, soon with Xbox streaming/PC combo, globally in the PS4 case, and asymmetric multi is nothing special nor admirably implemented on Wii U.
Sorry for the rant but sometimes I feel the poor fortunes of the Wii U have caused the die-hard fans, whose passion I actually like, to go into a defensive frenzy. The Wii U has big fucking problems. No use pretending that it doesn't. So does the Vita, I own one, I won't pretend it's any sort of success or boost it up where it doesn't belong. I like it fine but I know what it is.
Nah, I've been critical of Nintendo from day 1. I really, really love the Wii U but fully understand why it has failed. Frankly it deserved to fail in many ways.
And yes, 3rd party support is a big deal, but I've played more games I've enjoyed from Nintendo this gen than across every other platform combined. So even without 3rd party, the Wii U still has 'the best games'. Entirely subjective, but what can I do about that other than state my opinion.
As for the Wii U OS, I firmly believe it's the best. When the PS4 gets folders or becomes as good as the PS3's was, I might change my mind. It's certainly fast. But the Wii U OS is so user-friendly and organisation friendly and ultimately pretty that it wins.
I love my Vita but to claim that off-TV play using it and the PS4 is the same is just wrong - they're almost entirely different experiences. The Wii U gamepad is almost entirely lag free and is not missing any inputs.
I was so disgusted with the Wii U when it was announced and I first tried it that I waited for over a year for it to go sub-200 dollars, and bought a PS4 first. I'm not a blind supporter, it just so happens that I ended up thinking it's the best console by a distance.
That's a lot of important, critical ways.
It is. But the 3rd party software / 1st party software divide only matters in so much as you ask the question of 'how many great games can I play on this system' and even without much 3rd party software the Wii U still wins in my book.
The horsepower matters less than it did in the Wii era as we're now getting beautiful HD games, some of which like Mario Kart 8 stack up visually to anything on any console unless you're pixel-peeping. Yes, it probably couldn't handle GTA V, and that's an issue. But it does deliver HD goodness.
It's the account services thing that I find to be the biggest flaw. I can't accept Nintendo's practices in this area at all, and don't understand people who defend them on it.
Best Games: Depends on the taste of the person.
Best OS: No, not even. It's super clunky and is made for a blind person and the need to use the gamepad to really do anything when setting up anything is annoying.
I have seen pushed ads to the gamepad while the system is in standby. Most recent one I have seen was for Kirby. Freaked me out when I saw the gamepad light up on its own.
While there may not be preorder DLC I can think of it does have quirky DLC dealing with the Amiibos.... which some end up going for $40+ due to limited production/Scalpers
Disagree on the OS, but agree that pushing ads to the gamepad isn't really cool. I've yet to see that, though. Amiibo DLC in games has been very restrained, there hasn't been a single thing I really felt I was missing out on as someone who doesn't buy toys.
I will accept that Nintendo is moving towards modern pricing structures and DLC practices that I dislike, but we've seen little of it on the Wii U itself.